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| 5/2/26 | Stephen Owen Obituary | I am sad to report that Stephen Owen, a professor at Harvard University who wrote about Chinese poetry, just passed away at the age of 79 in Massachusetts. This short podcast talks a bit about one of the giants of the field. | — | ||||||
| 5/1/26 | Li Wai-yee and the Confucius Chronicles | In this podcast, I got the chance to do a face-to-face interview with Professor Li Wai-yee, a Harvard scholar who is one of the most prolific scholars of Chinese literature. During our interview, we discussed her new book, The Confucius Chronicles, just released by Columbia University Press, along with the massive role that Confucius has played in Chinese history. | — | ||||||
| 4/9/26 | Kublai Khan, Morris Rossabi and the 10th Anniversary of the Podcast | First off, I am dropping the podcast on the 10th Anniversary of our first episode. On April 9th, 2016, the Chinese Literature Podcast had its first episodes. The first episode of the podcast's next decade is Morris Rossabi, the scholar who made the world rethink Kublai Khan and the Mongols. He wrote the first good English-language biography of the world-changing figure. We talk about Genghis, Kublai (Genghis' grandson) and the effect they had on China. | — | ||||||
| 3/10/26 | Du Fu - Spring Gazes - Tang Poetry Masters Series | Today, we finish up the 3 part series on Tang Poetry Masters with a look at Du Fu, China's poet historian. The An Lushan Rebellion tore the Tang Dynasty in half and is one of the defining events of Chinese history. Du Fu is pivotal for our memory of that event, as his poems are often how the war is discussed, even today. In today's podcast, we look at two-ish poems that Du Fu wrote about the An Lushan Rebellion and try to better understand Du Fu's life. | — | ||||||
| 2/7/26 | Wang Wei and his Moment of Zen - Tang Poetry Masters Series | Today, the podcast gets to Wang Wei and a Buddhist poem he wrote with the eye of a painter. Wang Wei is the least popular of the three High Tang poets, at least, since the Song Dynasty, but, back in the day, he was the most popular, more popular than Li Bai and Du Fu. We'll travel to his empty mountain and see if we aren't too disturbed by women doing the laundry to learn a bit about Chinese poetry. Living in the Mountains on the Cusp of Fall Empty mountain after a new rain, The air is late, fall is coming The bright moon shines amid the pines, the clear stream's water flows over a rock. Hubbub in the bamboo, the washing lady returning the fishing boat pushing through lotuses. And then it happens that the flowers of spring die, Me, a hermit, I can hang here for a while. 山居秋暝 空山新雨後,天氣晚來秋。 明月松間照,清泉石上流。 竹喧歸浣女,蓮動下漁舟。 隨意春芳歇,王孫自可留。 | — | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | Li Bai and the Western Regions | Today is the beginning of a three part series I am going to do on the three big Tang poets, Li Bai, Wang Wei and Du Fu. In this episode, we take a look at Li Bai, often considered China's Greatest poet, and his relationship with the regions to China's West, modern day Xinjiang and the Stans. Li Bai has a strange relationship with the West; in fact, he was probably born in modern-day Kyrgyzstan, and was probably Persian, Turkic or maybe even Jewish. That's right, China's greatest poet may not have even been Chinese. Take a listen to the podcast to find out more. | — | ||||||
| 12/1/25 | Interview with Susan Wan Dolling - Translator of Chinese Poetry | Today, Lee gets to chat with Susan Wan Dolling, Hong-Kong-American poet, novelist and translator. She recently published her latest book of Song poetry translations, What the Cuckoo Said, but she has long been working on translating Chinese poetry into an English that does what is hard to do, that preserves the music that you hear in the Chinese original. If you want to check out more of her translations, check out Hundred Tongues (volume 1 of her Song poetry translations), Superstars (volume 1 of her My China in Tang Poetry series), Floating on Clouds (volume 2 of her My China in Tang Poetry series) and Friends and Lovers (volume 3 of her My China in Tang Poetry series). Also, my book, China's Backstory: The History Beijing Doesn't Want You to Read is out! You can purchase a copy of it here from my publisher: https://unsungvoicesbooks.square.site/product/china-s-backstory-the-history-beijing-doesn-t-want-you-to-read-preorder/BXJSID5U6P4RVONS7V4HSZSH Or you can purchase it on Amazon here. If you are interested, check out the nice things smart people have said about the book here. | — | ||||||
| 10/10/25 | Return of the Rob | On this episode, I give a brief update on the book's status, which should be in your hands by mid-November. And also, Rob returns, joining the podcast from France to talk about what he has been up to and also to chat with Lee about the book. | — | ||||||
| 8/30/25 | Interview with Professor Emily Mokros - Peking Gazette | Today, I get to speak with Professor Emily Mokros about her fascinating book, The Peking Gazette in Late Imperial China - State News and Political Authority. The book is about a media outlet in the Qing Dynasty that published discussions that the emperor held with his bureaucrats. | — | ||||||
| 8/5/25 | Mao Zedong - Soaked Garden in Spring - Snow | This episode, the podcast takes a look at a poem Mao Zedong wrote in February 1936, after he and his party had undergone the near-death experience of the Long March. Yet still, Mao has the gumption to imply in the poem that he would be the greatest ruler China had ever seen. My Translation of the Poem: Spring in a Soaked Garden - Snow The north country scenery, frozen over for a thousand miles, snow floating for ten thousand miles. I look inside and outside the Great Wall of China, all that remains is boundlessness. Up and down the Yellow River, it has suddenly lost its surging vigor. The mountains dance like silver snakes, the plains gallop like white elephants, I want to compete with Heaven and see which of us is taller. I must wait for a clear day, and look at the snowy landscape wrapped in red and white, it's really bewitching. The rivers and mountains, this land, is so pretty, it has brought out countless heroes to compete and serve the nation. Pity Qin Shihuang, the first Chinese emperor, and Han Wudi, the greatest Han emperor, their writing ability ain't all that good. Tang Taizong, the greatest Tang emperor, and Song Taizu, the greatest Song emperor, they kinda lack style. Those northern barbarian rulers, like Genghis Khan, all they knew how to do was shoot arrows at big eagles. Those guys are all dead, if you want to count the true badasses look to today. Original Poem: 沁园春·雪 北国风光,千里冰封,万里雪飘。望长城内外,惟余莽莽;大河上下,顿失滔滔。山舞银蛇,原驰蜡象,欲与天公试比高。须晴日,看红装素裹,分外妖娆。 江山如此多娇,引无数英雄竞折腰。惜秦皇汉武,略输文采;唐宗宋祖,稍逊风骚。一代天骄,成吉思汗,只识弯弓射大雕。俱往矣,数风流人物,还看今朝。 | — | ||||||
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| 6/4/25 | Fox Butterfield Interview - First Post-1949 - New York Times Correspondent in China | This episode is a special one. The podcast has a conversation with Fox Butterfield, the first correspondent for the New York Times after 1949. Mr. Butterfield set up the Beijing Bureau for the New York Times in 1979 and was the bureau chief from 1979 to 1981. Mr. Butterfield started studying Chinese in 1958, and was a student of John Fairbank. In this episode, I got the priveldge of interviewing Mr. Butterfield at his home. We talked about his experience with John Fairbank, his friendship with Senators John McCain and Joe Biden, his work on the Pentagon Papers and many other topics. | — | ||||||
| 5/24/25 | Mo Yan - Explosions | In today's episode, we look at a work that tackles the controversial topics of aborition and the One-Child Policy. Today's story, by Nobel-Prize Laureate Mo Yan, watches a father/government official after his wife becomes pregnant with a son. Their first child, a daughter, is not good enough for the official's dad, he wants a son. But the official is tasked with enforcing the One-Child Policy, China's draconian rule that each family was only allowed to have one child. We watch as the official forces his wife to get an abortion while explosions happen all around them. | — | ||||||
| 4/26/25 | Hao Jingfang - Folding Beijing | "Folding Beijing" is one of the most talked-about science fiction stories to come out of China since Liu Cixin, Hao Jingfang's story is about a Beijing divided into three parts. First Space is for the rich, Second Space is for the middle class and Third Space is for the poor, who clean up after First and Second Space Beijing. The three spaces never exist simultaneously, but rather when First Space is open, Second and Third Space are folded up and put away. A man, struggling to put his daughter through school, agrees to take up an illegal job to smuggle a message from Second to First Space. This is a story that is fascinating because it is all about class, even though China has been run by the CCP for almost a century. Join the podcast as we get folded into Third Space and find ourselves in a new world. | — | ||||||
| 3/29/25 | The Greatest Fart Joke in Chinese History | Today, we are looking at a story involving Su Dongpo, who was the butt of the greatest fart joke in all of Chinese history. The story involves Su Dongpo, the Song Dynasty's greatest poet, and a Zen Buddhist named Buddha's Stamp. | — | ||||||
| 2/28/25 | More Swindles from the Late Ming - Sex, Scams and Sorcery - Interview with Bruce Rusk and Christopher Rea | Lock up your daughters and watch your wallet. In this episode, we are going to take a look at stories from the late Ming's most famous grift manual, a book by Zhang Yingyu. For this episode, the translators, Bruce Rusk and Christopher Rea have kindly agreed to come on talk about this text without stealing anything. I highly recommend this book to anyone looking to make counterfeit silver, run a gang of that blinds and amputates children or just to anyone looking for some damn good stories. Purchase the book here, at Columbia University Press. | — | ||||||
| 1/25/25 | Joel Bigman - A Very Jewish Journey to the West | Today, we have an interview Joel Bigman, the author of The Second Journey. The Second Journey is a continuation novel of Journey to the West (西遊記). In this journey to the West, Tang monk travels ever farther to the west, all the way to modern day Israel. Bigman has written his novel with some of the same characters that you know and love, Tang Monk, Monkey and Pigsy, but he also has some new characters like Bear (the Second Samson). This new team travels through the Holy Lands, encountering Jewish monsters and some other characters. If you are interested in buying his great novel, check out these book sellers: https://www.amazon.com/Second-Journey-Joel-Bigman/dp/9888843702 The Second Journey eBook by Joel Bigman - EPUB | Rakuten Kobo United States The Second Journey by Joel Bigman, Paperback | Barnes & Noble® | — | ||||||
| 12/28/24 | 2024 End of the Year Podcast | It is that time of year again, the time when the Chinese Literature Podcast takes stock of the year and what has happened. In this podcast, Lee talks about his book and also about teaching Chinese Literature at the University of Oregon. | — | ||||||
| 11/24/24 | Huang Chunming - Sayonara, Zaijian | Today, we have an exciting and disturbing episode about Taiwan and prostitution. This is Number 6 in my series on Taiwanese literature, and the second episode on Huang Chunming, Taiwan's most famous nativist author. Last episode, the podcast looked at the story, "Drowning of an Old Cat." This week we look at a story from that same English translation. "Sayonara, Zaijian" is a story about a Taiwanese man forced to pimp out his own countrywomen to the Japanese. It is fun, it is disturbing, it is triggering. In other words, it is a great work of literature. | — | ||||||
| 11/2/24 | Huang Chunming - The Drowning of an Old Cat | Today, we take a look at Huang Chunming, one of the most important writers in Taiwan's nativist movement. He is an author who developed this sense of a Taiwanese identity in his work. Also, don't worry, no cats die in this story. | — | ||||||
| 9/28/24 | Interview with Daniel Bell | Today, Lee is talking with Professor Daniel Bell, most recently the author of Dean of Shandong, but also the author of the famous China Model. Professor Bell and Lee chat about his book and about his wider experience of Chinese culture and philosophy while serving as the first foreign dean of a university in the PRC. | — | ||||||
| 8/31/24 | Edward Yang - Yi Yi or A One and a Two | Today, the podcast does something different. In this episode, we are looking at a film. And not just any film. It is perhaps the greatest film ever made. Yi Yi or A One and a Two is the magmum opus of Edward Yang, the Taiwanese filmmaker. We are going to explore the symbolism of balloons, sticks and condems in this amazing film. | — | ||||||
| 7/27/24 | Bai Xianyong - Winter Nights | The greatest of Taiwan's modernists, Bai Xianyong's short story, "Winter Nights," is a tale about history and how little we are able to change things. These revolutionaries of Beijing's hot summer of 1919 reconvene in Taipei in the 1960's having lost their cause and their country. Lee taught this story about protestors during the height of the pro-Palestinian protests in 2024, and he describes how his students reacted to the story. | — | ||||||
| 7/6/24 | Taiwanese Comfort Women | This episode is different. I am first explaining the issue of Taiwanese comfort women, and then letting yall hear a speech that I gave to a group in Vienna on the only comfort women museum in Taiwan. Stick around for some interesting history and a discussion of museums. | — | ||||||
| 6/22/24 | Yu Yonghe - Small Sea Travel Diary | This week's podcast is on one of the earliest documents we have in Taiwanese history, a 1697 journey by Yu Yonghe into the wilds of Taiwan's north, where he mined sulfur amongst the barbarians. Yu gets off on traveling, and this journey is deep into the heart of Taiwan. In this podcast, I discuss the history of Taiwan along with questions of race and racism in Chinese thought. | — | ||||||
| 6/8/24 | Ge Fei - The Invisibility Cloak | Love and amplifers is the topic of Ge Fei's novella "The Invisibility Cloak." Ge Fei uses a discussion of stereo systems to try to articulate changes in value system in China in the late 20th century. Turn up the volume for this exploration of one of contemporary China's most acclaimed novelists. | — | ||||||
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