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State of Choice: Revolutionizing Education with AI
Jun 15, 2026
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How Iowa Is Turning Churches Into Classroom
Jun 1, 2026
18m 22s
Cool Schools: Bader Hillel High
May 18, 2026
30m 06s
How the Church Can Lead the Education Freedom Movement
May 4, 2026
15m 50s
State of Choice: April 2026
Apr 20, 2026
25m 18s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/15/26 | ![]() State of Choice: Revolutionizing Education with AI | In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski interviews Adam Mangana, CEO and a founder of Optima, about innovative educational technologies, including spatial computing, AI, and the impact on personalized learning. They explore how these advancements are transforming the future of education, especially for special needs students. | — | ||||||
| 6/1/26 | ![]() How Iowa Is Turning Churches Into Classroom✨ | faith-based educationIowa Students First Act+4 | Josh Bowar | Iowa Students First ActChristian schools+1 | — | Iowa Students First ActChristian education+3 | — | 18m 22s | |
| 5/18/26 | ![]() Cool Schools: Bader Hillel High✨ | educationcollege preparation+4 | Rabbi Yossi Bassman | Bader Hillel High School | Glendale, Wisconsin | Bader Hillel High SchoolRabbi Yossi Bassman+5 | — | 30m 06s | |
| 5/4/26 | ![]() How the Church Can Lead the Education Freedom Movement✨ | education freedomchurch involvement+3 | Pastor Joshua Robinson | Black Pastors United for Education | — | educationchurch+3 | — | 15m 50s | |
| 4/20/26 | ![]() State of Choice: April 2026✨ | school choiceeducation policy+3 | Katherine Munal SchulzeCooper Conway+2 | State of ChoiceU.S. | — | school choiceeducation+3 | — | 25m 18s | |
| 4/6/26 | ![]() Cool Schools: Basilica School of St. Mary's Star of the Sea✨ | educationschool challenges+4 | Robert Wright | Basilica School of St. Mary's Star of the Sea | Key West, Florida | Basilica SchoolKey West+5 | — | 32m 12s | |
| 3/16/26 | ![]() How to Help Your Child Be Successful in School✨ | parent supportstudent success+4 | Colleen HroncichLauren May+1 | Cato InstituteCenter for Educational Freedom+2 | — | parent supportstudent success+4 | — | 26m 11s | |
| 3/2/26 | ![]() America at 250: How to Reignite an Interest in History✨ | civics educationeducation reform+3 | Madison Marino DoanJonathan Butcher | The Heritage Foundation | America | civics educationeducation policy+4 | — | 17m 55s | |
| 2/16/26 | ![]() Unpacking the Federal Scholarship Tax Credit✨ | federal scholarship tax crediteducation choice+4 | John SchillingLauren May | 2020 StrategiesAmerican Federation for Children+2 | — | federal scholarship tax crediteducation choice+3 | — | 17m 25s | |
| 2/2/26 | ![]() Robotics, AI, and School Choice✨ | RoboticsAI+5 | Jennifer Wolverton | Microcollective for AI, Robotics and the SciencesMARS Microschool | — | RoboticsAI+5 | — | 15m 45s | |
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| 1/20/26 | ![]() Does School Choice Hurt Teachers?✨ | school choiceteachers+3 | — | — | — | school choiceteachers+3 | — | 10m 32s | |
| 1/5/26 | ![]() Do Parents Know What's Best for Their Kids? | In this episode of Tough Questions with Robert Enlow, we ask, "Do parents really know what's best for their kids?" Robert Enlow, President and CEO of EdChoice, discusses the critical role of parents in educational decision-making, challenging the myth that they cannot be trusted to make the best choices for their children. | — | ||||||
| 12/16/25 | ![]() What Happens to the Kids Left Behind? | Critics of school choice often argue that when some students leave for better opportunities, the ones who stay in traditional schools suffer. This episode of Tough Questions with Robert Enlow addresses whether that’s true—and what actually happens to those “left behind.” | — | ||||||
| 12/9/25 | ![]() Susan Pendergrass on the Supply Side of ESAs | In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Susan Pendergrass about the impact of universal choice in states like Arizona. They explore how universal choice is reshaping the educational landscape, the dynamics of supply and demand in rural areas, and the emergence of new educational models. | — | ||||||
| 12/2/25 | ![]() Does School Choice Actually Work? | In this episode of Tough Questions, we ask, "How do we know school choice actually works?" Robert Enlow, President and CEO of EdChoice, goes over the research, general skepticisms, and real-world examples of choice working. | — | ||||||
| 11/11/25 | ![]() Fighting for Freedom to Learn | On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Mike McShane talks with Neal McCluskey and James Shuls, editors of the new book Fighting for Freedom to Learn: Examining America's Century-Old School Choice Movement. In this conversation they explore the historical context and evolution of the school choice movement in America, focusing on the contributions of key figures like Horace Mann and Virgil Bloom. The discussion delves into the implications of the common schools movement, the challenges faced in advancing educational freedom, and the ongoing debate about whether school choice is a progressive or conservative reform. | — | ||||||
| 10/7/25 | ![]() Classic Learning Test: Challenging the Testing Monopoly | In this episode of State of Choice, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Michael Torres, Director of Legislative Strategy at the Classic Learning Test (CLT), about how CLT is challenging the SAT and ACT by offering a liberal arts-based testing. Torres shares the story of CLT’s founding, its rapid growth—especially after Florida’s adoption of the test—and ongoing efforts to expand into other states despite pushback. The conversation also explores the impact of standardized testing monopolies on education policy and curriculum, the importance of competition in testing, and CLT’s new initiative to create an alternative to Advanced Placement (AP) courses and exams. | — | ||||||
| 8/27/25 | ![]() Rethinking ESA Policy Design | On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Mike McShane talks with Katherine Bathgate, the CEO and founder of SchoolForward, about her new paper Rethinking ESA Policy Design: A new approach to financial accountability. They talk about the ideas in the paper, ESA policy, the risk of misuse and fraud in ESA programs, and so much more. | — | ||||||
| 7/15/25 | ![]() How the Herzog Foundation Is Strengthening Christian Education | In this episode of Sunday School Choice, host Nathan Sanders interviews Chris Vas from the Herzog Foundation to discuss the foundation’s mission of advancing Christ-centered K–12 education across the country. They explore the foundation’s professional development programs, its SchoolBox platform for launching new schools, and the impact of Missouri’s MoScholars tax credit program. The conversation also highlights trends in homeschooling and micro-schooling, especially how churches are partnering with educators to host innovative education models. | — | ||||||
| 7/2/25 | ![]() 2025 Legislative Session in Review | In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Katherine Schulze, Nathan Sanders, and Aaron Gillham about all the exciting momentum across the states this legislative session. Of the eight states–Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wyoming–that created or expanded choice programs in 2025, six now offer programs with universal eligibility, meaning any student may apply to participate. New Hampshire took it a step further by securing true universal education choice. | — | ||||||
| 6/30/25 | ![]() Tackling School Choice Attacks | For decades, critics of school choice have warned that it would destroy public education. From claims that funding would evaporate to predictions of catastrophic harm to students, the rhetoric has been dramatic—and remarkably consistent. But is there any truth to these warnings? Robert Enlow, CEO of EdChoice, and Ed Tarnowski, author of the new report Who's Afraid of School Choice, take some of the most anti-school choice quotes from the report and read them for you. | — | ||||||
| 6/23/25 | ![]() Inside School Choice Advocacy with Dr. Shaunette Parker | In this episode of Sunday School Choice: Where Faith Meets Education Freedom, host Nathan Sanders is joined by Dr. Shaunette Parker, Senior Director of Partner Relations at the National School Choice Awareness Foundation and board chair of Second Baptist Christian Preparatory School in South Carolina. They discuss how church-based schools can uniquely serve their communities, especially by providing safe, nurturing, and faith-aligned environments. Dr. Parker shares her journey into education and ministry, highlights how programs like South Carolina’s Education Scholarship Trust Fund expand access to private schooling for underserved families, and offers powerful encouragement for church leaders considering starting a school. | — | ||||||
| 6/11/25 | ![]() School Choice is Racist and Other Myths | On this edition of EdChoice Chats, host Mike McShane, Director of National Research at EdChoice, talks with Michael Bindas, Senior Attorney at the Institute for Justice, about his new paper titled "School Choice is Racist and Other Myths." | — | ||||||
| 6/9/25 | ![]() From Empty Classrooms to Thriving Schools: Ohio’s Christian Education Movement | In this episode of Sunday School Choice: Where Faith Meets Education Freedom, host Nathan Sanders is joined by Troy McIntosh from the Ohio Christian Education Network, a ministry of the Center for Christian Virtue, to talk about their School Starting Manual—a practical and faith-driven guide designed to help pastors and church leaders launch Christian schools. As more churches across the country explore how to start education ministries, this manual serves as a clear and proven blueprint. If you’ve ever asked, “How do we start a school?”—this episode is for you. | — | ||||||
| 6/2/25 | ![]() May 2025 State Updates | In this episode of the State of Choice podcast, host Ed Tarnowski talks with Katherine Schulze, Nathan Sanders, and Aaron Gillham about school choice updates across the US, including some very exciting news from Texas. | — | ||||||
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