Eternal Horizons

In this episode, Francis and Jasper discuss a listener question: when a format has a clear deck to beat, how do you prepare for it? They talk through how much weight to give the top deck when choosing a deck, building a sideboard, and testing for an event, as well as some of the traps players can fall into when metagaming. They also consider the flipside: what to do if your deck is the deck to beat.After that, they catch up on some local Legacy events, including a very amusing Thursday where Francis built a mystery deck for Jasper to play completely blind.Finally, Francis rounds things out with a tournament report from the Spotlight Series Legacy Cup in London, where he Doomsday and managed to navigate his way to a Top 8 finish.⁠HawkBlade (Initiative Crusher)⁠⁠Sloth Depths⁠ Doomsday

In this episode, Francis and Jasper start with some discussion of Francis’ latest innovation of a “Big Breakfast” list which eschews white cards for Stock Up and Ancient Tomb. Having lost to a Cephalid list featuring Stock Up in a league, his curiosity led him to exploring lists on mtgtop8 before he settled on the list he took to an unbeaten finish at his local weekly.Talk then turns to the new set, Secrets of Strixhaven, with cards like Flow State, Erode and Petrified Hamlet being evaluated for their Legacy playability. While both express concerns about the potential of Flow State, given Expressive Iteration’s spot on the ban list, they’re broadly optimistic that it will be an interesting set for the format.Lastly, they return to the topic of Old School. Francis reflects on his experiences at COPCon XXV, while Jasper has been buying a bunch of sweet old cards for his first forays into the format. Blue-red CounterBurn has caught his eye, and the pair consider the viability of playing an unpowered deck in a format which allows a full set of moxen, Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall. Big Cephalid BreakfastOld School blue-red CounterBurn

In this episode of Eternal Horizons, Francis and Jasper are joined by a very special guest to discuss all things Painter and Goblin Welder in Legacy. Fresh off top 8’ing a challenge with the new Sewer-veillance Cam combo in a red-based Painter deck, former Everyday Eternal co-host Callum Smith joins the cast for a deep dive on the new deck. All three of them have been playing as many different builds and ideas as they’ve had time for, and even though it’s only a week into the new meta, some clear patterns are emerging. Your hosts explore what the core of the deck is, where their lists diverge and what further options might be available for refining the archetype.Drawing on listener questions, they also discuss how the new combo has changed bad matchups for the better, and generally been a shot in the arm for an archetype that’s been struggling to keep up with recent metagame shifts.Callum’s top 8 listFrancis’ 5-0 listPainter discord link

In this episode, Francis and Jasper talk about Premodern following Francis' top-8 success at a local tournament. He gives a rundown of his experience playing Psychatog and reflects on what he learnt about the deck and the format more generally. Jasper has also been playing Premodern, testing lists in search of a deck to pick up. He seems to have hit on something he really enjoys, Welder Survival, and waxes lyrical about the range of fun gameplay and deckbuilding options. In a departure from the usual Eternal-format discussion, Jasper shouts out Pro Tour Lorwyn Eclipsed, a great recent event showcasing a Standard format that has enticed him to build his first Standard deck in a decade.Moving on to Legacy, Francis and Jasper have both had a chance to play the blue-red Repurposing Bay Painter list they discussed last episode, and share some thoughts on potential changes to the decklist. They wrap up with a brief consideration of what might get banned in the February 9th announcement, but conclude that Legacy bans are unlikely.Premodern PsychatogPremodern ToginatorPremodern Welder TinkerPremodern Welder SurivalPT Lorwyn Eclipsed coveragePT Lorwyn Eclipsed - Izzet ElementalsLegacy Repurposing Bay Painter (weekly list)Legacy Repurposing Bay Painter (blasts main) Intro & outro music: King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard - ‘Inner Cell’ & ‘Horology’00:00:00 Introduction00:03:42 Premodern Psychatog00:11:53 Tournament report00:24:47 Reflecting on Psychatog's strengths and weaknesses00:27:18 Jasper's search for a Premodern deck00:31:43 RG Welder Survival00:35:41 Gameplay and decklist considerations00:43:34 Pro Tour Lorwyn Eclipsed00:45:53 Standard top 8 decklists00:53:20 Legacy Repurposing Bay Painter01:03:31 Refining Repurposing Bay01:06:32 Legacy B&R announcement predictions

In this episode, Francis and Jasper pick up where they left off last episode with a bit more cube chat. Responding to an LSV video in which he talks about over- and underrated cards, they focus on Library of Alexandria and Fastbond and discuss what it takes to make those cards good and when you should draft them. Moving on to Legacy, your hosts take some time to reflect on the format in general and whether it would benefit from any bans or unbans. Beginning with the latter, they run through a list of suggested unbans which run the gamut of plausible to potentially format-destroying. With a particular consideration of play patterns and game experiences, they then turn their attention to Oops All Spells, currently experiencing a surge in play and boasting an impressive conversion rate into the top 8s of recent Legacy Challenges.Francis and Jasper then both give their thoughts on whether Tamiyo or The One Ring should see a ban, while remaining positive about the improvements seen to the format since the banning of Entomb and Nadu.To wrap up, they have a chat about what they’re likely to play at their next local weekly, with Francis previewing a new GB midrange brew he’s been working on.LSV’s video about Vintage cubeJasper’s Fastbond deckReddit thread about unbansEcobaronen’s Metagame Monday00:00:00 Introduction00:00:47 Is Library of Alexandria overrated in cube?00:05:32 Drafting Fastbond00:14:09 Debating Legacy unbans00:30:20 Is Oops! All Spells too good?00:40:07 The problem with MDFC lands00:50:55 Should Tamiyo and The One Ring be banned?01:02:57 Legacy deck ideas for weekliesIntro & outro music: King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard - ‘Inner Cell’ & ‘Horology’

In this first episode of Eternal Horizons, Francis and Jasper kick things off by talking about how they got into Magic before discussing their experiences at Eternal Weekend EU in Lucca.They reflect on their early days in Magic, discovering a shared fondness for casting Cruel Ultimatum, before discussing Legacy’s history in the time that they’ve been playing it, including Miracles, Painter, and a few major bannings. The second half of the episode focuses on Eternal Weekend as your hosts muse on the beautiful city of Lucca and give a breakdown of their team trios performance, plus an account of Francis’ top 32 run with Jeskai Gifts Breach in Vintage. Jasper talks about the two different builds of Painter he played: blue-green Echo Painter and red-white Strawberry Shortcake, while Francis goes through his choices for Cephalid Breakfast and his Premodern Life Combo deck. After a brief digression into options for unpowered Vintage lists, they wrap up with a look ahead to an upcoming local tournament, with an innovative new build of Painter hoving into view.Decklists and other links:Alex’s Trios Pauper ElvesFrancis’ Vintage Gifts BreachJasper’s Trios Legacy Echo PainterPainting By Numbers: Complete History of PainterJasper’s Legacy Strawberry ShortcakeJasper’s round 2 feature matchFrancis’ Legacy Cephalid BreakfastFrancis’ Premodern Life ComboIntro & outro music: King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard - 'Inner Cell' & 'Horology'Chapters:00:00 Intro - Welcome to Eternal Horizons01:10 Francis’ Magic origins + early Legacy experiences04:19 Jasper’s path into Legacy + discovering Painter06:01 Early Legacy decks, budgets, and learning the format09:06 Miracles, Sensei’s Divining Top, and a defining era12:28 Post-WAR Legacy and how the format changed16:26 Why record a Legacy podcast?18:17 Eternal Weekend Lucca20:56 Team Trio event29:24 Choosing a Legacy deck for the main event31:08 Playing Jeskai Gifts Breach in Vintage39:15 Powered vs unpowered Vintage48:16 Building Painter in Legacy (new tech + experiments)51:00 Legacy main event - Strawberry Shortcake Painter53:23 What is a Clam Session?56:48 Legacy main event - Cephalid Breakfast01:01:39 Premodern - GW Life Combo01:10:23 Looking ahead - future episodes + LLM