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【聊了什么The What】 这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街，但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演，这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇，用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro Pascal饰演的自由派市长在这个巴掌大的新墨西哥小镇展开政治对决，而真正的赢家却是那个从头到尾都面目模糊的科技巨头——他们要在这里建数据中心。我们从这部极具争议性的电影聊开去，探讨了BLM运动的社交媒体化、取消文化的游戏规则、以及阴谋论如何在小镇邻里间传播。最终发现，当所有人都在网上吵成一团的时候，真正的危机——AI和大科技公司——已经悄悄占领了现实世界。 This episode we dove into Ari Aster's latest film "Eddington"—a movie that'll make you want to throw things at the screen, but also can't stop you from obsessively analyzing every frame. The director behind "Midsommar" and "Hereditary" sets his sights on a fictional small American town during the early pandemic chaos of May 2020, wrapping a horror story about social media tearing communities apart in Western film genre. Joaquin Phoenix's old-school sheriff Joe Cross goes head-to-head with Pedro Pascal's liberal mayor in this tiny New Mexico town, while the real winner turns out to be the faceless tech giant that's been planning to build a data center there all along. We used this deeply polarizing film to unpack everything from how BLM got weaponized on social media, to the toxic rules of cancel culture, to how conspiracy theories spread like wildfire through small-town neighbor networks. The ending is both alarming and defeatist: while everyone was busy fighting online, the real crisis—AI and Big Tech—had already quietly taken over. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 - Vibe Shift：从Covid到现在的时代精神转向 02:32 - Ari Aster这一次拍了个什么片？ 06:45 - 小镇警长和自由派精英的对决导演拉偏架了吗？ 15:45 - BLM运动的社交媒体化和"good trouble"的商品化 22:22 - 社交媒体游戏规则如何让所有人"吃相难看" 34:24 - 创伤如何成为舆论场的货币 38:55 - 小蓝的"假新闻田野调查" 45:19 - 电影结局的虚无主义倾向 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp"彩蛋 52:18 - AI数据中心对美国小镇的真实影响 58:02 - 艺术家有权创作"残忍"艺术吗？ 1:10:00 - 爱丁顿里的真实社会议题 00:00 - Vibe Shift: Zeitgeist transformation from pandemic to now 02:32 - Film plot overview: Political showdown in a New Mexico town 06:45 - Did Ari Aster put his thumb on the scale in the fight between the sheriff and the mayor 15:45 - The social media-ization of BLM and commodification of "good trouble" 22:22 - How social media rules make everyone look bad 34:24 - How trauma becomes currency in the discourse 38:55 - Xiao Lan's "fake news field research" 45:19 - The film's nihilistic ending 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp" Easter egg 52:18 - Real impact of AI data centers on American small towns 58:02 - Do artists have the right to create "cruel" art? 1:10:00 - Real social issues plaiguing today's America in "Eddington" 【拓展链接 The Links】 Film Colossus关于"Solid Gold Magikarp"异常标记的分析文章 纽约时报关于数据中心对社区用水影响的报道 Naomi Klein《Doppelganger》 Matthew Yglesias"The Great Awokening" 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买杯咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 HBO 新片Mountainhead是《继承之战》编剧 Jesse Armstrong 的导演初作。这一次，他把镜头从东海岸的传媒财阀转向了西海岸的科技巨头。 四位科技界巨头和曾经的好友在犹他州的豪华山庄度周末，外面的世界却因一款 AI 生成工具制造的政治假新闻陷入混乱。他们坐在山顶的别墅中，讨论着权力、技术与人类未来，以及如何延长自己的生命，甚至抵御死亡，上传意识。节目中，我们谈到了科技精英的傲慢与脆弱、有效加速主义（e/acc）在硅谷的兴起、从 All In Podcast 到特朗普就职典礼的科技圈政治野心，以及为什么现实比电影还科幻，却让创作者越来越难以讲述。从HBO关于科技的剧集大火的Silicon Valley到这部同样关于讲述科技圈内部故事的Mountainhead只有短短几年过去了。而太多改变已经发生。 Mountainhead, HBO’s new film, marks the directorial debut of Succession writer Jesse Armstrong. This time, he shifts the camera from East Coast media dynasties to West Coast tech titans. The story follows four former friends and tech moguls spending a weekend at a luxury mountain estate in Utah, while the outside world descends into chaos—triggered by political disinformation generated by an AI tool they helped create. From the comfort of their hilltop villa, they debate power, technology, the future of humanity, and how to prolong their own lives—even resisting death by uploading their consciousness. In this episode, we talk about the arrogance and fragility of tech elites, the rise of Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) in Silicon Valley, the political ambitions of the tech world—from the All-In Podcast to Trump’s inauguration—and why reality has become more sci-fi than fiction, making it harder than ever for creators to tell these stories. Only a few years separate HBO’s Silicon Valley and Mountainhead, but in that short span, the world—and tech—has changed in ways no one could have scripted. 【时间轴 The When】 03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了 08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们？ 15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变：从商业逻辑到宗教信仰 32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief” 42:30 渴望权力，却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化 54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕 03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie 08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls 15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief 32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs” 42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility 54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant 【拓展链接 The Links】 小华提到的漫画：“参议院的老板们”——1889 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 在一个充满官僚主义的银河帝国中，革命究竟意味着什么？当理想主义者遭遇现实的残酷，"正义"与"邪恶"的界限是否真的那么清晰？从Luthen的革命理念到Dedra的极权思维，剧集以令人不安的方式探讨了权力、反抗与人性的本质。 革命的本质是什么？它需要什么样的代价和牺牲？从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象，到帝国完美官僚的非人性，再到太空法国的群众运动，《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与现实之间的复杂关系。 Andor Season 2 is a unique work in the Star Wars universe that features no lightsabers, Force powers, or chosen ones, instead focusing on marginalized characters and the imperial bureaucracy. The series tells the story of how the Empire was overthrown, showcasing the desperation of ordinary people, cracks within the Empire, and the real cost of rebellion. As "a prequel to a prequel" of the original Star Wars trilogy, Andor Season 2 ends by seamlessly transitioning into the film Rogue One, revealing these characters' ultimate fates. The show explores several thought-provoking themes: Is the nature of revolution romantic idealism or bloody reality? How does the Empire's propaganda machine justify colonization and genocide through stereotypes and inciting hatred? How do characters like Luther and Dedra represent different facets of revolution and oppression? Perhaps most importantly, in an age of rampant social media where everyone claims to possess "the truth," how can we discern the reality of history? 【时间轴 The When】 3:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 7:14 展开说说 The Oner（第二集2）Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从？Where does Hollywood go from here? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【2025戛纳电影节 2025 Cannes Film Festival】 节目开始之前，和大家说一声，疲惫娇娃的几个女的已经空降戛纳参加电影节了！请关注我们的同名小红书账号看来自戛纳的更新。 We have landed in Cannes for the film festival! Follow us on Xiaohongshu for more updates from Cannes. 【聊了什么 The What】 本期疲惫娇娃，我们聊的是2024年的电影Conclave ——一部设定在教皇去世之后、围绕选出新一任教皇展开的电影。在这部由Edward Berger执导、Ralph Fiennes主演的作品中，观众得以窥见那场始终被神秘包围的梵蒂冈教皇选举：密室中的拉票、权力的计算、秘密的揭露，以及制度对个人的塑形与反噬。 我们从电影谈起，延伸到对天主教会体制的讨论：它如何用神圣维系秩序，又如何将改革压制在传统之下。影片中的主角们不仅是宗教人物，更是复杂的政治人类；而那些隐于画面边缘的修女、工作人员，则承载着最深的情感张力与结构性的沉默。 节目中也会提到最近现实中那位“美国出生的教皇”所引发的舆论回响，从中对照出Conclave所描绘的制度困境与文化裂缝。在一个讲求现代化的时代，信仰、怀疑、服从与转变之间的冲突从未停止，反而愈加微妙。在这集播客，我们也借着Conclave，用元视角反思了我们几个主播过去几年的信仰和布道。 In this episode of Cyberpink, we discuss the 2024 film Conclave — a story set in the aftermath of a pope’s death, centered on the secretive process of electing his successor. Directed by Edward Berger and starring Ralph Fiennes, the film offers a rare look inside the Vatican’s cloistered world: backroom deals, power games, hidden truths, and the way institutions shape — and consume — the individuals within them. Starting with the film, we move into a broader conversation about the structure of the Catholic Church: how it uses sacredness to maintain order, and how tradition often suppresses the possibility of reform. The protagonists in Conclave are not just religious figures — they are deeply political beings. And those who remain on the margins of the screen — nuns, aides, staff — carry the film’s quietest, yet most intense emotional weight. We also touch on the recent real-world election of the first U.S.-born pope and the media discourse surrounding it, drawing parallels with Conclave's portrayal of institutional tension and cultural fracture. In a world increasingly shaped by modernity, the conflicts between faith, doubt, obedience, and transformation have only grown more intricate. We also used Conclave as a lens to go meta, to reflect our journeys as long-term podcasters, examining our beliefs and evangelism over the past few years. 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 — Conclave电影本影也没想到自己会因教皇方济各逝世而意外获得现实相关性，成为2025年最火的电影 03:50 — 现实中的美国出生的教宗Pope Leo XIV承认在真正的Conclave前也看了电影 04:40 — 什么是“Conclave”？拉丁语意为“上锁的房间”——一种自13世纪起流传至今的选教皇仪式 06:15 — 黑烟与白烟：那些宣布教皇当选的古老烟雾信号，也曾锁门限食以逼出结果 11:30 — 初观感：神秘又幽默，教廷政治竟然有点像校园食堂地缘政治问题？主角Lawrence像一个疲惫又需要收拾烂摊子的VP 19:13 — Lawrence想辞职，前任教皇说他是个“农场经理”而非“牧羊人”——讨论教皇制度管理与灵性角色的张力。疲惫娇娃进入meta状态，反思自己过去几年的信仰和布教 30:30 — 影片中Lawrence的一句台词引发共鸣：“确定性是团结的大敌，是宽容的死敌”——它如何映射当代的分裂与政治疲劳？疲惫娇娃继续meta 50:00 — 位关键女性角色：Sister Agnes，一个在结构之外但洞察深刻的“隐身者”。以及为什么我们要反复说女性角色 01:03:10 — 大结局讨论：一个意想不到的人选成为教皇，我们如何解读这个“神迹”。 00:00 — The film Conclave likely never expected to gain such sudden real-world relevance after the death of Pope Francis, becoming one of the most talked-about movies of 2025 03:50 — In real life, the newly elected U.S.-born Pope Leo XIV admitted he watched Conclave before the actual conclave took place 04:40 — What is a "Conclave"? The term comes from Latin, meaning “a locked room” — referring to the centuries-old papal election ritual that dates back to the 13th century 06:15 — Black smoke or white smoke: the ancient visual signals used to announce papal election results. In earlier centuries, cardinals were even locked in and given limited food to force a decision 11:30 — First impressions: the film is mysterious yet funny. The political dynamics of the Vatican strangely resemble cafeteria geopolitics. The main character, Lawrence, comes across like an exhausted VP cleaning up institutional messes 19:13 — Lawrence wants to resign. The previous Pope calls him a “farm manager” rather than a “shepherd” — sparking a discussion on the tension between institutional maintenance and spiritual leadership. The hosts go meta, reflecting on their own relationship to faith and public engagement in recent years 30:30 — A line from Lawrence resonates: “Certainty is the great enemy of unity, the deadly enemy of tolerance.” The hosts explore how this speaks to contemporary political polarization and collective fatigue — and continue the meta reflection 50:00 — A key female character is introduced: Sister Agnes, a perceptive “invisible” figure operating outside the official structure. The hosts dig into why they keep returning to the role of women in the film 01:03:10 — Final act discussion: an unexpected figure is elected Pope — how do we interpret this so-called “miracle”? 【拓展链接 The Links】 Inside the Politics of the Papal Conclave – The New York Times (May 4, 2025) How a Film About the Pope Became Reality – The New York Times (April 21, 2025) Campaigning for the Papacy? Vatican Grapples With the Unspoken – The New York Times (April 28, 2025) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

【疲惫广播 What's New】 上周疲惫娇娃的阿花和一芳受邀参加了在东京举办的星战盛典，请大家移步小红书看我们的精彩采访和现场直击！ 《安多》第二季也即将开播！欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目！ 【聊了什么 The What】 「白莲花度假村」第三季是今年在美国极具文化影响力的一部剧集，由HBO出品，Mike White（麦克白）导演编剧并且制作。第三季将故事转移至泰国，铺垫了整整八集沉重气氛给天堂版的背景增添了一丝诡异和不详。北卡莱罗纳州Ratliff家族的表面光鲜与内里腐朽；Rick与Chelsea这对灵魂伴侣背后隐藏的深渊；三位闺蜜之间那微妙平衡的友谊和人生；第一季返场人物Belinda与Greg/Gary的命运再度交织；所有人物的结局都像一场精心设计的因果轮回。 在这个看似奢华的度假天堂里，每个人都被困在自己的身份牢笼中无法脱身。当暴力事件最终爆发，我们是否能从这些角色的命运中看到自己的影子？信仰的缺失是否就是现代人痛苦的根源？这部剧巧妙借鉴佛教寓言，融入业力、痛苦之源贪嗔痴等等概念，为观看的我们提供了一面审视自我的镜子。 这集播客小蓝和一芳请来朋友阿点一起聊聊这部让我们和全网观众欲罢不能的电视剧。 注意：本节目完全剧透！我们在讨论中尽量让没看过的听众也能听懂。如果你已经看过可以跳过梗概，如果还想看而且介意剧透建议收藏，之后再听。 本期嘉宾：阿点（欢迎订阅阿点的newsletter） "The White Lotus" Season 3 is one of the most culturally influential series this year, produced by HBO and directed, written, and produced by Mike White. The third season moves the story to Thailand, building up a heavy atmosphere over eight episodes that adds a touch of the strange and ominous to the paradise-like setting. The seemingly perfect but inwardly corrupt Ratliff family from North Carolina; the abyss hidden behind the "soulmate" relationship of Rick and Chelsea; the delicately balanced friendship and lives of three girlfriends; the intertwined destinies of Season 1 returning characters Belinda and Greg/Gary - all characters' endings seem like a carefully designed karmic cycle. Compared to the previous two seasons, the third season is more of a philosophical journey about identity, desire, and redemption, drawing on the director's own research and thinking about Buddhism, skillfully incorporating concepts such as karma and the three poisons (greed, anger, and delusion) into the plot, providing us with a mirror to examine modern society and human nature. In this podcast episode, Xiaolan and Yifang invite their friend Adian to discuss this TV series that has made us and viewers across the internet unable to stop watching. Note: This episode contains complete spoilers! We try to make our discussion understandable to listeners who haven't seen the show. If you've already watched it, you can skip the plot summary; if you still want to watch and mind spoilers, we suggest bookmarking this episode to listen to later. Guest: A Dian (Subscribe to her newsletter) 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:43 看过的可以跳过：剧透警告与人物介绍 00:08:42 白莲花这一季和往季的区别，观影第一印象 00:18:08 全网出圈的《白莲花度假村》梗，杜克大学“紧急公关” 00:25:23 三位闺蜜：女性友谊背后的嫉妒、理解和爱；为什么Laurie那段话让我们哇哇大哭 00:35:02 美国南方老钱核心家庭的光鲜和腐朽 00:53:43 Rick和Chelsea，救赎与被救赎的佛教寓言 01:20:51 第三世界男性与第一世界女性的权力关系 01:26:39 麦克白的创作意图：不以道德说教为目的的叙事 00:03:43 You can skip if you've already watched: Spoiler warning and character introductions 00:08:42 Discussing how this season of White Lotus differs from previous seasons, and first impressions 00:18:08 Viral White Lotus memes, Duke University's “emergency PR response” 00:25:23 The three girlfriends: jealousy, understanding and love in female friendships; why Laurie's speech made us ugly cry 00:35:02 Troubled Southern old-money nuclear family and sibling dynamics 00:53:43 Rick and Chelsea, a Buddhist parable of redemption and being redeemed 01:20:51 Power dynamics between Third World men and First World women 01:26:39 Mike White's creative intentions: narrative without moral preaching 【拓展链接 The Links】 020 | 「白莲花度假村」：出淤泥而全染的人间群像 "The White Lotus 2": a scan of reality 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【听众专属福利】 一起订阅《三联生活周刊》数字刊会员年卡吧！ 🎉 疲惫娇娃专属渠道粉丝下单享受六折优惠🎉

【聊了什么 The What】 「影后」是一部深入探讨女性友谊、职场关系和娱乐圈现实的台湾剧集。通过几位不同年龄阶段女演员的视角，该剧以META的方式反映了台湾娱乐业的变迁与挑战。 这不只是一部简单的"宫斗剧"，而是一部贴近现实的职场剧。剧中几位中年甚至老年女性角色的感情和人际关系发展，展现了人生不同阶段的成长可能性。薛亚之与周凡的关系打破了观众对角色与演员的刻板印象，也把女性之间嫉妒和爱并存的关系刻画的十分细腻。 我们聊到了从琼瑶剧到偶像剧再到现代台剧，这些不同时期的台湾影视作品如何塑造了我们对爱情和生活的理解。「影后」作为新一代台剧，不只讲述了演艺圈的故事，也折射出社会对女性期望的变化，成为台湾文化界照见自己的一面镜子。 “Born for the Spotlight” is a Taiwanese drama series that deeply explores female friendships, workplace relationships, and the realities of the entertainment industry. Through the perspectives of actresses at different age stages, the series reflects the changes and challenges of Taiwan's entertainment industry in a meta way. This isn't just a simple "palace drama," but a workplace drama that closely mirrors reality. The emotional and interpersonal relationship development of several middle-aged and even elderly female characters in the show demonstrates the possibilities for growth at different stages of life. The relationship between Xue Yazhi and Zhou Fan breaks viewers' stereotypes about characters and actresses, and also portrays the coexistence of jealousy and love between women with great subtlety. We discussed how Taiwanese media from different periods—from Chiung Yao dramas to idol dramas to modern Taiwanese series—have shaped our understanding of love and life. "The Actress," as a new generation of Taiwanese drama, not only tells the story of the entertainment industry but also reflects changing societal expectations of women, becoming a mirror for Taiwan's cultural industry to see itself. 【本期嘉宾 Guest】 东尼，行星酒馆主播（一个在动荡时代里，分享离散故事的华语播客。） 【五月天购票链接】 今年3月29日，五月天成团25周年“回到那一天”演唱会将登陆拉斯维加斯忠实体育场（Allegiant Stadium）。这是五月天北美巡演的唯一一场，请记住，是唯一一场，也是华语歌手在北美开唱的最大规模和最高规格。演出将斥资千万美金打造，从巨型五球华丽舞美，到环场巴士，带你体验原汁原味的五月天魅力。 3月29日这个日子也很特别，是五月天正式成军的纪念日。从七号公园初次登场的那个三月，到拉斯维加斯五万人共享的星空，我们一起坐上时光机，穿越回忆任意门，体验一趟精彩万分的旅程，回到属于你和五月天的那一天。 无论你来自哪个国家，无论你是听着五月天歌长大的老粉，还是刚刚喜欢上他们音乐的新粉，这场演唱会，都不容错过。 请访问iemshowplace.com或Ticketmaster，或点击这个链接购票锁定席位： 购票链接：点击这里 VIP套餐还包含专属观赏区、快速通道和限量纪念礼包，值得收藏。 加入五月天，永远不会太迟。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：cyberpinkfm@gmail.com 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: cyberpinkfm@gmail.com Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:54《影后》如何处理群像，一个松散的女演员”圈子“ 00:11:20 胖姐为什么戳中了我们的泪点 00:13:48 柯丽芬和TB迟来的道歉和原谅 00:22:28 周凡和薛亚之之间不被行业和社会支持的非性缘共生关系 00:34:10 欧美和东亚女演员的“角斗场” 00:35:06 史爱玛的性格刻画的好吗？她的问题是太年轻太想要吗？ 00:45:26 《影后》又新又旧的感情和婚姻观念 00:51:33 台湾娱乐的文化产品怎么养大了我们，构筑了我们的感情观 00:58:50 大S去世与我们摄入信息时代的变迁 01:05:35 新的时代让我们获得了什么、失去了什么 01:07:58 大小S以及台娱“又新又旧”的黄金时代 00:03:54 How "Born into the spotlight" handles its ensemble cast, a loose "circle" of female actresses 00:11:20 Why the "pangjie" character touched our heartstrings 00:13:48 Ke Lifen and TB's belated apology and forgiveness 00:22:28 The non-sexual symbiotic relationship between Zhou Fan and Xue Yazhi that isn't supported by the industry or society 00:34:10 The "arena" for Western and East Asian actresses 00:35:06 Is Shi Aima's character well-portrayed? Is her problem that she's too young and too ambitious? 00:45:26 "Born into the spotlight" and its modern and traditional views on relationships and marriage 00:51:33 How Taiwan's entertainment cultural products raised us and built our views on relationships 00:58:50 Barbie Tsu's passing and the changes in how we consume information 01:05:35 What the new era has given us and what we've lost 01:07:58 Barbie and Dee Hsu, and the "both new and old" golden era of Taiwanese entertainment 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!