#47 | The Leadership Bill Always Comes Due. With: Phil Hayes-St. Clair
From Fulfillment Project by Fulfillment Project with: Andy Leonard
February 23, 2026 · 1h 1m · Season 2 · Episode 47
About this episode
Phil Hayes-St. Clair discusses the hidden costs of leadership and the importance of health and relationships in scaling effectively.
About Phil Hayes‑St Clair Phil Hayes‑St Clair is a leadership coach, writer, and former entrepreneur who has built eight companies across healthcare, biotech, and technology. His work focuses on helping leaders scale without sacrificing health, relationships, or integrity. Weekly essays: The Wednesday Partnership Podcast: The Partnership Playbook Website: https://www.philhsc.com Most leadership advice focuses on growth.Very little talks about the human bill that shows up later. In this episode of The Fulfillment Project , Andy Leonard sits down with Phil Hayes‑St Clair —former Australian Army officer, serial entrepreneur (8 companies, 3 successful), and leadership coach—to talk about reinvention, partnerships, burnout, and what it actually costs to lead well over time. This isn’t a productivity conversation.It’s a formation conversation. Phil shares how a forced exit from the military reshaped his understanding of leadership, why most partnerships fail, and why growth without health and relationships is a debt—not a win. In This Conversation, You’ll Learn: ✅ Why “kind but not nice” is the mark of great leadership✅ The hidden cost of growth that most leaders ignore✅ How to scale…
People in this episode
Host: Andy Leonard
Guest: Phil Hayes-St. Clair
Topics covered
- leadership
- burnout
- partnerships
- growth
- health
Keywords
- leadership coach
- entrepreneur
- human bill
- formation conversation
- IDEAL framework
Mentioned in this episode
Products: The Wednesday Partnership, The Partnership Playbook
Books & works: The Art of Saying No 28:42
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