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Francis Fukuyama on Trump’s War With Iran
Mar 1, 2026
38m 41s
Stephen E. Hanson and Jeffrey S. Kopstein on America as a Family Business
Feb 4, 2026
35m 33s
Damon Linker on Leo Strauss, Glory, and Gender
Jan 9, 2026
47m 24s
Alex Stamos on the Real Threat Posed By AI
Dec 11, 2025
42m 30s
Laura K. Field on the New Right
Dec 4, 2025
45m 57s
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| 3/1/26 |  Francis Fukuyama on Trump’s War With Iran | This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.persuasion.communityWe’re trying something new! Frank featured on today’s episode of The Good Fight, so we’re sharing it with subscribers to the Frankly Fukuyama podcast! If you’d like to sign up to The Good Fight or Frankly Fukuyama, please click here and toggle the correct buttons! We hope you enjoy the conversation.Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is Liberalism and Its Discontents. He is also the author of the “Frankly Fukuyama” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion.In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss whether the unprecedented strikes on Iran will lead to the downfall of the mullahs, whether America can avoid getting drawn into a Middle Eastern quagmire, and whether the midterms will turn Donald Trump into a lame duck.If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone.Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.communityPodcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!Spotify | Apple | GoogleX: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Yascha Mounk, PersuasionLinkedIn: Persuasion Community | 38m 41s | ||||||
| 2/4/26 |  Stephen E. Hanson and Jeffrey S. Kopstein on America as a Family Business | Francis Fukuyama is joined by Steve Hanson and Jeff Kopstein to discuss why Donald Trump’s regime can be described as “patrimonial,” how this approach leads to high corruption, and why reversing it will pose special challenges.Stephen E. Hanson and Jeffrey . Kopstein are professors of political science at William and Mary College and the University of California, Irvine, respectively.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 35m 33s | ||||||
| 1/9/26 |  Damon Linker on Leo Strauss, Glory, and Gender | Damon Linker is a senior lecturer in political science at the University of Pennsylvania and writes the subscription newsletter “Notes from the Middleground” at Substack. He discusses divisions among Straussians, why an internal longing for glory drives so much of the right and why gender remains such a divisive topic.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 47m 24s | ||||||
| 12/11/25 |  Alex Stamos on the Real Threat Posed By AI | Alex Stamos was formerly head of security at Facebook/Meta and is a leading expert on computer security. He discusses the threats to computer security posed by the most recent advances in AI, and explains why those are much more dangerous and urgent than the “existential” threats feared by many.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 42m 30s | ||||||
| 12/4/25 |  Laura K. Field on the New Right | Francis Fukuyama and Laura K. Field, author of Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, explore the ideological roots of Trumpism, the role of gender in the New Right, and the complicated legacy of Leo Strauss.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 45m 57s | ||||||
| 11/24/25 |  Jim Fishkin on Deliberation and Democracy | Francis Fukuyama interviews Jim Fishkin, author of Can Deliberation Cure the Ills of Democracy?, about why democracies need deliberation, the role of AI, and how to ensure the deliberative process doesn’t hinder public infrastructure projects.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here. You can watch the interview below.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 32m 55s | ||||||
| 11/17/25 |  Why We Need Abundance | Francis Fukuyama is interviewed by Leonora Barclay, Head of Podcasts at Persuasion, about what’s stopping the United States from building infrastructure, how to encourage public participation without holding projects back, and why abundance is the solution to many affordability issues in America today.All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 23m 35s | ||||||
| 11/10/25 |  Daniela Salazar on State Violence in Ecuador | Francis Fukuyama and Daniela Salazar, a former judge in the Constitutional Court of Ecuador, discuss what Ecuadorian President Daniel Noboa’s recent declaration of a state of emergency in five states means, the increase in state violence and human rights violations, and why a new constitution isn’t the solution. Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 23m 00s | ||||||
| 11/7/25 |  Superintelligence Isn't Enough | Predictions that AGI or artificial general intelligence will lead to machines that are smarter than human beings abound. But superintelligence is unlikely to lead to the kind of explosive economic growth that some predict, because intelligence is only one of many inputs necessary to sustain economic growth.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 5m 45s | ||||||
| 11/5/25 |  Why China and the United States are Different | In the first half of the conversation, Frank Fukuyama interviews Dan Wang on his book breakneck, and how the engineering state led to the disaster of the “one child” policy; in the second part, Dan queries Frank on his view of the Chinese Communist Party, his meeting with anti-corruption chief Wang Qishan, and other topics.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 54m 29s | ||||||
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| 10/31/25 |  Gabrielius Landsbergis on What Next For Europe | Francis Fukuyama is joined by Gabrielius Landsbergis, Lithuania’s former Minister of Foreign Affairs, to discuss Ukraine, Russia, and the war’s impact on the rest of Europe.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 28m 05s | ||||||
| 10/27/25 |  The Real Cause of Populism | In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Jeremiah Johnson from the Center for New Liberalism examine different possible reasons for our divided politics, and conclude that social media is the leading cause of the global rise of populism.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 36m 53s | ||||||
| 10/14/25 |  The Case Against the Unitary Executive | Under the doctrine of the “unitary executive,” Donald Trump has fired numerous federal officials that had statutory job protections. Congress has seen fit to limit the president’s removal power for the past 150 years in order to protect expertise and de-politicize parts of the federal government, like the Federal Reserve Board. For government to operate effectively, there needs to be a separation of powers not just between the branches of government, but within the executive branch itself, and the Supreme Court should not hand Trump this power.You can watch the episode below. All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 12m 30s | ||||||
| 9/24/25 |  Our Coming Plutocracy | In this episode, Francis Fukuyama explores why the Tesla board’s offer of a trillion dollar incentive to Elon Musk and the consolidation of a gigantic media empire by Larry Ellison and his son David are the latest examples of the dangerous levels of concentrated wealth and power in today’s America.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 8m 17s | ||||||
| 7/21/25 |  Francis Fukuyama on Agentic AI and the Problem of Delegation | In this episode of Frankly Fukuyama, Francis Fukuyama explores AI’s existential threat to humanity. The original blog post which inspired this episode is here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 8m 41s | ||||||
| 6/5/25 |  Michael McFaul on The Emerging Geopolitical Order | Michael McFaul is the Director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford, and author of the forthcoming book Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Michael McFaul discuss discuss Russia, whether there is a new Cold War between the United States and China, and why teaching should empower students to be actual policy implementers rather than simply technocrats.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 16m 49s | ||||||
| 6/2/25 |  Parag Khanna on How To Measure State Capacity | In the latest conversation on the Frankly Fukuyama podcast, Francis Fukuyama is joined by Parag Khanna.Parag Khanna is a political scientist and author of a number of books, including Move! The Forces Uprooting Us, How to Run the World, and Technocracy in America. He is the CEO of AlphaGeo, a geospatial predictive location analytics platform, and the creator of The Periodic Table of States.You can watch the full episode below, and can find all episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 43m 44s | ||||||
| 5/7/25 |  Batu Kutelia on Georgia | Batu Kutelia was a former ambassador of the Republic of Georgia to the Untied States, and a senior official in the Georgian Defense Ministry. In this interview, he talks about the strategic importance of Georgia and the so-called "Middle Corridor", and how the country is under severe pressure from Russia to re-enter the Russian strategic orbitPodcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 28m 15s | ||||||
| 5/5/25 |  Introducing the Frankly Fukuyama Podcast! | I’d like to introduce you to a new podcast series that will accompany my Frankly Fukuyama blog on American Purpose at Persuasion. Rose Gottemoeller is the former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, has held a series of top State Department posts including Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, and was chief negotiator of the New START Treaty.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe | 27m 34s | ||||||
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