Neither War Nor Appeasement

About this episode

Lala and Brian discuss the human stories behind the crisis in Iran with activist Zolal Habibi, exploring her personal connection to the struggle for freedom and the parallels to past events.

In this episode, Lala and Brian move beyond the headlines to explore the human stories behind the current crisis in Iran. They are joined by human rights activist Zolal Habibi, a member of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, who shares her deeply personal connection to the struggle for freedom. Zolal discusses the haunting parallels between the 1988 massacre—which claimed her father’s life—and the modern uprisings led by a brave new generation. The conversation explores the "third wa...

People in this episode

Hosts: Lala, Brian

Guest: Zolal Habibi

Topics covered

• human rights
• Iran crisis
• freedom struggle
• 1988 massacre
• modern uprisings
• activism

Keywords

• Iran
• human rights
• Zolal Habibi
• 1988 massacre
• freedom
• activism
• uprisings

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: National Council of Resistance of Iran

Places: Iran

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