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Public Lands and Access with Cody Fulk of the NCWRC
Jan 29, 2026
1h 06m 39s
Lone Duck's Bob Owens
Jan 14, 2026
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Prong Collar Vs Pinch Collar
Dec 8, 2025
32m 47s
Canoe Dog Diaries; Cornwallis' Treasure Along the Banks of Abbott's Creek
Oct 28, 2025
25m 43s
Training Insights with Nate Czarnota
Sep 30, 2025
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| 1/29/26 |  Public Lands and Access with Cody Fulk of the NCWRC | Cody Fulk is the Management Biologist for the souther piedmont region with the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission. He and I sit down to lament the potential (read immenent) loss of the west bank of Tuckertown Lake. Summary In this episode, Grayson Guyer discusses the significance of Tucker Town, a vital public land area in North Carolina, with Cody, a wildlife biologist. They explore the emotional connections to the land, the trends in public land access, and the challenges facing conservation efforts. The conversation highlights the historical context of the Yadkin River, the role of corporations in land management, and the ecological importance of Tucker Town. They emphasize the need for community involvement and advocacy to preserve this precious resource for future generations. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tucker Town and Its Importance 02:30 Public Land Access and Trends in Hunting 05:30 The Emotional Connection to Tucker Town 08:05 Historical Context of the Yadkin River and Tucker Town 11:04 The Role of Corporations in Land Management 13:41 Ecological Significance of Tucker Town 16:20 Challenges Facing Public Land and Conservation Efforts 18:57 Community Involvement and Advocacy for Tucker Town 22:12 The Future of Tucker Town and Public Access 24:46 Conclusion and Call to Action Save Tuckertown Donate to Three Rivers Land Trust: https://trlt.org/save-tuckertown/ Visit NCWRC: https://www.ncwildlife.gov/ Visit my website: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 06m 39s | ||||||
| 1/14/26 |  Lone Duck's Bob Owens | Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Remembrance 05:36 Training Insights with Pat Nolan 11:01 The Role of Reward-Based Training 16:29 Consequences in Training 22:06 Critique of Training Systems 27:01 Understanding Dog Training Attitudes 31:06 Navigating Pain and Uncomfortability in Training 32:56 The Art of Dog Training: Balancing Pressure and Praise 34:35 Learning and Growing as Trainers 37:19 The Value of DIY Training for Beginners 38:44 Consequences and Overcoming Adversity in Training 41:08 The Importance of Teaching Dogs to Handle Adversity 42:34 Resilience vs. Pain in Dog Training 44:25 Marketing and Misconceptions in Dog Training Methods 45:37 The Evolution of Dog Training Techniques 48:19 The Impact of Style and Precision in Training 51:00 Personality and Individuality in Dogs 54:14 Good Training: A Universal Standard 55:43 The Influence of Style in Dog Training 57:04 Learning from the Best: A Trainer's Journey 58:27 Evolving Training Methods and Personal Experiences 59:38 The Process of Training: Consistency vs. Competition 01:00:25 Casual Approaches to Puppy Development 01:01:19 The Importance of Natural Hunting Experience 01:02:45 The Joy of Hunting: Balancing Fun and Training 01:04:35 The Future of Training: Trials and Competitions 01:05:44 The Role of Standards in Dog Training 01:07:02 Comparing Historical and Modern Training Standards 01:08:09 The Need for Real-World Testing in Trials 01:12:14 Future Plans and Goals in Dog Training 01:18:42 Creating Accessible Training Resources 01:23:48 Finding Balance in Life and Training Summary In this episode of the Companion Gundog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer and guest Bob Owens delve into the nuances of dog training, particularly focusing on the debate between force fetch and fun fetch methods. They reflect on personal experiences, the importance of resilience in dogs, and the role of pressure and reward in training. The conversation emphasizes the significance of attitude in training, the necessity of consequences for inaction, and the value of adversity in developing a confident and adaptable dog. Throughout the discussion, they pay tribute to a friend and mentor, highlighting the emotional connections that underpin their passion for dog training. In this engaging conversation, Grayson Guyer and Bob Owens delve into the complexities of dog training, discussing resilience, training methods, and the evolution of techniques over time. They explore the importance of personality in dogs, the balance between training and enjoyment, and the future of dog training competitions. The discussion emphasizes the need for accessible training resources and the significance of maintaining standards in the field. Throughout, they share personal experiences and insights, making it clear that dog training is as much an art as it is a science. Visit Lone Duck: https://loneduckoutfitters.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooHN8aLhnQxw5LPU4XeK465060LR6C82XqnutsAkJurwFq9KjaW Visit Lost Highway: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/losthighwaykennels?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 27m 29s | ||||||
| 12/8/25 |  Prong Collar Vs Pinch Collar | Summary In this episode of the Companion Gun Dog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer discusses his approach to training a new lab, focusing on the importance of understanding different types of collars and their applications in dog training. He emphasizes the significance of context in training, the balance between control and freedom, and shares insights on dog food choices based on personal experiences. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Companion Gun Dogs 00:25 Starting a New Lab: The British Approach 01:40 Training Techniques for Multi-Purpose Dogs 02:55 Understanding Mechanical Advantage Collars 04:11 Introducing the Pinch Collar 08:00 Using the Prong Collar Effectively 21:13 Transitioning to Prong Collars 26:21 Dog Food Transition and Recommendations Visit my website: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Become a Patron: https://patreon.com/losthighwaykennels?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 32m 47s | ||||||
| 10/28/25 |  Canoe Dog Diaries; Cornwallis' Treasure Along the Banks of Abbott's Creek | Check out the article that inspired this podcast: https://fieldethos.com/sportsmans-ghost-story/ Summary In this episode of the Companion Gundog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer shares his experiences and reflections while paddling on Abbotts Creek. He discusses local history, particularly a story about General Cornwallis during the American Revolution, and how it connects to the area. Grayson also reflects on his personal connection to the land and the importance of community. He shares insights on utilizing companion gundogs for hunting and expresses gratitude to his supporters on Patreon. Chapters 00:00 Canoeing and Hunting Adventures 04:00 Ghost Stories and Local Lore 13:05 Reflections on Connection to Place Visit my website: https://losthighwaykennels.com Consider becoming a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/c/losthighwaykennels Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 25m 43s | ||||||
| 9/30/25 |  Training Insights with Nate Czarnota | Summary In this conversation, Nate Czarnota and Grayson Guyer explore various aspects of dog training, focusing on behavioral principles, the Keeler Method, and the importance of mentorship. They discuss the significance of building drive in dogs, the role of pressure in training, and the ethical considerations that trainers must navigate. The conversation emphasizes the need for pragmatism in training, the value of emotional conditioning, and the benefits of cross-pollination between different training techniques. In this conversation, Nate Czarnota and Grayson Guyer delve into the intricacies of dog training, focusing on the distinction between training methods and the intent behind them. They explore the importance of classical conditioning in shaping dog behavior and the emotional narratives that influence training outcomes. The discussion emphasizes the significance of perception in understanding dog behavior and the depth of the human-dog relationship, highlighting how mutual cooperation and understanding can enhance training effectiveness. Chapters 00:00 Behavioral Principles in Interpersonal Relationships 05:35 Introduction to Dog Training and Mentorship 11:07 Understanding the Keeler Method's Principles 13:46 Influences and Evolution in Dog Training 16:36 Cross-Pollination of Training Methods 19:33 Learning from Diverse Trainers 21:59 Concepts vs. Methods in Dog Training 33:34 Transitioning to Off-Leash Training 35:43 Cross-Pollination of Training Disciplines 37:43 The Pressure of Instant Gratification in Training 39:45 Building Drive and Incremental Progress 41:03 Understanding Drive vs. Behavioral Issues 43:38 The Importance of Emotional Bottoms in Training 47:47 Stress Inoculation and Drive Management 51:12 Classical vs. Operant Conditioning in Training 57:11 Pragmatism in Dog Training Ethics 01:05:07 Ethics in Dog Training 01:07:43 The Role of Testing and Standards 01:15:21 Classical Conditioning and Emotional Narrative 01:23:32 Cooperation and the Human-Dog Bond 01:32:03 Empathy in Dog Training 01:32:47 Genetic Considerations in Working Dogs 01:34:18 Building Resilience in Sporting Dogs 01:34:48 Understanding Emotional Elasticity in Dogs 01:35:38 The Balance of Sensitivity and Drive 01:37:03 Navigating Contradictory Traits in Breeds 01:38:16 The Importance of Conditioning in Training 01:40:02 Classical Conditioning and Drive Management 01:41:22 Creating Neutral States in Training 01:42:25 Perception and Reality in Dog Behavior 01:44:22 The Power of Positive Language in Training 01:46:51 Learning from Mistakes in Training 01:48:48 Adapting Training to Individual Dogs 01:50:14 The Role of Empathy in Training 01:51:23 Mutual Benefit in Dog-Human Relationships 01:53:16 The Depth of the Gun Dog Relationship Visit Nate's Website: https://www.ironoakdogs.com/ Visit Grayson's Website: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/losthighwaykennels?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 59m 11s | ||||||
| 8/5/25 |  The Method to Rule All Methods | Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Summer Training Overview 07:03 New Chapter 3 07:06 New Chapter 2 07:06 New Chapter 08:04 The Method to Rule Them All 21:47 Emulating and Playing in Dog Training 28:09 The Journey of Learning and Behavior Change 30:29 New Chapter 4 Summary In this episode of the Companion Gun Dog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer shares insights from his summer training sessions with various dogs, discusses the breeding journey of his dog Winnie, and delves into his philosophy on dog training. He emphasizes the importance of mastering foundational skills, the role of play in training, and the value of emulating successful methods. Grayson also reflects on the journey of learning and the significance of keeping training engaging and enjoyable for both the trainer and the dog. Visit my website: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Please consider becoming a Patron: https://patreon.com/losthighwaykennels?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 32m 51s | ||||||
| 7/2/25 |  Back to Basics | Summary In this episode of the Companion Gundog podcast, host Grayson Guyer reflects on his personal connection to a local reservoir, the importance of public land and conservation efforts, and his evolving philosophy on dog training. He discusses the balance between modern training methods and traditional techniques, emphasizing the value of simplicity and personal interaction with dogs. Grayson also shares insights on the role of technology in training and the need for a return to basics in a fast-paced world. Please consider joining my Patreon if you'd like to support this podcast: https://www.patreon.com/c/losthighwaykennels Visit my website: https://losthighwaykennels.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 45m 46s | ||||||
| 6/2/25 |  What Even is Retrieving? | keywords fishing, carp, dog training, retrieving, Patreon, social media, hunting, webinars, food-based training, force-fetch summary In this episode of the Companion Gundog podcast, host Grayson Guyer shares his experiences and challenges while site fishing for carp. He discusses the preparations he made, including launching a Patreon to support his podcast and share knowledge about dog training. Grayson delves into various retrieving techniques, the social aspects of dog training, and the effectiveness of food-based training systems. He emphasizes the importance of trial and error in training and concludes with a call to action for listeners to support his Patreon. takeaways Grayson shares his fishing experiences and challenges. He discusses the importance of preparation for fishing trips. Launching a Patreon allows him to share knowledge and cover costs. Retrieving techniques can vary and should be adapted to the dog. Social aspects of dog training are crucial for success. Food-based training systems can be effective for many dogs. Trial and error is a natural part of the training process. It's important to maintain a moral compass in training. Different training methods can coexist and be beneficial. Support from listeners helps sustain the podcast and its content. titles Fishing for Carp: A Journey of Patience Navigating the Waters of Dog Training Sound Bites "I have not done that in three years." "Retrieving is a big picture type of deal." "You should do whatever you want to do." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Carp Fishing and Podcasting Journey 04:12 Launching a Patreon and Sharing Knowledge 08:31 Holistic Approaches to Retrieving 14:12 Understanding Retrieving: Techniques and Perspectives 26:03 Training Systems: Food vs. Force-Fetch Techniques https://patreon.com/losthighwaykennels?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 38m 54s | ||||||
| 5/9/25 | Thoughts on Chase in Gundogs. Do we take it out of them? | Keywords dog training, chase management, predatory sequence, pointing dogs, retrievers, obedience training, summer retrieve camp, dog behavior, training techniques, hunting dogs Summary In this episode of the Companion Gundog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer discusses the concept of 'chase' in dog training, particularly in relation to pointing dogs and retrievers. He shares insights from his summer retrieve camp, emphasizing the importance of understanding chase as a part of the predatory sequence. Grayson explores how chase can be both a reinforcement and a management tool in training, detailing techniques for effectively incorporating chase into obedience and hunting scenarios. He concludes with reflections on the evolving nature of training methods and the significance of adaptability in dog training. Takeaways Chase is a significant aspect of the predatory sequence in dogs. Understanding chase can enhance training effectiveness. Chase can be both a reinforcement and a management tool. The act of releasing a dog can serve as a powerful reinforcer. Training should focus on building momentum and excitement. Chase management is crucial for maintaining a dog's attitude during training. Different dogs may require different approaches to chase management. The importance of adaptability in training methods is emphasized. Engaging with the dog’s natural instincts can improve training outcomes. The podcast aims to share insights and experiences in dog training. Titles The Dynamics of Chase in Dog Training Harnessing the Power of Chase in Retrievers Sound Bites "I want to talk about Chase." "I want you to want to run." "Thanks for being with us." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Training Camp 02:10 Understanding the Concept of Chase in Dog Training 08:09 The Role of Chase in the Predatory Sequence 14:02 Chase Management Techniques in Training 19:49 The Importance of Flexibility in Training Methods Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 31m 03s | ||||||
| 4/2/25 | Arousal vs Drive and the Making of a Canoe Dog | Keywords dog training, arousal, drive, bird dogs, canoe, dog behavior, training techniques, dog trainers, pet training, hunting dogs Summary In this episode of the Companion Gun Dog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer reflects on the loss of dog training mentor Mo Lindley, discussing his impact on the dog training community. The conversation then shifts to the concepts of arousal and drive in dog training, exploring their definitions, differences, and implications for training techniques. Grayson shares insights from various dog training experts, emphasizing the importance of understanding these concepts for effective training and behavior management in dogs. Takeaways Mo Lindley was a significant influence in dog training. Arousal and drive are often confused in dog training. High arousal can lead to unproductive behaviors in dogs. Drive is a productive state that motivates dogs. Understanding a dog's arousal can help in training. High drive dogs can be easier to train if managed well. Arousal is simply a state of being awake and alert. Expert opinions highlight the importance of drive in training. Training techniques can influence a dog's arousal levels. The podcast aims to educate listeners on effective dog training methods. Titles Navigating Arousal and Drive in Dog Training The Legacy of Mo Lindley in Dog Training Understanding Dog Behavior: Arousal vs. Drive Expert Insights on Dog Training Techniques Sound Bites "It's just a big loss." "Arousal is the state of awake or stimulated." "We can influence a dog's arousal." "High arousal is not productive." "Drive motivates the dog." "Light beer is arousal, whiskey is drive." "High drive is productive." "Thanks for listening." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Reflection on Loss 05:10 Arousal vs. Drive in Dog Training 18:00 Understanding Arousal and Drive Definitions 39:47 Insights from Experts on Arousal and Drive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 47m 57s | ||||||
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| 1/31/25 | "24-'25 Woodcock Season Recap and Future Plans | keywords hunting, woodcock, dog training, outdoor recreation, personal growth, webinars, wildlife, nature, hunting season, podcast summary In this episode of the Companion Gun Dog Podcast, host Grayson Guyer reflects on his recent hunting season, sharing insights on his experiences with Woodcock hunting, the growth of his dogs, and the importance of training with wild birds. He discusses the magic of the Woodcock, the challenges faced during the season, and his plans for future training and webinars. Grayson emphasizes the significance of living in the present and enjoying the outdoors, while also addressing the impact of weather on bird populations and the evolution of Woodcock hunting culture in the Southeast. takeaways Grayson reflects on the long stretch since his last podcast. He expresses gratitude for listeners who remained subscribed. The hunting season has been a time of personal growth. Woodcock hunting is both challenging and rewarding. Grayson enjoys the magic of hunting Woodcock. He emphasizes the importance of training dogs with wild birds. Future plans include webinars and online instruction. Weather impacts bird populations significantly. Grayson is interested in the history of Woodcock hunting in the Southeast. He appreciates the support from his listeners. titles Reflections on a Memorable Hunting Season The Art of Woodcock Hunting Sound Bites "Every day is the finish line" "We're not burning spots" "I really like the software" Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Season Reflection 02:54 Hunting Experiences and Personal Growth 06:08 The Magic of Woodcock Hunting 09:00 Training Dogs and Future Plans 11:51 Wild Birds vs. Preserve Birds 18:02 Weather Impact on Hunting and Bird Populations 30:11 Conclusion and Future Content Plans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 34m 05s | ||||||
| 10/11/24 | "Perceived Pressure" and Resilience | Emily and Grayson sit parse out the ever confusing concept of perceived pressure. They also discuss resilience and its importance in gundog training. Visit our sponsors: https://uglydoghunting.com/ https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 20m 53s | ||||||
| 9/27/24 | Goodbye Ella | Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 40m 31s | ||||||
| 9/13/24 | A Conversation with Jim McCafferty: Author of Bird Dog Man | Grayson speaks with writer, James T. McCafferty about his new book, Bird Dog Man, The Story of W.W. Titus, Father of the National Bird Championshipo Field Trials Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 32m 33s | ||||||
| 8/28/24 | The Non-Training Gundog Culture With Cap'n Stump and Connell | Musings on wasted effort, wasted talent, and wasted youth from Cap'n Stump's porch. We talked about old timers and old meat dogs, and a simpler way of thinking about gundog training. Visit our sponsor: https://uglydoghunting.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 30m 56s | ||||||
| 7/25/24 | The Art of Dog Training With Francis Metcalf (Canine Circus School) | Grayson chats with on of his earliest dog training influences. Francis Metcalf is a man of diverse interests. A ringsport OG, pet trainer, trick training enthusiast, and artist, he has helped shaped the culture of American Dog training for more than three decades. Visit our sponsor: https://www.uglydoghunting.com Visit Grayson's Website: https://losthighwaykennels.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 2h 07m 50s | ||||||
| 6/14/24 | E-Collars | Grayson muses on all things e-collar and talks through his collar conditioning process. Visit our sponsor https://www.uglydoghunting.com Visit our website https://losthighwaykennels.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 11m 57s | ||||||
| 5/3/24 | Group Class #1 Syllabus and Puppy Update | Grayson lays out his objectives for the first summertime group class at Lost Highway Kennels. There are currently three puppies being started by Grayson: Ripple (Cecil x Althea repeat) is a 15 week old Labrador Van (son of Pete) is a 6 month old Epagneul Breton Unnamed Red Girl (Grandaughter of Lucy) is a 12 week old labrador Follow along with their progress over the next several episodes. Visit our sponsor: https://www.uglydoghunting.com https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 42m 16s | ||||||
| 4/17/24 | Trial and Collar Wise Dogs with Ben Lepinski | Ben Lepinski of Lepinski K9 Services joins me to share his thoughts on avoiding equipment issues and making trial wise dogs. Ben is a high level competitor in protection sports and hobbiest retriever trainer. For a more complete bio and dive into Ben's career please go back and listen to our last episode recorded in September of '23 where we reviewed Konrad Most's classic book Training Dogs; A Manual. This time around Ben helps me work through the issue of equipment and trial wiseness in competition dogs. Check out Ben's website to learn more about his services and upcoming events: https://www.lepinskik9.com Grayson's website: https://losthighwaykennels.com Link to our sponsor: Ugly Dog Hunting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 34m 51s | ||||||
| 3/21/24 | Advanced Concepts and Techniques for Finishing Pointing Dogs | Grayson muses on concepts and techniques for pointing dog finished work. Listen closely for the sidebar on selection and the talent/temperament balance. Notes avaialable at: https://losthighwaykennels.com/ Visit my sponsor: https://www.uglydoghunting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 39m 58s | ||||||
| 2/21/24 | Season Recap and Althea's Worrisome Puppy Delivery | Grayson recaps his favorite hunting season to date, and tells the story of Althea's recent litter (the good, the bad, and the ugly). Show notes available at: https://losthighwaykennels.com Visit our sponsor: Ugly Dog Hunting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 50m 17s | ||||||
| 2/1/24 | Raw Curious with Emily Shirey | Grayson shuts up and stays in his lane while Emily goes deep on all things when it comes to feeding a raw diet. Link to show notes: https://losthighwaykennels.com/raw-curious-by-emily-shirey/ Visit our sponsor: https://www.uglydoghunting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 54m 31s | ||||||
| 12/24/23 | The Ruark Challenge and Catching Up With Will Newell | Will Newell is an avid outdoorsman and conservationist. We discuss the upcoming Saint Huberts trial and Will's new project, The Ruark Challenge. Saint Hubert Championship (America) Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3655244044704469/ McNabb Challenge (Inspiration for the Ruark Challenge): https://www.thefield.co.uk/macnab-challenge Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 13m 14s | ||||||
| 12/5/23 | The Victor Recall and Kibble Talk With Emily Shirey | Grayson and Emily sit down to discuss the recent recall on Victor dog food and it's impact on their businesses and daily lives. Emily goes deep on dog nutrition and the pet food industry. If you feed kibble to your performance dog this one is worth a listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 26m 50s | ||||||
| 10/31/23 | Humans and Dogs; A Coevolution | Grayson recaps his recent hunting trip, discusses changes to this Season's St Hubert's Trial, and muses about the origins of the relationship between man and dog. Visit our sponsor, Ugly Dog Hunting: https://www.uglydoghunting.com Visit our website; https://losthighwaykennels.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 41m 50s | ||||||
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