Early Days #11: Boltz by Kilian

Early Days #11: Boltz by Kilian

From Early Days by Car

June 10, 2025 · 1h 16m

About this episode

Car interviews Kilian, Co-founder and CEO of Boltz, discussing the evolution of non-custodial swaps and the Lightning Network.

Summary: In this episode of Early Days , Car sits down with Kilian, Co-founder and CEO of Boltz, to explore the inception and evolution of the platform—designed to enable non-custodial swaps across Bitcoin layers. Kilian shares insights into the early challenges of the Lightning Network, the integration of Liquid for more efficient transactions, and the ongoing pursuit of privacy in Lightning payments. We explore: Why professional operation of routing nodes is key to network reliability. How privacy in Lightning transactions is progressing, with advancements like Bolt12. Liquid’s shifting role as a valuable option during high-fee periods. Why Kilian sees the Lightning Network as connective tissue across Bitcoin layers. Chapters: 03:38 How Boltz Evolved 06:16 Liquid’s Role in Lightning 09:25 User Experience and Wallet Integration 12:31 The Boltz Founders Journey 15:30 Technical Challenges and Node Management 18:27 Legal Considerations: Structuring a Non-Custodial Business 21:39 The Future of Lightning Network and Privacy Concerns 41:52 How Private is Lightning? 45:16 Bolt12 in Focus 48:55 Compliance Challenges in an Open Bitcoin Ecosystem 52:10 Rethinking Liquid 59:28 Lightning…

People in this episode

Host: Car

Guest: Kilian

Topics covered

  • non-custodial swaps
  • Lightning Network
  • privacy
  • Bitcoin layers
  • transaction efficiency
  • routing nodes

Keywords

  • Boltz
  • Lightning Network
  • Liquid
  • privacy
  • non-custodial
  • Bitcoin
  • routing nodes
  • Bolt12

Sponsors

VENTAC

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Boltz, Lightning Network, Liquid

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