
It's Real and It's Dangerous
From Cheap Talk by Jeff Kaplow and Marcus Holmes
April 18, 2026 · 1h 4m · Season 6 · Episode 24
About this episode
The episode discusses various aspects of digital diplomacy, the Iran war, and the implications of advanced AI technologies.
Excitement in the world of digital diplomacy; face-to-face diplomacy to end the Iran war; blockading Iran as a plan B and its prospects for success; Anthropic’s Mythos and AI that is too dangerous to release; the offense-defense balance in cyberspace; building AI for the public good; more capable models are more dangerous, even if they are well aligned; and Marcus can’t be bothered The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary. Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted. Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop . Further Viewing/Reading: Marine Traffic website Anthropic. 2026. System Card: Claude Mythos Preview. See all Cheap Talk episodes
People in this episode
Hosts: Marcus Holmes, Jeff Kaplow
Topics covered
- digital diplomacy
- Iran war
- AI safety
- cyberspace
- public good
- offense-defense balance
Keywords
- digital diplomacy
- Iran
- AI
- Anthropic
- cyberspace
- public good
- offense-defense balance
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: William & Mary, Anthropic
Books & works: Claude Mythos Preview
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