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Introducing Asian Innovation for Social Good
Aug 28, 2026
1m 19s
Introducing Foreign Policy's The Hidden Economics of Remarkable Women
May 26, 2026
27m 57s
Trump’s War, Xi’s Opportunity: Ambassador Nicholas Burns on Iran’s Hot War
Apr 21, 2026
38m 11s
Climbing the Great Firewall: Freedom, Censorship, and China’s Internet
Apr 7, 2026
44m 41s
How Far Will China Go for Iran?
Mar 24, 2026
31m 59s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 8/28/26 | Introducing Asian Innovation for Social Good | While we're busy working on a new season of Face-Off, we thought our audience might be interested in learning about a new series called Asian Innovation for Social Good, produced by our friends at Foreign Policy. Across Asia, philanthropy is expanding from traditional grant-making into a more active role as catalytic capital, taking on risk that commercial investment avoids and public funding cannot yet reach. Climate, global health, and inclusive development now draw partnerships that cross borders and sectors, financing early-stage innovation where the returns are uncertain and the time horizons are long. The Philanthropy Asia Summit is where those alliances take shape, and this four-part series, recorded at the sixth edition in Singapore, follows host Rob Sachs into the rooms where funders, operators, and policy leaders are testing what collaborative giving can achieve. Each episode examines the role philanthropy plays when the maps drawn for an earlier era no longer fit the terrain, and what becomes possible when ambition meets disciplined execution. Find the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1m 19s | ||||||
| 5/26/26 | environmental solutionsconservation+4 | Jody AllenDr. Shivani Bhalla+1 | International Monetary FundEwaso Lions+2 | KenyaZimbabwe | conservationeconomic impact+6 | — | 27m 57s | ||
| 4/21/26 | US-Iran relationsChina diplomacy+3 | Nicholas Burns | Airwave MediaRowhome Productions | IranVenezuela+1 | TrumpXi Jinping+6 | — | 38m 11s | ||
| 4/7/26 | internet censorshipChina+4 | Yi-Ling Liu | Face-Off: The U.S. vs ChinaAirwave Media+7 | ChinaHong Kong | Chinainternet censorship+6 | — | 44m 41s | ||
| 3/24/26 | China-Iran relationsMiddle East politics+3 | Yun Sun | Stimson CenterForeign Affairs | IranChina+2 | ChinaIran+6 | — | 31m 59s | ||
| 3/17/26 | twinsadoption+5 | Barbara Demick | Los Angeles TimesNew York Times+1 | — | twinsadoption+5 | — | 48m 31s | ||
| 3/3/26 | China's militaryXi Jinping+4 | Zhou Bo | People’s Liberation Army | — | Chinese militarypurge+5 | — | 25m 02s | ||
| 1/20/26 | AI revolutiontechnology+4 | Tripp Mickle | NvidiaNew York Times+3 | — | Jensen HuangNvidia+5 | — | 53m 20s | ||
| 1/13/26 | soft powerChina+3 | Da Wei | Tsinghua UniversitySparks: China’s Underground Historians and their Battle for the Future+1 | — | Chinasoft power+3 | — | 49m 32s | ||
| 1/6/26 | maritime conflictPhilippines+4 | Marites Vitug | RapplerJournalism for Nation Building Foundation+2 | PhilippinesChina+2 | high-seas dramaChinese warships+4 | — | 43m 56s | ||
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| 12/16/25 | sports diplomacygeopolitical deals+4 | Oliver Nobetau | Asia SocietyLowy Institute+1 | AustraliaPapua New Guinea+2 | rugby leaguegeopolitical deal+4 | — | 32m 45s | ||
| 12/9/25 | roboticsChina+4 | Alberto Moel | University of Hong KongI, Robot+1 | BeijingU.S.+1 | robotsrobot convention+4 | — | 35m 26s | ||
| 12/2/25 | The Xi Factor | Jake Sullivan has sat across from Xi Jinping more times than almost any American official—from Xi's rise in 2013 to their last face-off in Beijing. What's it like negotiating with the world's most powerful dictator? Sullivan reveals Xi's ego, tactics, and how a relationship that started with cautious optimism turned into open hostility. Guest: Jake Sullivan, Former U.S. National Security Adviser for President Biden and the host of The Long Game, a new podcast from Vox Media. Book Recommendations: The Party’s Interests Come First: The Life of Xi Zhongxun, Father of Xi Jinping by Joseph Torigian. Apple in China by Patrick McGee. Face-Off: The U.S. vs. China is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 54m 11s | ||||||
| 11/25/25 | China's Arms Race | China is outbuilding America's navy and beating us in hypersonic missiles. Xi has purged corrupt generals to create a military machine loyal only to him. Can China's forces actually win a war? We break down the PLA's transformation from paper tiger to potential superpower. Guest: Zhou Bo, Retired Senior Colonel in the People’s Liberation Army (https://ciss.tsinghua.edu.cn/info/CFExperts/1212) Book Recommendations: Should The World Fear China by Zhou Bo China’s Quest for Military Supremacy by Joel Wuthnow and Phillip Saunders Face-Off: The U.S. vs. China is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 52m 24s | ||||||
| 11/18/25 | Generation Burnout | China's youth were supposed to lead the nation to glory. Instead, they're lying flat, embracing "garbage time," and quietly rebelling against a system that promised everything and delivered economic stagnation. In this episode of Face-Off - our first of Season 3 (!) - we get inside the psychology of China's disillusioned generation. Guest: Chang Che, Chinese-American Writer (https://changnche.com/) Book Recommendations: Sparks: China’s Underground Historians and their Battle for the Future by Ian Johnson Other Rivers: A Chinese Education by Peter Hessler Face-Off: The U.S. vs. China is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 59m 26s | ||||||
| 11/4/25 | Season 3 Trailer | In our third season of Face-Off: The US vs China, we’ll explore some of the biggest issues dividing these global powers today: Trump and Xi Jinping, AI, China’s growing military might, and also… robots. Season 3 of Face-Off: US vs China begins Tuesday, November 18th. Join us. Face-Off is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 3m 10s | ||||||
| 10/28/25 | THE GREATER WAGER EPISODE 5: The Break-Up | THE GREAT WAGER Episode 5. The break-up: Richard Nixon’s great wager reverberates from the '70s to today While we’re preparing season 3 of Face Off, we’re excited to present an encore presentation of The Great Wager, a five-part series about Richard Nixon’s top-secret plan to go to China, befriend China, and change the balance of power in the Cold War. This is the series finale: Episode 5. All of a sudden, it’s less clear if Nixon’s wager is paying off. After years of collaboration and mutual economic benefit, relations between China and the U.S. are at a low point. What does the start of this important relationship reveal about its next chapter? The Great Wager was produced in 2022 with Here & Now and WBUR Podcasts. This special presentation of The Great Wager is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Book Recommendations: Nixon and Mao: The Week that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan. An insider look at how Nixon and Kissinger operated in Beijing. Assignment China: An Oral History of American Journalists in the People's Republic by Mike Chinoy. Chapter 4: How American reporters, who knew little about China, covered the presidential trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 18m 28s | ||||||
| 10/21/25 | THE GREAT WAGER EPISODE 4: Shared Secrets | THE GREAT WAGER Episode 4. Shared secrets: How The U.S. and China worked together to spy on the Soviet Union While we’re preparing season 3 of Face Off, we’re excited to present an encore presentation of The Great Wager, a five-part series about Richard Nixon’s top-secret plan to go to China, befriend China, and change the balance of power in the Cold War. This is Episode 4. The relationship between China and the U.S. is off and running — and now the two countries are collaborating on secret, sensitive intelligence. This installment of The Great Wager includes exclusive information about how Chinese and American intelligence officials agreed to work together against their common rival of many years. The Great Wager was produced in 2022 with Here & Now and WBUR Podcasts. This special presentation of The Great Wager is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Book Recommendations: Nixon and Mao: The Week that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan. An insider look at how Nixon and Kissinger operated in Beijing. Assignment China: An Oral History of American Journalists in the People's Republic by Mike Chinoy. Chapter 4: How American reporters, who knew little about China, covered the presidential trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 16m 42s | ||||||
| 10/14/25 | THE GREAT WAGER EPISODE 3: When Nixon Met Mao | THE GREAT WAGER Episode 3. Grip and grin: When Nixon met Mao While we’re preparing season 3 of Face Off, we’re excited to present an encore presentation of The Great Wager, a five-part series about Richard Nixon’s top-secret plan to go to China, befriend China, and change the balance of power in the Cold War. This is Episode 3. The news of Nixon’s trip to China is public, and he’s getting credit for pulling off such a historic event. Now, he and his advisers have to work with the Chinese to forge a relationship between two very different countries. The Great Wager was produced in 2022 with Here & Now and WBUR Podcasts. This special presentation of The Great Wager is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Book Recommendations: Nixon and Mao: The Week that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan. An insider look at how Nixon and Kissinger operated in Beijing. Assignment China: An Oral History of American Journalists in the People's Republic by Mike Chinoy. Chapter 4: How American reporters, who knew little about China, covered the presidential trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 17m 27s | ||||||
| 10/7/25 | THE GREAT WAGER EPISODE 2: Plots & Private Planes | THE GREAT WAGER Episode 2: Plots and private planes: How Henry Kissinger pulled off a secret trip to China While we’re preparing season 3 of Face Off, we’re excited to present an encore presentation of The Great Wager, a five-part series about Richard Nixon’s top-secret plan to go to China, befriend China, and change the balance of power in the Cold War. This is Episode 2. Nixon and his national security adviser Henry Kissinger make contact with China. But in the midst of the Cold War, they don’t want anyone to know. How will Kissinger get to Beijing without alerting anyone — and what’s Frank Sinatra got to do with it? The Great Wager was produced in 2022 with Here & Now and WBUR Podcasts. This special presentation of The Great Wager is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Book Recommendations: Nixon and Mao: The Week that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan. An insider look at how Nixon and Kissinger operated in Beijing. Assignment China: An Oral History of American Journalists in the People's Republic by Mike Chinoy. Chapter 4: How American reporters, who knew little about China, covered the presidential trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 17m 15s | ||||||
| 10/1/25 | THE GREAT WAGER EPISODE 1: Richard Nixon's "Crazy" Idea | THE GREAT WAGER EPISODE 1: Richard Nixon's 'crazy' idea: Make befriending the Chinese Communist Party his legacy With money, power and political standing at stake, America’s relationship with China is tenuous. But it wasn’t always that way. The Great Wager is a five-part series that tells the story of the extraordinary encounter between Richard Nixon and Mao Zedong in 1972 that brought these two countries together, the secret collaborations born from that meeting — and the reverberations we’re still feeling today. We’re thrilled to be re-airing this series, while we’re busily preparing season 3 of Face Off behind the scenes. This is episode 1. President Richard Nixon has a plan: He wants to go to China. The only problem? The U.S. and China have had zero contact since the Communist Party took over China more than two decades before. The Great Wager host Jane Perlez digs into the beginning of Nixon’s improbable diplomatic mission. The Great Wager was produced in 2022 with Here & Now and WBUR Podcasts. This special presentation of The Great Wager is produced in partnership with Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Book Recommendations: Nixon and Mao: The Week that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan. An insider look at how Nixon and Kissinger operated in Beijing. Assignment China: An Oral History of American Journalists in the People's Republic by Mike Chinoy. Chapter 4: How American reporters, who knew little about China, covered the presidential trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 15m 56s | ||||||
| 5/20/25 | Criss-Crossing China | In this bonus episode of Face-Off Jane speaks with former ambassador to China, Nicholas Burns. They discuss Ambassador Burns’ encounters with the Chinese leader Xi Jinping, his meetings with American CEOs, and his travels to remote places in China. BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS: To Change China, by Jonathan D. Spence The Private Life of Chairman Mao, by Zhi-Sui Li Chip Wars, by Chris Miller Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 51m 50s | ||||||
| 4/24/25 | From Mao to Xi Jinping: A Conversation with Orville Schell | In a special bonus episode recorded live at the Asia Society, host Jane Perlez speaks with journalist and scholar Orville Schell about his 50 years covering Chinese leaders and their American counterparts. They attempt to answer the question: how did we get here? Recorded live at The Asia Society on April 8, 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 59m 29s | ||||||
| 4/1/25 | Soulmates: Xi and Putin | China and Russia have rarely been friendly - until now. Xi and Putin have been open about their bromance, exchanging gifts, sharing lavish dinners, even celebrating a birthday together. Are the two dictators, Xi and Putin, aiming to forge a new arrangement in the world that diminishes the traditional role of the United States? Our guest, Lyle Goldstein, former professor at US Naval War College, and now teaching at Brown University, is an expert on China and Russia. He talks about the new order under President Trump, and how Russia and China, aligned with each other, approach the US in different ways. Guest: Lyle Goldstein: Former professor at US Naval War College, now at Brown University. Book Recommendations: Crisis of Democratic Capitalism by Martin Wolf China and Russia by Philip Snow. Sound design, original score, mixing and mastering by Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 40m 07s | ||||||
| 3/25/25 | AI Superpower: US or China? | China’s leader, Xi Jinping, has given China five years to dominate Artificial Intelligence. He believes China must accomplish this goal in order to become the world’s tech giant. But the United States is doing everything it can to stop China from reaching its goal. Can Washington stop US and European advanced chips from reaching China? It seems not, as the arrival of DeepSeek shows. Will AI development be throttled by the Chinese government’s heavy censorship? Can China achieve its goal? Guest: Karen Hao, journalist and engineer. Writing appears in The Atlantic, Wall Street Journal. Author of the upcoming Empire of AI. Book Recommendations: AI Superpowers: China, Silicon Valley and the New World Order by Kai-Fu Lee Superagency: What Could Possibly Go Right with Our AI Future by Reid Hoffman and Greg Beato Sound design, original score, mixing and mastering by Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer. Face-Off is a proud member of the Airwave podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 44m 58s | ||||||
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