Defense Unicorns, A Podcast

Lauren Knausenberger and Bob Ritchie of SAIC join host Rob Slaughter, CEO of Defense Unicorns, to talk about what it takes to drive meaningful innovation in defense at scale. With roots in both the Pentagon and SAIC, they unpack how mission-first thinking, public-private collaboration, and a deep respect for open ecosystems are reshaping the future of national security. From startup partnerships to acquisition reform, this episode blends grounded insight with big-picture perspective.

On this episode of The Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively sits down with Case Wylie, Software Engineering Lead, to talk all things Pepr—a TypeScript-based operator framework reshaping secure software delivery in air-gapped environments. Case shares how Pepr streamlines Kubernetes operations while empowering developers to move fast without sacrificing safety. From nightclub metaphors to GitOps integration, this conversation unpacks how standardizing security posture can reduce friction and boost team velocity. They also explore the importance of open-source collaboration and what it takes to build tools that scale across some of the world’s most demanding environments.

On this episode of The Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively chats with Bryan Finster, Distinguished Engineer at Defense Unicorns, about the real keys to delivering software faster, safer, and smarter. Bryan challenges the myths of DevSecOps, arguing that rigid frameworks and bureaucratic processes don’t create security—they create fragility. Instead, he advocates for continuous delivery, rapid feedback loops, and a culture of ownership to drive better outcomes for users and engineers. Drawing from his experiences in large-scale enterprises and government systems, Bryan explains why adaptability, not process-heavy oversight, is the key to success. If you’re ready for a fresh perspective on DevSecOps, Agile, and leadership, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

In this Defense Unicorns episode, Col. Sean Kern, Director of Cyberspace Operations Strategy at SAIC, shares insights from his transition from military to civilian leadership and the vital role of culture in DevSecOps. He highlights the importance of balancing automation with human judgment in cybersecurity, stressing that strategic oversight is crucial in high-stakes decisions. Kern also discusses the need for unified frameworks across military branches to strengthen cybersecurity operations, emphasizing that adaptability and speed are essential for defense against evolving threats.

In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, we chat with Eddie Zaneski, the tech lead for open source at Defense Unicorns. Eddie shares his journey from an aspiring math teacher to a leading figure in the tech industry, discussing his contributions to Kubernetes and his work on software supply chain security. We also explore the security of open-source communities, the evolution of software deployment, and Eddie’s passion for leveraging government funding to support open-source projects.

In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, we sit down with Kurt Sanger, a retired Marine and former Deputy Staff Judge Advocate at US Cyber Command, to discuss his journey from military justice to cyber operations law. Kurt shares insights on the evolution of cyber partnerships, the challenges of providing legal counsel in military operations, and the rapid transition of cyber operations from theory to practice. He also explores the interplay between technology, law, and international relations in shaping future conflicts.

In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively engages with Luke Shabro, a former intelligence specialist and current Army Growth Lead at Defense Unicorns, in a comprehensive dialogue focusing on Luke’s journey from the navy to a pivotal role in shaping the future of military operations. They delve into Luke’s experiences with DevSecOps, cybersecurity, and how his work in intelligence and organizational transformation has contributed to anticipating and preparing for future warfare challenges. The conversation highlights the importance of innovative thinking and collaboration across the defense sector to proactively address the evolving landscape of global security and technological advancement.

This podcast episode features a candid conversation with Rebecca Lively, former Deputy Director at the Air Force's Shadows Edge Software Factory, now part of Defense Unicorns. Rebecca shares her unique career journey, from an impulsive decision to attend law school, to intellectual property litigation, and eventually leading roles within the military’s cyber and software development sectors. She discusses the challenges and realizations she faced in various roles, including her struggle with imposter syndrome and the importance of diversity and humility in tech. The episode also delves into broader issues like some flaws within the government’s hiring system, the impact of diversity on software development, and the shift towards creating a more inclusive and innovative work environment.

In this episode titled we delve into the extraordinary journey of Nicolas Chaillan, who started as a teen software developer, revolutionized PHP adoption in enterprises, pioneered secure e-commerce in Europe, and went on to found and scale multiple companies across the globe, to include becoming the Department of the Air Force’s First Chief Software Officer. Listen as Nic shares insights from his early days of building game server hosting companies and e-commerce websites, navigating the challenges of being a young entrepreneur in a rapidly evolving tech landscape, and transitioning into a pivotal role in the U.S. Department of Defense. This story is not just about technological innovation, but also about resilience, adaptability, and the drive to make a significant impact on national security. Join us as we uncover the lessons learned from bridging the worlds of startups and cybersecurity, and how embracing change and seizing opportunities can lead from teenage coding projects to leading tech initiatives in defense. Connect with Nic on LinkedIn.

Join us on this episode of Defense Unicorns as host Robert Slaughter sits down with Col Rhet Turnbull, Deputy Director, Space Systems Integration Office, to discuss the significant shifts in the Department of Defense. After two decades of counterterrorism focus, the spotlight is shifting back to the looming threats posed by global superpowers. Col Turnbull sheds light on the critical role of the Space Force in securing national interests and the profound impact of space on our everyday lives. How is AI revolutionizing defense strategies? What are the challenges it poses? And as the world powers position themselves, is the U.S. military equipped to handle the competition? Col Turnbull shares his insights into the future of military strategies, the necessity of embracing innovation, and his advice for the next generation of defense leaders. Listen now to delve deep into the strategies that are reshaping global defense dynamics.

Join us this week in talking with Mohawk Matt Denny, a figure renowned for building bridges, connecting silos, and fueling innovation across the Department of Defense. Dive into Matt’s fascinating narrative - from his first Marine Corps experiences to his unorthodox strategies for bringing about change. Listen as he details his infamous “one day procurement” triumph, earning him the nickname of “bureaucracy slayer.” But it isn’t just about cutting the red tape. Matt prompts us to reconsider the status quo, asking if that red tape should perhaps be yellow or even green. Mohawk Matt shares his incredible journey, highlights the power of building relationships, and discusses the significance of breaking through imposter syndrome. We end with a powerful message for senior leaders and an unforgettable “Be Awesome” ending. Follow Mohawk Matt’s latest adventures by connecting with him on LinkedIn.

Many people are all talk when it comes to workplace culture, but Michaela 🦄 Flatau is taking action by teaching others how to put the Human back in Human Resources. She is considered a thought leader across the United States Department of Defense and the startup community for her insights on workplace culture and HR. For Michaela, growing up as a military brat created a passion for serving the Warfighter and empowering others to serve the military and government mission as well. Her first step towards that goal was joining the United States Department of the Air Force civil service, where she worked through all facets of HR. As the head of recruiting at Defense Unicorns, aka our Collector, she continues her mission to bring talented people to the company and show others that in building a good workplace culture, people should always come first. Subscribe to Defense Unicorns, a podcast to meet more mission heroes across the defense and tech startup communities.

Join Pete Newell, the trailblazing CEO of BMNT Inc., a pioneer in the national security innovation space. With years of dedicated service in the U.S. Army and an insatiable passion for innovation, Newell shares enlightening insights into the evolving landscape of business and innovation. Embark on this journey reiterating the importance of compelling narratives in the world of business and innovation. With his decades of leadership and strategy implementation experience, Pete Newell underlines the pivotal role of design thinking, not as an all-encompassing solution but as a single cog within a grand machine. We explore the crux of high-performing team assembly, starting with the simple, yet profound concept of getting out of the office and into the field. Tune in as we deconstruct the commonly held belief that innovation equates to invention, or that every innovator is an entrepreneur. Newell posits an intriguing perspective around the 16-minute mark - "We're always at war. You just have to figure out where the battlefield is." A thought-provoking statement that underlines the continuous nature of struggle and competition in the realm of innovation. Join us in this enlightening discourse that promises to redefine your understanding of innovation, entrepreneurship, and the persistent battles in the business landscape. Brace yourself for an hour filled with valuable insights, compelling storytelling, and engaging discussion with one of the brightest minds in the field. Connect with Pete Newell On LinkedIn and Subscribe to our podcast to be updated when future mission heroes come on.