
112. Accelerating the Hydrogen Stack
From Ecosystemic Futures by Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works
November 6, 2025 · 55 min · Season 6 · Episode 112
About this episode
Dr. Jalaal Hayes discusses the revolutionary potential of Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHC) technology in transforming hydrogen infrastructure and energy production.
Hydrogen infrastructure requires billion-dollar cryogenic systems. That's the conventional wisdom keeping hydrogen grounded. Dr. Jalaal Hayes proved it's wrong—and the implications for expeditionary operations are immediate. Hayes developed Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHC) technology, which stores hydrogen at ambient temperatures using existing fuel infrastructure. No specialized equipment. No cryogenic vulnerability. Combined with biohydrogen production, delivering three times the energy density of JP-8, this isn't an incremental improvement—it's an operational paradigm shift. When you orchestrate complementary technologies instead of betting on single solutions, you eliminate infrastructure dependencies that constrain deployment. For institutions like the DoW, that means hydrogen propulsion without forward-deployed cryogenic facilities. Paradigm Shifts: → Applied Budgetary Exhaustion: LOHC eliminates billions in cryogenic infrastructure by using existing petroleum systems—the same asymmetric strategy Ukraine uses with $10K drones vs $100M platforms. Attack the cost structure, not the capability. → Infrastructure Independence: Biohydrogen becomes deployable when paired…
People in this episode
Host: Dyan Finkhousen
Guest: Dr. Jalaal Hayes
Topics covered
- hydrogen technology
- infrastructure
- energy density
- biohydrogen
- operational paradigm shift
Keywords
- hydrogen
- LOHC
- biohydrogen
- energy density
- infrastructure
- cryogenic systems
- deployment
- supply chain
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: DoW
Products: Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHC), JP-8
Places: Ukraine
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