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| 5/13/26 | 21. Why Your Resume Isn’t Working (And What to Do About It) | If you’ve been applying to jobs, getting auto-rejected, or hearing absolutely nothing back… this episode is for you.Elin Filbey and Alli Schell break down the biggest resume mistakes they see museum professionals making and why so many resumes fail before a hiring manager even seriously looks at them.Because most of the time, it’s not that you’re unqualified.It’s a strategy issue. It’s a communication issue. Or your resume simply isn’t making it easy for someone to understand why you’re a fit.Throughout the conversation, they unpack:why a resume is a marketing document, not a full record of your careerthe difference between resumes and CVshow museum professionals often write for the wrong audienceand why hiring managers are not going to “connect the dots” for youThey also dive into:tailoring resumes to specific job “lanes” instead of sending the same one everywherewhy focusing only on tasks (instead of impact) hurts your applicationshow to better communicate scope, leadership, and responsibilityand why so many museum professionals undersell the complexity of what they actually doThe episode also tackles one of the most common areas of confusion in today’s job market:ATS (Applicant Tracking Systems)Elin and Alli explain:why overly designed templates often backfirewhy Canva/Etsy-style resumes can create technical issueswhat actually makes a resume easy for both humans and software to readand why “standing out” visually is outdated advice in a digital hiring landscapeThroughout the episode, they come back to one core idea:The goal of your resume is not to sound impressive.It’s to make it obvious why you’re a fit for the role.If your resume hasn’t been getting traction lately, this episode will help you step back, rethink your strategy, and understand what might actually be getting in the way.**If you want to meet up with Elin and Alli at AAM in Philly, fill out this short form to be included in updates on where we'll be.Chapters00:00 Why resumes get auto-rejected02:00 Resume myths and “standing out” advice03:30 A resume is a marketing document05:00 Resume vs CV: what’s the difference?08:00 One page? Two pages? Resume length debates13:00 Who are you actually writing for?15:00 Tailoring for museum vs non-museum audiences18:00 Why you need to “connect the dots”20:00 Don’t bury the lead: highlighting relevant experience23:00 Tasks vs impact in bullet points28:00 Showing scope, outcomes, and responsibility31:00 ATS systems and resume formatting mistakes35:00 Why Canva/Etsy templates can hurt your applications38:00 Keyword stuffing vs strategic alignment39:00 Why generic resumes don’t work43:00 Leadership resumes and organizing complex experience45:00 Final takeaways: clarity, strategy, and alignmentKeywordsmuseum careersmuseum resumesresume tipsmuseum professionalsATS resume tipsjob search strategymuseum job searchcareer transitionsresume formattingtransferable skillsmuseum jobsresume mistakescareer coachingmuseum career coach | — | ||||||
| 5/6/26 | 20. When Leaving Isn’t a Choice: Chronic Illness, Motherhood, and Letting Go of a Museum Career | Leaving the museum field is often framed as a choice.Better pay. Better work-life balance. A new career path.But sometimes… it’s not a choice at all.In this episode, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell talk with Sam McLaren-Fahey about what it looks like to leave museum work because life requires it, not because you want to.Sam spent years working in museum education and nonprofit programming before transitioning into real estate. But her decision to leave the field wasn’t about career growth or dissatisfaction with the work.It was shaped by:chronic illnessphysical limitationsbecoming a parentand needing to build a life that was actually sustainableThis conversation gets into what that looked like in real time, including navigating years of undiagnosed illness, pushing through work while her health declined, and ultimately having to make a decision she didn’t feel ready for.They also talk about:the emotional impact of losing your professional identitywhat it means to grieve a career you lovedand how museum work can stay with you—even after you leaveSam shares what it was like to:move from a physically demanding museum role into more sustainable worknavigate job loss during maternity leaveand eventually build a new career in real estate—one that still reflects her values around education, empathy, and helping peopleThroughout the conversation, one thing becomes very clear:👉 Leaving doesn’t mean you stopped caring👉 And it doesn’t mean that part of you is goneIt just means something in your life needed to change.This episode is for anyone who has ever felt like they were pushed out of a career they loved or had to make a decision they weren’t ready to make.⏱ Chapters00:00 When leaving isn’t a choice02:00 Sam’s background in museums and education05:00 Early health challenges and undiagnosed illness08:00 Working through severe physical decline12:00 Medical gaslighting and finally getting answers17:00 Adjusting roles and leaving museum work20:00 Losing professional identity25:00 Becoming a parent during a pandemic28:00 Forced career break and mental health challenges32:00 Finding real estate (and why it made sense)36:00 Building a new career from scratch41:00 Transferable museum skills in a new field46:00 Collaboration vs competition in different industries50:00 Money, value, and mindset shifts55:00 What Sam still misses about museum work58:00 Flexibility, health, and redefining success1:00:00 Advice for people navigating similar situations🔍 Keywordsmuseum careersleaving museumscareer transitionsmuseum professionalschronic illness and worknonprofit careerscareer identityworking with chronic illnessmuseum education careerscareer change stories | — | ||||||
| 4/29/26 | 19. Museum Grad School Series (Part 3 of 3): Alternatives & What the Field Gets Wrong | If you’ve made it this far in the series, you’re probably sitting with a big question:If I don’t go to grad school… what are my options?In Part 3 of this series, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell break down what it actually looks like to build a museum career without relying on a graduate degree and why that path is more viable (and necessary) than the field often acknowledges.Because while museum grad school is often presented as the “next step,” the reality is: it’s not the only pathit’s not always the most effective pathand it’s definitely not a guarantee of a jobThis episode explores:how the museum field has shifted (but expectations haven’t kept up)which roles actually require degrees and which don’thow to use job descriptions to reverse-engineer your career path and necessary education and how to identify the difference between “required” vs. “preferred” qualificationsThey also get candid about where the field itself needs to do better... from over-reliance on degrees to lack of training, inaccessible internships, and unrealistic hiring expectations.Because this isn’t just an individual problem. It’s a structural one.🔑 Key TakeawaysThere is no single path into or within museum careers even if it’s often presented that wayA graduate degree is not a “silver bullet” and does not guarantee a jobMany roles value hands-on experience more than degreesJob descriptions are your best data source. Look for patterns, not one-offs“Required” vs. “preferred” qualifications matter when evaluating rolesYou can build skills through targeted, lower-cost alternatives instead of full degree programsTransferable skills (project management, communication, collaboration) are highly valuable across rolesIf you’re investing time in learning, you need to reflect that on your resumeThe museum field still has major gaps in training, accessibility, and hiring practicesChoosing not to go to grad school is not opting out, it’s choosing a different strategy⏱ Chapters00:00 Where you might be after Parts 1 & 202:30 The disconnect between degrees and ROI05:00 The “grad school or nothing” mindset08:00 How the field has shifted (but expectations haven’t)12:00 Roles that do require degrees15:30 Starting with job descriptions (your data set)20:00 Identifying patterns: requirements vs preferences24:00 Using AI, spreadsheets, or manual tracking28:00 Certifications and targeted training programs34:00 Webinars and free/low-cost learning39:00 Libraries, online learning platforms, and YouTube45:00 Transferable skills and broad skill-building52:00 Strategic volunteering as professional development55:00 Internships and fellowships (and their limitations)59:00 Mentorship, networking, and informational interviews1:03:00 Conferences, vendors, and hidden opportunities1:06:00 Where the field needs to do better1:12:00 Rethinking grad programs (trade school model)1:18:00 Final reframes and decision-making🔍 Keywords museum careersmuseum grad school alternativesmuseum jobsmuseum professionalscareer development museumsmuseum education careerstransferable skillsmuseum job search strategyGLAM careersprofessional developmentmuseum internshipscareer transitions | — | ||||||
| 4/22/26 | 18. Museum Grad School Series. Part 2 of 3: How to Evaluate a Program | If you’re considering museum grad school, this is the episode where things get real.In Part 1, we talked about whether grad school makes sense in the first place.In this episode, we’re assuming you are considering it and walking through how to actually evaluate programs so you can make a smart, informed decision.Because here’s the truth:Grad school is not just an academic decision. It’s a financial, professional, and strategic one.And not all programs are created equal.In this episode, we break down:how to approach grad school like a mutual selection process (you’re interviewing them, too)the questions you should be asking before committinghow to think about ROI (beyond just “getting a job”)what actually matters when comparing programsand where a lot of museum grad programs fall shortWe’re also very honest about something that doesn’t get talked about enough: Many museum grad programs are revenue generators for universities.Which means you need to approach this as an informed consumer... asking for data, not just vibes.This episode is here to help you slow down, ask better questions, and make a decision that actually aligns with your goals.🔑 Key TakeawaysGrad school should be evaluated based on what you want to get out of it... not what the field says you “should” doYou should approach programs like a two-way interview, asking clear and specific questionsROI matters and that includes cost, time, lost income, and realistic salary expectationsLocation can significantly impact your access to internships, networks, and job opportunitiesOnline programs can work but often require you to create your own hands-on experienceInternships are critical, but not always built into programs in a meaningful wayNot all programs provide career support tailored to the museum fieldAlumni networks and faculty connections can be one of the most valuable parts of a programYou are often paying for access and networks, not just courseworkTransferable skills matter both inside and outside the museum field⏱ Chapters00:00 Why you need Part 1 before this02:30 Treating grad school like an interview04:00 What do you actually want out of a program?07:00 Using job descriptions to guide your decision10:00 Location, cost of living, and opportunity access13:00 Online vs in-person programs16:00 “Be a smart consumer”: programs as revenue generators18:30 Time to completion + working while in school21:00 Financial realities (tuition, scholarships, hidden costs)24:00 Faculty connections and real-world experience28:00 Hands-on skills vs theory32:00 Internships: required, paid, and competitive37:00 Job placement transparency (what to ask programs)39:00 Career support: resumes, interviews, and beyond40:30 Alumni networks and long-term value42:00 Transferable skills (and why they matter more than you think)52:00 Final thoughts + how to make your decision🔍 Keywords museum grad schoolmuseum studies degreemuseum careersmuseum jobsgraduate school evaluationmuseum professionalscareer development museumsmuseum internshipsarts careersGLAM careersmuseum educationcareer strategy | — | ||||||
| 4/15/26 | 17. Museum Grad School Series. Part 1 of 3: Should You Go? | This is one of the most common questions in the museum field: Should I go to grad school?And the honest answer is… it’s complicated.In this first episode of a three-part series, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell break down what actually goes into that decision... beyond the default advice to “just get the degree.”Drawing from their own experiences (both GW grads), insights from the Museum Pros subreddit, LinkedIn conversations, and years of working with clients, they unpack:why this question is so emotionally loadedwhat museum grad school can offer (and what it can’t)the reality of salaries, competition, and job marketshow much of grad school is really about access and networkswhere programs often fall short (hint: career prep and real-world skills)and the biggest question you should be asking yourself before applyingThey also talk candidly about:the pressure to “do the right thing”the financial reality (and tradeoffs) of grad schooland why a master’s degree does not guarantee a jobThis episode isn’t here to tell you yes or no.It’s here to help you make a smarter, more informed decision.👉 Part 2 will cover how to evaluate grad programs👉 Part 3 will explore alternatives to grad school🔑 Key TakeawaysMuseum grad school is often presented as the default path but the reality is far more complexA degree does not guarantee a job, especially in a competitive, low-salary fieldWhat you’re really paying for is often access, networks, and opportunities, not just knowledgeMany programs are too theoretical and don’t adequately prepare students for the job marketHands-on experience (internships, projects, portfolios) is critical early in your career, when pivoting, or when trying to move up in the fieldThe financial ROI of grad school is often unclear or limitedYour location and target job market can influence whether a degree is necessaryThe most important question isn’t “Should I go?”→ It’s: “What am I trying to get out of this?”⏱ Chapters00:00 DC food nostalgia + intro06:40 Why this became a 3-part series08:00 Why “Should I go to grad school?” is everywhere10:30 Why this question is so complicated14:00 The reality of museum jobs (salary, competition, structure)17:00 What grad school doesn’t prepare you for18:30 Alli’s experience: expectations vs reality22:30 Elin’s path to grad school29:00 Alli’s path + pressure to pursue a master’s33:30 What you actually get from grad school36:00 The power of networks + “GW mafia”40:00 Hands-on skills vs theory44:00 When grad school is necessary (specific roles)48:00 Where programs fall short52:00 Real-world skills you actually need54:30 Financial reality + ROI59:00 Location, access, and strategy1:01:00 The question you should actually be asking1:02:30 Preview of Part 2🔍 Keywordsmuseum grad schoolmuseum studies degreemuseum careersmuseum jobsshould I go to grad schoolmuseum professionalscareer transitions museumsmuseum education careersgraduate school decisionarts careersGLAM careersmuseum job market | — | ||||||
| 4/8/26 | 16. Museums Run on Emotional Labor, But Why isn't it Valued? | There’s a kind of work happening in museums that doesn’t show up in job descriptions, annual reports, or performance reviews, but it shapes everything.The way you calm a frustrated visitor, hold space for a volunteer going through a hard time, how you navigate conflict, or carry the emotional weight of your community.It’s the work beneath the work.In this episode of Curate Your Career, Alli Schell and Elin Filbey sit down with Ashley Witherspoon, licensed clinical social worker and founder of Handmade Dreams, LLC to talk about invisible, emotional labor and why museum work is far more complex than what we measure.Ashley shares how her background in healthcare led her into museums, what she sees as the biggest gaps in support for museum workers, and how we can begin to name, track, and advocate for the full scope of what this work actually requires.Together, they unpack:what emotional and invisible labor actually look like in museum roleswhy so much of this work goes unrecognized (and unsupported)how burnout in museums mirrors what we see in healthcarethe gaps in training, onboarding, and workplace preparationhow museum workers can start documenting and advocating for this laborand what it means to rethink “worth” beyond metrics and productivityIf you’ve ever felt like the hardest parts of your job are the ones no one sees, this episode will put language to that experience and give you a place to start.Learn more about Ashley's new initiative, MuseMind! Key TakeawaysEmotional and invisible labor are core parts of museum work, not “extra” tasksThe most impactful work museum professionals do often isn’t reflected in metricsBurnout isn’t just about workload. it’s about unrecognized and unsupported laborMuseums tend to operate reactively instead of proactively when it comes to staff wellbeingTraining is a major gap across the fieldYou can begin advocating for yourself by documenting the labor that happens “below the waterline”Worth is not something you earn through productivity, it’s something you already haveSmall shifts (like naming this work in meetings or reviews) can lead to larger systemic changeRest, boundaries, and recovery time are not luxuries, they’re necessary for sustainabilityMuseum workers are deeply embedded in their communities and carry that impact both inside and outside of workChapters00:00 The Talk That Sparked This Episode03:00 Ashley’s Path from Healthcare to Museums08:00 Museums as Spaces for Connection + Care13:00 Defining Emotional and Invisible Labor18:00 The Iceberg: What’s Above vs. Below the Surface24:00 Burnout, Turnover, and Lack of Support30:00 Why Museums Are Always “Chasing Fires”36:00 Training Gaps and Frontline Staff Realities42:00 Making Invisible Labor Visible (and Measurable)48:00 Rethinking Worth Beyond Metrics55:00 Stop, Start, Continue: Practical Strategies1:02:00 Rest, Boundaries, and Recovery Time1:07:00 What Museums Can Learn from Healthcare1:12:00 Ashley’s Work + Museum Wellness Guide Keywordsmuseum careersmuseum professionalsemotional laborinvisible labormuseum burnoutmuseum workplace culturemuseum jobscareer sustainabilitymuseum leadershipworkplace wellbeingmuseum training gapsmuseum advocacymuseum workforce | — | ||||||
| 4/1/26 | 15. What If You Didn’t Leave the Objects, Just the Museum? Ryan's Story. | A few weeks ago, Elin shared a LinkedIn post about an alternative career path for museum professionals... and it struck a nerve.What if you could keep working with objects… just not in a museum?In this episode of Curate Your Career, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell sit down with Ryan Jelso, a former curator at The Henry Ford, who pivoted into estate services, appraisal, and personal collections work.Ryan shares what it actually looked like to leave a respected curatorial role, navigate the identity shift, and build a new career that still centers material culture, just in a completely different context.Together, they unpack:what museum professionals often misunderstand about their own skillshow working with “the stuff” translates outside institutional settingswhat it takes to break into estate services and appraisal workand why this field is poised for major growth in the coming decadesThey also talk honestly about what it means to leave a “dream job,” the grief that can come with that decision, and how to recognize when something isn’t the right fit anymore.If you’ve ever thought, “I love working with objects, but I’m not sure museums are sustainable for me long-term,” this episode will open your eyes to a path you may not have considered.🔑 Key TakeawaysMuseum skills like research, object interpretation, and inventory management are highly transferable outside the fieldYou don’t have to leave the work you love. Sometimes you just change the contextIdentity is one of the hardest parts of leaving museum workWaiting too long to explore other options can lead to burnout and loss of confidenceEstate services, appraisal, and secondhand markets are growing industries due to generational wealth transferNetworking doesn’t have to be complicated. In-person connection and follow-up matterMuseum professionals often undervalue their ability to see the bigger picture and connect multiple stakeholdersYou can still be a steward of history and material culture outside a museum setting⏱ Chapters00:00 The LinkedIn Post That Sparked This Episode03:00 Ryan’s Museum Career at The Henry Ford10:00 What He Loved About Curatorial Work13:00 When Discontent Started Creeping In18:00 Identity, Grief, and Leaving a “Dream Job”24:00 Realizing a Mismatch in Work Style29:00 Discovering Estate Services & Reselling32:00 How He Actually Made the Pivot36:00 Transferable Skills That Mattered Most42:00 Finding Meaning in a New Role46:00 Money, Growth, and Career Ceiling in Museums50:00 Advice for Leaving (Before You Hit Burnout)57:00 Do You Miss Museums? Would You Go Back?1:00:00 How to Explore This Career Path🔍 Keywordsmuseum careersmuseum professionalscareer transitionsmuseum jobsestate servicesappraisal careerstransferable skillsleaving museumsalternative careers museumsworking with objectscareer pivotmaterial culture | — | ||||||
| 3/25/26 | 14. Mail Bag #3 | In this third Mail Bag episode, Alli Schell and Elin Filbey answer listener questions about navigating early vs. mid-career roles, breaking into (or moving up within) the museum field, and what it really takes to stand out in today’s job market.They unpack the nuance behind “Am I qualified enough?”, especially for those with transferable skills and dive into the realities of freelancing and consulting in museums. The conversation also tackles one of the most common frustrations in the field: work-life balance. Finally, they break down what’s really happening in final-round interviews when you're not landing the offer.Whether you’re trying to level up, pivot into museums, explore independent work, or finally land the role you keep getting close to, this episode is for you.Ask a Mailbag Question:https://forms.gle/m41nnxPS4TKXQ1i89TakeawaysUnderstanding the difference between early and mid-career roles can shape your job search strategyTransferable skills need to be clearly translated to connect the dots for hiring managersFreelancing and consulting requires market awarenessWork-life balance is often a top need of workers in the fieldFraming workplace challenges in terms of organizational impact can drive changeFinal-round interviews often come down to storytelling, clarity, and fitKnowing your “why” helps differentiate you from equally qualified candidatesAligning with an organization’s values and culture is critical in hiring decisionsSoft skills (communication, storytelling, presence) are key to interview successFeedback, reflection, and practice are essential for growth in the job searchChapters00:00 Introduction and Mailbag Overview03:30 Early vs. Mid-Career: Where Do I Fit?10:45 Transferable Skills & “Translation Work”20:15 Freelancing & Consulting in Museums32:10 Work-Life Balance & Weekend Burnout42:30 Final Round Interviews: What’s Missing?52:00 Building Skills & Standing OutKeywords:museum careers, museum professionals, career transitions, transferable skills, museum jobs, freelancing, consulting, work-life balance, interview tips, job search strategy, museum education, professional development, networking, career coaching | — | ||||||
| 3/19/26 | 13. Advocating for Museum Workers (Not Just Museums) | Who gets to shape the future of museums?For a long time, advocacy in the museum field has focused on institutions (funding, preservation, and public programs). But what about the people doing the work?In this episode of Curate Your Career, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell are joined by members of the National Emerging Museum Professionals Network (NEMPN) board to talk about Museum Workers Advocacy Day (MWAD) and the growing movement to center museum workers in conversations about the future of the field.Together, they explore how NEMPN evolved from a community-focused network into an advocacy-driven organization, why Museum Workers Advocacy Day was created in response to barriers in traditional advocacy spaces, and what it looks like to advocate for fair pay, equitable hiring practices, and sustainable careers in museums.They also break down a powerful idea: advocacy isn’t just something directors or institutions do. It’s something museum workers are already doing every day.If you’ve ever felt frustrated by the structure of museum work or wondered how to create change without burning yourself out, this episode is for you.In This Episode, We Discuss:What the National Emerging Museum Professionals Network (NEMPN) is and who it servesThe shift toward advocacy in 2022 and the 2023 strategic planWhy Museum Workers Advocacy Day was created and how it’s different from traditional advocacy effortsKey issues facing museum workers today (fair pay, unpaid internships, burnout, access to the field)Why emerging professionals are often closest to the future of the fieldHow advocacy shows up in everyday museum workPractical ways to get involved in advocacy, locally and nationallyWhy “you don’t have to do everything” when it comes to advocacyKey TakeawaysAdvocacy in museums has historically centered institutions but museum workers themselves need representation tooMuseum Workers Advocacy Day was created to remove barriers and make advocacy accessible, free, and inclusiveIssues like low pay, unpaid internships, and burnout continue to impact the sustainability of museum careersEmerging professionals bring fresh perspectives, current knowledge, and direct audience experience that are critical to the field’s futureAdvocacy doesn’t have to be big — it can start with asking better questions, building relationships, and making small changesYou don’t have to do everything. Advocacy is not all-or-nothingBuilding a more equitable museum field requires collective action, not individual sacrificeChapters00:00 Why Advocacy Feels Out of Reach for Museum Workers03:00 What is NEMPN? Origins and Evolution08:30 Who Counts as an “Emerging Museum Professional”?13:30 Career Development, Community, and Advocacy18:00 The Shift to Discord + Building Community21:00 Volunteering as Skill-Building (and Why It Matters)26:30 The Origin of Museum Workers Advocacy Day31:00 Why Center Museum Workers (Not Just Institutions)38:00 What to Expect from MWAD 202646:30 Key Issues Facing Museum Workers Today54:00 Why Advocacy Feels Hard (and How to Start Anyway)1:02:00 Practical Ways to Get Involved1:08:00 What Gives Us Hope About the FutureKeywordsmuseum careersmuseum advocacymuseum workersmuseum workers advocacy dayNEMPNmuseum jobscareer sustainabilitymuseum burnoutunpaid internships museumsmuseum salary transparencymuseum professionalsmuseum career advicearts and culture careers | — | ||||||
| 3/11/26 | 12. Soo... You Got Fired. Now What? | Getting fired, laid off, or unexpectedly losing a job can feel devastating. Especially in a field where so much of our identity is tied to the work we do.In this episode of Curate Your Career, Elin Filbey and Alli Schell tackle a difficult but incredibly common experience in museum careers: what happens when a job ends before you expected it to.They talk openly about the emotional fallout, the practical steps to take next, and how to rebuild confidence after a job loss.From navigating LinkedIn and networking conversations to crafting your story for future interviews, Elin and Alli walk through the mindset shifts and strategies that help museum professionals move forward without losing their sense of purpose or value.They also explore a bigger truth many people in the field experience: sometimes losing a job isn’t a personal failure. Sometimes it’s a reflection of deeper structural issues within museums, including burnout culture, underfunding, and unrealistic expectations placed on staff.If you’ve recently been fired, laid off, or are worried it might happen someday, this episode offers honest guidance and reassurance that one job ending does not define your career.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why getting fired doesn’t automatically mean you were bad at your jobHow museum professionals often internalize systemic problems in the fieldWhat to do (and what not to do) immediately after losing a jobHow to reach out to your network without oversharing or feeling ashamedThe best way to talk about being fired in interviews and professional conversationsWhy taking time to reflect before jumping into the next role mattersHow to rebuild confidence and reconnect with your professional strengthsThis episode is a reminder that career setbacks are not the end of your story. They’re often the beginning of a new direction.Key TakeawaysGetting fired or laid off does not erase your skills or the work you contributed.Many museum job losses stem from structural issues like funding challenges, leadership turnover, or unclear expectations.You don’t need to rush into the next opportunity. Taking time to reflect is critical.Leaning on trusted mentors, colleagues, and friends can help you navigate the emotional and professional aftermath.When discussing job loss in interviews, focus on clarity and forward momentum rather than blame or oversharing.Losing a job can be an opportunity to reassess your career goals and identify what you truly want next.Chapters00:00 Why We’re Talking About Getting Fired04:45 Personal Stories and Museum Career Realities14:20 The Emotional Aftermath of Job Loss19:30 Reaching Out to Your Support Network23:00 Navigating LinkedIn and Public Job Announcements34:00 How to Talk About Being Fired in Interviews46:00 Using This Moment to Reassess Your Career53:00 Rebuilding Confidence After a Job Loss1:02:00 A Mindset Exercise for Letting Go and Moving ForwardKeywordsmuseum careersmuseum jobscareer transitionmuseum layoffsgetting firedcareer coachingmuseum professionalsmuseum career advicecareer setbackmuseum burnoutprofessional resiliencemuseum leadership | — | ||||||
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| 3/4/26 | 11. Volunteerism as Professional Development (How to Build Skills Without Another Job) | What if one of the best ways to build new career skills… didn’t involve getting another job?Volunteer work is often overlooked as professional experience, but when done intentionally it can be a powerful way to develop leadership, explore new fields, and expand your network.In this episode, we’re joined by Angela Williamson, CVA, a Certified Volunteer Administrator and volunteer engagement consultant. Together we unpack how volunteer roles can help you build skills, expand your network, and explore new career directions, whether you’re trying to advance within your field or transition into something new.We also tackle some of the biggest misconceptions around volunteering, including the idea that it’s “not real experience,” and share practical advice for making volunteer roles work for your career goals.In this conversation we discuss:How volunteering can help you build new skills and leadership experienceThe right way to approach organizations when you want to volunteer strategicallyWhy volunteer work absolutely belongs on your resumeHow nonprofits can design better volunteer opportunitiesThe importance of leaving volunteer roles well (and why ghosting hurts everyone)Why volunteer engagement should be seen as a strategic asset, not free laborWhether you're exploring a career shift, trying to gain management experience, or simply looking for meaningful ways to contribute to your community, this episode will help you think about volunteering in a whole new way.GuestAngela Williamson, CVAVolunteer Community Relations Specialist, Blood Bank of DelmarvaFounder, Volunteer Engagement AcceleratorAngela helps nonprofits design stronger volunteer programs that attract, retain, and empower volunteers through intentional engagement strategies.🔗 Connect with AngelaLinkedIn: Angela WilliamsonWebsite: AngelaWilliamsonCVA.comKey TakeawaysVolunteer work can be strategic career developmentVolunteering can help you:Gain leadership experienceBuild new skillsExplore new career directionsExpand your professional networkStrengthen your resumeYou can volunteer outside your fieldIf you're trying to develop a specific skill (like management or budgeting) you can often find opportunities in nonprofits outside your current industry.Ask for what you want to learnInstead of waiting for the perfect opportunity, you can approach organizations and say:“I’m hoping to build experience in ___. Are there opportunities where I could contribute while learning that skill?”Volunteer experience absolutely belongs on your resumeIf a volunteer role helps demonstrate a skill relevant to the job you're pursuing, it can appear alongside professional experience, not buried at the bottom.Leave volunteer roles professionallyIf you need to move on:Communicate clearlyProvide a transitionDocument your workLeaving well protects your reputation and keeps the relationship strong. | — | ||||||
| 2/25/26 | 10. Stretch, Match, or Mismatch? Applying Strategically in a Tough Market | Are you applying for jobs you could do… or jobs you’re actually ready for?In this episode of Curate Your Career, Elin and Alli tackle one of the most common (and emotionally charged) questions they hear from clients: “Should I apply if I don’t meet everything?”Together, they break down:Why the “apply if you meet 60%” advice often backfiresHow hiring managers actually read years of experienceThe difference between exposure and ownershipWhy overselling and underselling come from the same placeHow to stop emotionally gambling on stretch rolesYou’ll learn the three categories every job application falls into:1️⃣ Anchor Roles – where you should be competitive2️⃣ Strategic Stretch Roles – growth opportunities (without attachment to outcome)3️⃣ Mismatch Roles – the energy drains that erode confidenceIf you’ve ever:Applied to 100 jobs and heard nothing backFelt frustrated that “they didn’t see your potential”Chased a dream title at a dream institutionOr played it too safe because your confidence took a hitThis episode will help you apply strategically, with honesty, intention, and self-compassion.Because not every application is meant to land an interview.And that’s not failure. It’s information.Chapters00:00 – The Real Question Behind “Should I Apply?”02:08 – Why the 60% Rule Doesn’t Work Anymore05:19 – Why Applying Isn’t Free (Protecting Your Energy & Confidence)10:13 – The Three Types of Applications12:24 – Anchor Roles: Where You Should Be Competitive15:26 – Trusting the Process (Don’t Overcorrect Too Soon)17:47 – Strategic Stretch Roles: Growth Without Emotional Gambling20:39 – Be a Goldfish: Detaching From Outcomes24:22 – Title Mismatch & Making Your Case27:16 – Mismatch Roles: Energy Drains to Eliminate33:29 – Dream Titles & Hard Truths36:06 – The Self-Assessment Walkthrough37:45 – Led vs Assisted: Duties vs Exposure38:50 – Scope vs Skill (Scale Matters)40:59 – What Do You Actually Want From This Role?43:09 – Why We Oversell and Undersell47:13 – A Real Client Example48:25 – Strategy as Self-CompassionKeywords museum careersjob search strategycareer coachingmuseum professionalscareer transitionstretch rolesjob application adviceyears of experience requirementsoverselling yourselfunderselling yourselfcareer pivothiring manager perspectivemuseum job marketprofessional growthstrategic job search | — | ||||||
| 2/18/26 | 9. Mail Bag #2 | In this second Mailbag episode, Alli Schell and Elin Filbey answer listener questions about graduate school investments, career pivots, and the emotional weight that often comes with choosing or leaving museum work.They unpack why not all museum studies programs offer equal opportunity (and how to think critically before enrolling), and how transferable skills can open unexpected doors. They also talk candidly about guilt, regret, family expectations, and the very real identity shifts that come with career change.Whether you’re navigating the museum job market, considering grad school, transitioning back into museums, or wrestling with “Am I allowed to want something different?” this episode is for you.Ask a Mailbag Question:https://forms.gle/m41nnxPS4TKXQ1i89TakeawaysAdvocacy for museums should be accessible and grassroots.Higher education in museum studies is a significant investment and not all museum grad programs provide equal opportunities.Teaching and other transferable skills are valuable in museum roles.Networking remains one of the most powerful job-search tools.Guilt and regret are common when considering career shifts.The museum field is evolving and so are career paths.Support systems (including family) matter more than we admit.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Mailbag Overview01:20 Museum Advocacy & Accessibility Rant09:10 Navigating Career Paths in Museums25:01 Guilt, Identity & Career Transitions31:31 Organizational Challenges & Boundaries33:28 Job Market Barriers44:00 Transitioning Back to Museums51:00 Family Supporting Aspiring Museum ProfessionalsKeywords:museum advocacy, museum careers, museum studies, career transitions, museum education, transferable skills, museum jobs, networking, grad school decisions, museum professionals, career coaching, museum job market | — | ||||||
| 2/11/26 | 8. Leaving Museums Didn’t Mean Failing, It Meant Choosing Myself: Mary’s Career Pivot Story | What happens when your passion for museums isn’t enough anymore?In this episode of Curate Your Career, Elin and Alli sit down with Mary Culler to talk honestly about her decision to step away from the museum field and into a new role in a new field.Mary shares what it looked like to confront financial instability, emotional labor, and work-life imbalance and how she navigated the fear, grief, and relief that came with choosing something different.We talk about turning down job offers, recognizing when a role no longer fits, and translating museum skills into a completely new environment. Mary also opens up about imposter syndrome after the pivot, the power of soft skills, and why career moves don’t have to be permanent to be meaningful.This episode is for anyone who:Loves museums but needs more stability or balanceIs wondering if leaving means “giving up”Is afraid of making the wrong career decisionNeeds permission to choose growth, even when it’s complicatedKey TakeawaysFinancial stability and well-being are valid reasons to change pathsEmotional labor can quietly shape burnout in museum rolesTurning down a job offer can be an act of self-trustMuseum experience builds highly transferable skills, even outside the fieldImposter syndrome doesn’t disappear overnight, but confidence does growSoft skills often matter more than technical ones in career transitionsCareer decisions don’t have to be permanent to be worthwhileChapters00:00 – Introduction: when passion isn’t enough01:47 – Mary’s museum career path03:27 – Recognizing the need for change05:48 – Job searching, offers, and hard decisions08:09 – Transitioning into a new role10:02 – What the pivot revealed14:51 – Settling into something new19:09 – Translating museum skills beyond the field22:40 – Relationship-building and soft skills24:27 – Imposter syndrome after a pivot28:36 – Making peace with career uncertainty31:37 – Prioritizing values and growth35:06 – Finding your voice — and your next stepKeywordsmuseum careers, career transitions, museum professionals, leaving museums, transferable skills, imposter syndrome, career pivot, work-life balance, financial stability, career coaching, personal growth | — | ||||||
| 2/4/26 | 7. Negotiating Isn’t Rude (and Other Lies We’ve Been Told) | Alli and Elin delve into the fears and misconceptions associated with negotiation. The episode covers unsuccessful negotiation experiences, rescinded job offers, and negotiation dynamics. It also discusses advocating for yourself and reaching a mutual agreement, as well as preparation for negotiation and the value proposition. The conversation covers the topic of negotiation in job offers, emphasizing the importance of considering various forms of compensation and benefits beyond base salary. It also highlights the significance of expressing excitement for the role while negotiating and practicing the negotiation ask out loud. The discussion includes client success stories and practical tips for negotiating effectively.TakeawaysNegotiation mindsetResearching salary ranges Negotiation is not just about base salaryConsider other forms of compensation and benefitsExpress excitement for the role while negotiatingPractice saying your ask out loudWrite down your ideal and minimum acceptable salary rangesConsider what benefits are important to youChapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview10:59 Unsuccessful Negotiation Experiences16:55 Advocating for Yourself and Mutual Agreement24:25 Negotiation Beyond Base Salary31:15 Tactics During Negotiation39:04 Client Success Stories and Negotiations | — | ||||||
| 1/28/26 | 6. Designing Better Museum Internships (for Interns AND Institutions) with Sierra Von Ryck DeGroot | In this episode of Curate Your Career, Alli Schell is joined by Sierra Van Ryck DeGroot, Associate Educator at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, for an honest conversation about internships in the museum field: what works, what doesn’t, and what should change.Together, they unpack their own formative internship experiences, the role of mentorship and representation, and why meaningful, paid internships are essential for building a more equitable museum field. Sierra shares how strong mentors shaped her career path, how interns benefit from being encouraged to explore beyond their assigned roles, and why feedback from interns should actively shape program design.To learn more about the Met's internship programs: https://www.metmuseum.org/opportunities/internshipsThis episode is for:Students and early-career museum professionals navigating internshipsMuseum staff designing or supervising internship programsAnyone questioning whether internships actually serve the future of the fieldEpisode Chapters00:00 – Introduction & guest welcome02:15 – Influential internship experiences05:48 – The importance of paid internships08:52 – Sierra’s museum origin story21:04 – Designing meaningful internship programs28:54 – Mentorship and its long-term impact32:50 – Networking beyond transactions37:11 – Building professional relationships44:30 – Internship experience & resume building49:31 – Feedback, evaluation, and growth53:24 – Top tips for interns01:01:34 – Advocating for fair compensationKeywords:internships, museum internships, museum education, mentorship, networking, professional development, paid internships, resume tips, museum careers, internship programs | — | ||||||
| 1/21/26 | 5. Not “Just” the Museum Gift Shop: Career Pathways with Melody Caban | In this episode, Alli and Elin are joined by Melody Caban, a museum gift shop consultant, to unpack the often-overlooked role of museum retail and the people who power it. Melody shares her pathway into the field, how museum store work builds highly transferable skills, and why frontline staff deserve a seat at the table in institutional decision-making.We explore how museum stores contribute to interpretation, visitor experience, and community engagement from thoughtful product curation to mission-aligned storytelling.This episode challenges the idea that museum gift shops are “just retail” and makes the case for recognizing frontline and store staff as essential museum professionals.TakeawaysMuseum gift shop roles are often undervalued, despite their impact on visitor experience and revenueMuseum retail work builds transferable skills applicable across museums and beyondFrontline and store staff hold critical visitor insight that institutions often overlookStrong collaboration between museum teams and museum gift shop managers strengthens mission alignmentMuseum stores can be powerful spaces for interpretation, community connection, and storytellingInvesting in professional development for retail staff benefits the entire organizationChapters00:00:00 The Value of Museum Gift Shops00:09:24 Why Museum Retail Roles Matter00:16:48 Transferable Skills & Career Pathways00:22:05 Collaborating with Museum Stores00:27:33 Community Engagement & Product Curation00:32:43 Museum Stores and the Visitor Experience00:38:20 Advice for Frontline & Gift Shop ProfessionalsLearn more about Melody Caban’s work as a museum store consultant and how she helps institutions rethink retail strategy, staff development, and visitor-centered design by visiting Melody's website: https://www.melodycabanconsulting.com/Keywords:museum gift shop, museum retail, frontline staff, museum careers, career pathways, transferable skills, museum jobs, visitor experience, museum interpretation, professional development, museum consulting, retail strategy | — | ||||||
| 1/14/26 | 4. And Now We Wait... Tips for Surviving the Job Search Waiting Game | This episode tackles the challenges of waiting during the job application process, particularly in the museum field. Hosts Elin and Alli discuss strategies to stay proactive and positive while navigating long hiring processes, offering tips on networking, skill-building, and maintaining motivation.Takeaways:Waiting during job applications can be stressful but manageable.Networking doesn't have to be formal; everyday interactions count.Always be applying to keep opportunities open.Use waiting time to build skills and prepare for future roles.Create a job search spreadsheet to stay organized.Mock interviews can boost confidence and readiness.Document your achievements and feedback for future use.Consider temporary roles or projects to gain new skills.Leverage your network for support and opportunities.Stay proactive and control what you can in the process.Chapters:00:00:00 Introduction and Mailbag Question00:03:00 Challenges of Waiting in Job Applications00:09:00 Networking and Staying Proactive00:15:00 Skill-Building During the Waiting Period00:21:00 Organizing Your Job Search00:27:00 Leveraging Your Network00:33:00 Conclusion and EncouragementJoin the Deaccessioned Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1311034453588429/Keywords: job application, museum jobs, waiting period, networking, skill-building, motivation, hiring process, career tips, museum field, job search | — | ||||||
| 12/28/25 | 3. Mail Bag #1 | SummaryIn this Mailbag episode, Alli Schell and Elin Filbey tackle various questions from museum professionals, focusing on job interviews, career transitions, and the value of education in museums. They provide insights on how to effectively communicate skills, navigate the job market, and consider opportunities outside the museum sector, while also addressing the challenges faced by international students seeking work in the field.ICA Way Coaching with Coach Kwan: https://www.icaway.com/Ask a Mailbag Question: https://forms.gle/m41nnxPS4TKXQ1i89TakeawaysMock interviews can provide valuable feedback.Connect your skills to the job description clearly.Storytelling is essential in interviews.Identify what you enjoy and want in your career.Research how your museum skills apply to other industries.Consider your passions when transitioning careers.Understand the importance of education in museums.Be proactive in seeking opportunities outside your current role.Networking can help maintain connections in the museum field.International job seekers face unique challenges in the museum sector.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Mailbag Episode02:43 Navigating Job Interviews in the Museum Sector10:18 Leveraging Museum Skills in Other Industries14:29 Considering a Career Shift from Museums16:34 Finding Value in Education Roles22:48 International Opportunities in the Museum Field34:22 Introduction to Curate Your Career34:58 Engagement and Community BuildingKeywordsmuseum careers, job interviews, career transitions, museum education, international students, museum skills, job search strategies, museum professionals, career coaching, museum industry | — | ||||||
| 12/28/25 | 2. All About... Us! | Before we dive into career advice, mailbag rants, and hard truths, let’s introduce ourselves. In this episode, Elin and Alli share the stories that led them here and why they’re creating a space for honest conversations about museum careers, whether you’re staying, leaving, or somewhere in between.TakeawaysThe podcast aims to support museum professionals in their career journeys.Both hosts have extensive backgrounds in museum education and coaching.Transferable skills from museum work can be applied in various fields.The importance of community and support for museum professionals is emphasized.Career transitions can be challenging, but coaching can provide guidance.The hosts share their personal stories to connect with listeners.Real advice tailored to the museum field is a key focus of the podcast.The podcast will feature discussions on navigating job applications and resumes.Listeners are encouraged to engage and share their experiences.Future episodes will include expert interviews and community-driven topics.Colleen Moore Fairy Castle: https://www.griffinmsi.org/exhibits/colleen-moores-fairy-castleAsk a Mail Bag Question: https://forms.gle/gfKXWCKe8kMWMgrS6Chapters00:00 Introduction to Curate Your Career Podcast02:23 Backgrounds and Inspirations in Museum Education05:49 Alli's Journey to Museum Career Coaching09:24 Elin's Path to Museum Education and Career Development18:06 Transitioning Careers and Finding Fulfillment18:28 Navigating Career Transitions in Museums23:35 The Unique Challenges of Museum Careers28:58 Building a Supportive Community for Museum Professionals32:07 Future Aspirations and Live Engagements34:16 Introduction to Curate Your Career34:52 Engagement and Community BuildingKeywordsmuseum careers, career coaching, museum education, transferable skills, museum professionals, podcast, career transitions, community support, museum field, coaching | — | ||||||
| 12/28/25 | 1. Listen to This Before You Rage Quit Your Museum Job | Before you rage quit your museum job (we’ve all thought about it), listen to this episode. Elin and Alli break down how to tell the difference between a bad week and a bad fit, the questions you actually need to ask yourself before leaving, and how to make a thoughtful exit plan... without burning bridges or blowing up your finances.Ask a Mail Bag Question: https://forms.gle/gfKXWCKe8kMWMgrS6TakeawaysMuseum careers are built on passion and dedication.It's essential to schedule regular check-ins with yourself about your career.Understanding your boundaries and goals is crucial for job satisfaction.Identifying pain points can help clarify your career direction.You can explore solutions within your current role before making a drastic change.Temporary changes in your career can lead to new opportunities.Networking and professional development are key to career growth.You can apply for both museum and non-museum jobs simultaneously.Self-advocacy is important in navigating workplace challenges.Reflecting on your ideal workday can guide your career decisions.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Career Decisions02:10 The Importance of Self-Assessment19:12 Identifying Energizing Tasks21:17 Understanding Burnout and Misalignment24:13 Exploring Career Options26:17 The 'And' Philosophy in Career Choices28:22 Temporary vs. Permanent Career Changes30:58 Scenario Mapping for Career Decisions34:13 Introduction to Curate Your Career34:49 Engagement and Community BuildingKeywordsmuseum careers, career coaching, professional development, job satisfaction, museum professionals, career strategies, work-life balance, job market, self-advocacy, career transitions | — | ||||||
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