Leading in Uncertainty: why risk leadership needs to change

Leading in Uncertainty: why risk leadership needs to change

From Doing Disasters Differently: The Podcast with Renae Hanvin by Renae Hanvin

April 13, 2026 · 24 min

About this episode

Renae Hanvin discusses the need for a shift in risk leadership with guest Dave Owens, highlighting the inadequacies of traditional approaches in uncertain disaster environments.

In this episode of Doing Disasters Differently, Renae is joined by Dave Owens, an experienced emergency manager and former police officer who now works with governments and organisations to strengthen risk and crisis leadership. Drawing on more than three decades of experience across emergency management, Dave shares why traditional leadership approaches often fall short in complex and uncertain disaster environments. The conversation explores the shift from tactical response to strategic thi...

People in this episode

Host: Renae Hanvin

Guest: Dave Owens

Topics covered

  • risk leadership
  • emergency management
  • disaster response
  • strategic thinking
  • uncertainty

Keywords

  • risk leadership
  • emergency management
  • disaster response
  • strategic thinking
  • uncertainty

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: emergency management, police

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