
The Big Beautiful Debt Delusion | The Unpredictable Cost of Endless Borrowing
From Click Beta by Excess Returns
May 29, 2025 · 1h 7m · Season 1 · Episode 5
About this episode
The episode explores the complexities of U.S. fiscal policy and its implications for business and the economy.
n this episode of Click Beta, Dave Nadig, Matt Zeigler, and Jason Buck go deep on the messy realities of U.S. fiscal policy, the politics of taxation and spending, and what it really means to “get our fiscal house in order.” They dig into the latest tax bill, the implications for business owners and local economies, and the broader consequences for American hegemony and cost of capital. Along the way, they explore MMT, VATs, FX sentiment, AI's role in tax planning, and the surprising policy influence of farmers. It’s a candid, unscripted, and often hilarious look at the issues that actually matter.Main Topics Covered:Why the math of austerity doesn’t add upWhat a “fiscal house in order” really looks likeThe hidden consequences of the new tax billState vs. federal policy shiftsLabor, wage incentives, and restaurant economicsMMT, bond markets, and inflation dynamicsThe underrated power of FX as a policy gaugePrivate credit, pork spending, and political realitiesTax planning as the new alpha for advisorsExchange funds, 351 ETFs, and solving concentrated wealthThe commoditization of portfolios and rise of tax-focused RIAs
People in this episode
Hosts: Dave Nadig, Matt Zeigler, Jason Buck
Topics covered
- U.S. fiscal policy
- taxation and spending
- business implications
- MMT and inflation
- FX as a policy gauge
- tax planning strategies
Keywords
- fiscal policy
- tax bill
- business owners
- inflation dynamics
- FX sentiment
- tax planning
- private credit
- political realities
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: U.S. fiscal policy, MMT, VATs, AI, FX, farmers, private credit, pork spending, tax planning, exchange funds
More episodes of Click Beta
- “A Chaotic 30 Days” | What Happens When SpaceX Goes Public · June 6, 2026 · 56 min
- They Call It "Broadening." The Data Says It’s Just Two Stocks · April 21, 2026 · 1h 1m
- The Data You Trust Is Broken | What Aggregate Economic Numbers Hide · February 17, 2026 · 57 min
- Nothing Has a Right to Exist in Your Portfolio | What the Last 15 Years Has Taught Us · December 23, 2025 · 57 min
- The Bull Market Where Everyone Feels Broke | Behind the Rise of Financial Nihilism · November 17, 2025 · 54 min
- The Rate Cut Paradox: When Lower Rates Cool the Economy · October 5, 2025 · 55 min
Explore listener stats, chart rankings, contacts and more on the Click Beta podcast page.