Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never Lend

Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never Lend

From Fire and Steel by Toby Murrill

December 20, 2025 · 1h 4m · Season 2 · Episode 5

About this episode

Toby and Chris discuss lasers, AI chaos, plumbing issues, and the tools they wouldn't lend.

Episode 5 — Lasers, AI Chaos, Plumbing Pain & Tools We’d Never Lend It’s just Toby and Chris this week, with Onur out sick — which means things drift slightly off the rails in the usual Fire & Steel fashion. Toby talks about finally getting hands-on with his laser, experimenting with rotary setups, Yeti mugs, brass pieces, and the strange world of EDC coins, pills, and ultra-hyped collectibles. We dig into maker marketing, limited drops, and why some people will buy anything if it’s hyped hard enough. Chris breaks down his recent run of AI-generated posts, why people love them, and why a loud minority absolutely lose their minds over AI. We talk about anti-AI outrage, creativity, research tools, and why most of the anger feels performative rather than practical. “We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.”“We also drifted into a surprisingly thoughtful conversation about faith, Christianity, and using AI as a research tool — and why that topic seems to upset people far more than it probably should.” Toby goes on a very…

People in this episode

Hosts: Chris, Toby, Onur

Topics covered

  • lasers
  • AI
  • plumbing
  • customer support
  • maker marketing

Keywords

  • EDC coins
  • collectibles
  • anti-AI outrage
  • faith
  • Christianity

Mentioned in this episode

Products: Yeti, laser, Yeti mugs, brass pieces

Books & works: Fire & Steel

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