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Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr David Szpilman
Jun 22, 2026
Unknown duration
Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Will Koon
Jun 19, 2026
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Deep Dive: An Interview with David and Tia Samuel
May 29, 2026
42m 37s
Deep Dive: An Interview with Robin Baird
May 25, 2026
1h 01m 37s
Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Hanna Van Waart
May 22, 2026
53m 58s
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| 6/22/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr David Szpilman | Episode Notes June 4, 2026: Dr David Szpilman: Drowning Is Preventable: What if one of the biggest barriers to preventing drowning isn't a lack of rescue skills, but how we think about drowning itself? Physician, researcher, and drowning prevention pioneer Dr. David Szpilman joins Deep Dive Into Water Safety to discuss the science, data, and lifesaving strategies that have helped reshape drowning prevention around the world and what Hawaiʻi can learn from them. Dr. David Szpilman is a physician, founder of SOBRASA (the Brazilian Lifesaving Society), creator of the internationally recognized Szpilman Drowning Classification System, and one of the world's leading voices in drowning prevention. In this episode of Deep Dive Into Water Safety, Dr. Szpilman discusses why drowning should be viewed as a preventable process rather than an unavoidable accident. He explains the importance of using consistent terminology, including moving away from outdated terms such as 'near drowning,' to improve data collection, treatment, and prevention efforts worldwide. The conversation explores the drowning timeline, the Drowning Chain of Survival, and the critical role ventilation plays in drowning resuscitation. Dr. Szpilman shares research demonstrating how quickly respiratory arrest can progress to cardiac arrest and discusses recent guidance emphasizing the importance of ventilation in drowning response. The discussion also examines the gap between research and frontline lifeguard operations, highlighting the need for better incident reporting and more detailed data to guide prevention strategies. Dr. Szpilman argues that collecting the right information is often more important than conducting more studies if communities hope to identify effective interventions. Other topics include water competency, adolescent and male risk-taking behavior, experiential water safety education, the role of lifeguards as first responders, and the challenges Hawaiʻi faces with visitor snorkeling fatalities. The conversation explores how targeted education, improved signage, better data systems, and stronger collaboration between researchers and practitioners can help reduce drowning deaths. Throughout the episode, Dr. Szpilman returns to a central message that has guided decades of work in Brazil and around the world: Drowning is preventable when we understand the risks, prepare people for the environment, and intervene before an emergency occurs. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
| 6/19/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Will Koon | Episode Notes June 1, 2026: Dr Will Koon: Beyond Warning Signs: Rethinking Drowning Prevention in Hawaiʻi Dr. Will Koon is a drowning prevention researcher with Royal Life Saving Australia whose work focuses on understanding who is drowning, why they are drowning, and how communities can reduce risk through better data and targeted interventions. He has been involved in Australia's National Water Safety Strategy and is part of a broader effort that has helped drive significant reductions in drowning over the past two decades. What makes Dr. Koon's perspective particularly valuable is his emphasis on systems thinking. Rather than focusing solely on hazards or education, he examines how data, behavior, policy, tourism, lifeguard services, and community partnerships work together to influence drowning risk. One of his central messages is that effective drowning prevention is not simply about warning people about hazards it is about preparing people and systems before they encounter risk. What If We've Been Asking the Wrong Question? For years, water safety efforts have focused on warning people about hazards. But a recent discussion with international experts suggests a different approach: instead of asking how we warn people, we should be asking how we prepare people and systems before they ever encounter risk. Effective prevention requires understanding who is drowning, where, when, and why, and then designing solutions that fit those specific risks.The Data Challenge. Another major theme was data. While Hawaiʻi's drowning rate is among the highest in the United States, participants noted that the numbers we typically discuss only tell part of the story. Non-fatal drowning incidents may outnumber fatal drownings many times over, yet these events are often poorly tracked despite their significant physical, emotional, and financial impacts. The discussion also highlighted a challenge unique to Hawaiʻi. Nearly half of drowning deaths involve visitors, and snorkeling fatalities are heavily concentrated among tourists.Drowning Is a Systems Problem. The group repeatedly returned to the idea that drowning is a systems problem, not simply an individual problem. Australia's progress in reducing childhood drownings has been attributed to multiple strategies working together: pool fencing, parent education, supervision campaigns, early water familiarization, public awareness, and policy changes.Building Water Competence. The discussion also examined Junior Lifeguard programs and water competence education. Creating a Culture of Safety. Experts suggested that meaningful progress may come not from more warnings but from creating social norms around safe behavior. Perhaps the most important takeaway was that drowning prevention is not primarily about responding to emergencies. It is about creating conditions that prevent emergencies from occurring in the first place. But the strongest lesson from this discussion is that drowning prevention begins long before anyone enters the water. The question is no longer:How do we teach water safety?The question is:How do we make water safety part of who we are, not just something we teach? Hawaiʻi is surrounded by water. The ocean is where we play, work, gather, celebrate, and connect. If that's true, then water safety can't be an add-on. It must become part of our culture.Because lasting change will not come from a single program, sign, or safety message.It will come when understanding the ocean, respecting its power, and making safe choices around water become part of everyday life in Hawaiʻi. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
| 5/29/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with David and Tia Samuel✨ | water safetydrowning prevention+5 | David SamuelTia Samuel | Brighton Surf Life Saving ClubRNLI | Brighton, EnglandHawaii+1 | drowning preventionwater safety education+5 | — | 42m 37s | |
| 5/25/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Robin Baird✨ | marine biologymarine mammals+4 | Robin Baird | Cascadia Research CollectiveThe Lives of Hawai'is Dolphins and Whales natural History and Conservation | Hawaiian waters | marine mammalsdolphins+5 | — | 1h 01m 37s | |
| 5/22/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Hanna Van Waart✨ | water safetysnorkeling+3 | Hanna Van Waart | University of AucklandCPSC+2 | — | full-face snorkel maskshypoxemia+3 | — | 53m 58s | |
| 5/18/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Alissa Magrum, 2026✨ | drowning preventionwater safety+4 | Alissa Magrum | National Drowning Prevention Alliance | — | drowningwater competency+5 | — | 1h 19m 56s | |
| 5/15/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Drasko Bogdanovic and Dr. Justin Sempsrott✨ | drowning rescuefirst responders+4 | Drasko BogdanovicDr. Justin Sempsrott | San Luis ObispoHawaiʻi | Costa RicaMexico+1 | drowningrescue training+6 | — | 1h 18m 53s | |
| 5/11/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Ralph Goto✨ | snorkeling safetyocean safety+3 | Ralph Goto | City and County of Honolulu Ocean Safety Division | Hawaiʻi | snorkelingocean safety+5 | — | 47m 36s | |
| 5/8/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Mark Haimona✨ | water safetyIndigenous education+3 | Mark Haimona | — | Aotearoa New ZealandHawaiʻi | water safetyMāori+5 | — | 1h 25m 25s | |
| 5/1/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Morgan and Adrian Mayhew✨ | water safetydrowning prevention+3 | Dr. Patrick MorganAdrian Mayhew | His Majesty’s CoastguardSurf Life Saving Great Britain | United Kingdom | drowning definitionslifeguards+5 | — | 1h 32m 32s | |
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| 4/28/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: A Recap and Interview with Mayor Derek SK Kawakami✨ | water safetyinterview+3 | Derek S.K. Kawakami | Kauaʻi Lifeguard AssociationKauaʻi Community Radio - KKCR | KauaʻiOkinawa | water safetyKauaʻi+5 | — | 53m 37s | |
| 4/15/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Allison Schaefers✨ | water safetydrowning prevention+4 | Allison Schaefers | Hawaiʻi Water Safety CoalitionHonolulu Star-Advertiser | Hawaiʻi | drowningHawaiʻi+6 | — | 1h 04m 59s | |
| 4/1/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Dr Laura Trapani✨ | water safetysnorkeling+3 | Dr Laura Trapani | IRCCS Burlo Garofolo children’s HospitalUniversity of Trieste+1 | Italy | full-face snorkeling maskshypercapnia+3 | — | 41m 38s | |
| 3/27/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Colleen Saunders✨ | drowning preventionwater safety+4 | Dr. Colleen Saunders | Life Saving South AfricaAfrican Journal of Emerging Medicine | Big BayCape Town+2 | drowningwater safety+5 | — | 1h 19m 47s | |
| 3/13/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Rob Brander✨ | rip currentsbeach safety+3 | Rob Brander | University of New South WalesUNSW Beach Safety Research Group+2 | — | rip currentsbeach safety+3 | — | 1h 03m 56s | |
| 3/9/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: Taishi Otono✨ | ocean safetydrowning prevention+3 | Taishi Otono | Hawaii Lifeguard AssociationNorth Shore ocean safety professionals | Okinawa, JapanHawaiʻi | ocean safetydrowning prevention+5 | — | 33m 54s | |
| 3/7/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with ILCIRA✨ | aquatic safetymental health+4 | Dr. Jaz LawesDr. Sam Fien+1 | Surf Life Saving AustraliaCQUniversity Australia+1 | — | lifeguardsmental health+5 | — | 1h 15m 14s | |
| 2/20/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Jamie MacMahan✨ | rip currentsoceanography+3 | Jamie McMahan | Naval Postgraduate School | HawaiʻiMonterey, California | rip currentsocean safety+3 | — | 1h 05m 53s | |
| 2/11/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Ian Couch✨ | water safetyathlete culture+3 | Ian Couch | Worldʻs Toughest Row | KauaʻiMonterey, CA+1 | water safetyrowing+3 | — | 41m 42s | |
| 2/7/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with John Kalei Clarke✨ | water safetyHawaiian culture+3 | John Kaleimakaliʻi Thornton Clarke | Hawaii Department of Health | — | watermanMaui swim+3 | — | 51m 51s | |
| 2/3/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Nicki Roderick✨ | water safetyfree diving+3 | Niki Roderick | Free Dive Safe | Hawaii | water safetyfree diving+4 | — | 30m 16s | |
| 1/29/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Chris Pico | Episode Notes Margaret invites North Shore lifeguard Chris Pico in studio to share about the importance of water safety from the lifeguard’s perspective and to share about the free app Pulse Point. What’s charming is that Chris’ daughter, Harper, was in studio as well, watching her show and petting the dog and you can hear it a bit. Chris said, before we started the show, that he sought out Pulse Point on Kauaʻi for her. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
| 1/25/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Duane DeSoto | Episode Notes July 18, 2025 Full On-Air Show: Duane DeSoto called in to the studio. He is instrumental in the Hawaii nonprofit Nā Kama Kai, which focuses on connecting keiki to the ʻāina and the kai. Duane is working hard to promote a safe water culture among the people of Hawaii and his message is broad and applicable for all water people. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with Drasko Bogdanovic | Episode Notes Drasko Bogdanovic Reframing Water Safety Drasko Bogdanovic is a California State Parks ocean lifeguard, flight paramedic, educator, and the founder of The Lifeguard Project, a national storytelling and advocacy platform focused on reframing how lifeguarding and drowning prevention are understood. His work aligns closely with Hawaiʻi, widely recognized as the epicenter of water safety, where the ocean demands exceptional expertise, vigilance, and cultural awareness. Drawing from frontline experience, Drasko approaches drowning prevention not as a series of isolated accidents, but as a predictable and preventable public health issue. Through The Lifeguard Project, he emphasizes that prevention happens long before a rescue, elevating the role of lifeguards as professional risk managers and educators, a perspective long held in Hawaiʻi. In the interview, Drasko stressed the urgent need to modernize water safety messaging. Traditional signs and warnings alone are no longer effective, particularly in visitor-heavy destinations like Hawaiʻi. He advocates for human-centered, digital storytelling that uses authentic lifeguard voices to cut through modern noise and connect emotionally with the public. The conversation also highlighted the importance of global collaboration, linking Hawaiʻi with water safety leaders in California, Australia, the UK, and beyond. The guiding philosophy of The Lifeguard Project, “By Lifeguards, For Life,” reflects a belief that the most effective drowning prevention strategies are shaped by those closest to the water and strengthened through shared knowledge worldwide. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
| 1/16/26 | ![]() Deep Dive: An Interview with George Centeio | Episode Notes January 14, 2026. George Centeio works with the Hawaiʻi State Department of Education as an Educational Specialist for Physical Education, supporting schools across the state in helping students build healthy, active lives. His work connects physical education, student well-being, and real-world safety, especially important in a place like Hawaiʻi, where water is part of everyday life. In this conversation, we talk about how education, particularly physical education, can help keep Hawaiʻi’s keiki safer in and around the water. It’s a discussion grounded in the reality of growing up surrounded by ocean, rivers, and pools, and why water awareness is truly a life skill here. George explains why water safety is about much more than swimming lessons. It’s about understanding conditions, recognizing risk, knowing your limits, and learning how to respond when something goes wrong. These are skills that build confidence, not fear—and when they’re taught early and reinforced over time, they can prevent tragedies. We also explore how schools can play a meaningful role by weaving water safety into education standards and everyday learning. Physical education offers a natural place for these lessons, especially when schools partner with lifeguards, community groups, and programs like Nā Kama Kai on the west side of Oʻahu, bringing learning out of the classroom and into real environments. The takeaway is hopeful and clear: drowning is preventable, and education is one of our strongest tools. By starting early, working together, and connecting learning to life in Hawaiʻi, we can better prepare our keiki to enjoy the water safely and create a stronger culture of water safety for everyone. Support Deep Dive Into Water Safety by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/deep-dive-into-water-safety | — | ||||||
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