Gardens, weeds and words

Gardens, weeds and words podcast, S03.5 E04 show notes A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack 00:40 spring settling in, and it's been a warm, dry start 02:34 what your garden wants from you, the last in my series of readings on how to find yourself in a state of harmony with your garden reading 08:00 'Cow Parsley' from Jack Wallington's Wild About Weeds, read by Milli Proust interview 10:52 Jack joins us to talk about the impact of his book five (now six!) years on, how practical it really is to incorporate weeds purposefully into our gardens, and whether a gentler, more natural approach to planting has any cut through beyond the garden media. 12:08 Did Jack's pro-weed stance feel like a lonely position to be adopting back in 2019? 13:28 The effect on Jack's garden design practice 13:54 The manifesto approach to writing your first book 14:42 Has there been a noticeable change in the attitude of gardeners towards weeds since the publication of the book? 17:50 Has there been any trickle down to the general public from a wilder look embraced by top garden designers at shows like Chelsea? 22:54 A plant in the wrong place? Weren't they here first? But gardening is largely about declaring what we want to grow and where. How does Jack find a middle ground? 25:25 Managing a weedy population – regular culling 26:22 Jack's wildflower meadow and help with weeding 27:15 Practical steps with embracing weeds – where do you start with becoming wild about weeds? 29:22 A weedy through-line – how weeds flow through all of Jack's work *** Thank you to Milli Proust for her delightful reading from Jack's book, Wild About Weeds, published by Lawrence King in 2019. My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. substack: Bramble & Briar website: www.andrewtimothyobrien.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Gardens, weeds and words podcast, S03.5 E02 show notes A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Autumn is settling in and, if we're honest, we start to spend less time actively gardening. More time for the soil to grow what it really wants, more time for us to start dreaming next year's garden into being. In this episode, we hear how weeds have evolved to depend upon us making room for them to exploit, with another reading form Jack Wallington's Wild About Weeds. And I bring you the second instalment of my series on easing into harmony with your garden. Garden soundtrack 00:40 How we could use our gardens more all year round 02:00 Essential kit for experiencing a soggy garden 03:20 Assessing the garden in autumn, and making a habit of showing up 04:20 What the weeds are getting up to, and how humans and weeds go hand in hand reading 05:55 from Jack Wallington's Wild About Weeds, read by Rose White 08:29 Purpose and intention in the garden – weedy, or not so weedy? It's up to you! 09:23 What do you want from your garden? The second instalment of my series on easing into harmony with your garden. 18:48 A special quality to gardening at this time of year – read more on Bramble & Briar, my publication on Substack (you can listen there, too) On lazy clouds, and the softness of November, Andrew O'Brien, on Bramble & Briar *** Thank you to Rose White for reading so beautifully from Jack's book, Wild About Weeds, published by Lawrence King in 2019. (You can order Rose's own book of her poetry, Songbird, here. 10% of all proceeds from the sale of this book will be donated to the charity BEAT Eating Disorders). My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

This is a little bit of a teaser. Series 4 of the Gardens, Weeds & Words podcast is starting to come together, but you know how long it takes for things to assemble inside my head. And, from there, to make the journey through all the twigs, and moss, and soil and stuff, into the editing software and out into the real world in a state I can share it with you. So I thought, while I'm working away on that, I'd put a little something out in the meantime. So here comes season three and a half, a short series on the subject of weeds, what they're trying to tell us, and how they can lead us to a beter understanding of our gardens. Listen to the trailer for an idea of what's in store...

Gardens for Good Causes, with Hattie Ghaui A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack The glory of October 3:25 Reading from Kew Gardens, by Virginia Woolf. Written in 1919, available in hardback from Kew Publications, 2018 Read by Milli Proust 8:19 Interview with Hattie Ghaui 9:00 A summary of Project Giving Back's work... 10:56 … and how Hattie became involved 11:25 How PGB is funded 12:13 The original goal 12:30 Me, failing to get Hattie to preempt the announcement (made in late September) about the extension of the original remit 14:35 Hattie, repping the business world on Gardens, Weeds & Words! 15:00 Hattie's own childhood memories of plants and gardens 22:20 Hattie's present garden and gardening style 24:29 An unexpected plug for To Stand and Stare 25:15 Hacking Big Money for charities at the RHS Chelsea Flower Show. Can philanthropy really help? 31:02 PGB's due diligence process for charities and corporate partners 34:45 What kind of difference can Chelsea make to a charity? Gardens for good causes, the PGB podcast https://www.givingback.org.uk/podcasts 40:27 The variety of different charities supported 41:36 Sustainability at Chelsea, and the legacy of a PGB show garden 45:23 Keep asking the questions, PGB and the RHS 47:20 A few stand out PGB projects 50:09 The long term impact of the gardens 53:41 Book writing – To Stand and Stare, and what comes next from me *** Thank you to Hattie Ghaui for joining me on this episode of the Gardens, Weeds & Words podcast. You can find Hattie on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hghaui/ and Project Giving Back here https://www.instagram.com/project.giving.back/ and on the web here https://www.givingback.org.uk/ With thanks once again to Milli Proust for this episode's reading. Milli's beautiful instagram is here https://www.instagram.com/milliproust/ My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here https://geni.us/Qs2d I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up after Christmas, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Cracking ice while walking through the fields – is it too soon to say, or is winter beginning to think about handing over to spring? A great time for mulching. Reading from To stand and stare 3:02 Read by Andrew Timothy O'Brien To stand and stare: how to garden while doing next to nothing, by Andrew Timothy O'Brien. DK Life, 2023. https://geni.us/Qs2d 05:47 Interview with Andrew, by Alice Vincent 06:40 role reversal 07:35 Introducing the book – Andrew 09:14 Introducing the book – Alice 10:00 A book that grants permission 11:12 on the plus side of getting it wrong 11:46 jumping to the book's Acknowledgements 14:00 how the book came to be 17:56 Alice on 'looking' 20:48 Alice on gardening as 'a tiny altering' 21:52 being empowered to garden the way you want to, rather than the way you feel you *should* 22:33 Andrew on the pros and cons of lists 26:08 Pottering A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler. Bloomsbury, 1997. https://amzn.to/3Stlvr9 28: 41 How much the soil holds – memories, stories, our selves 33:15 Bill's place in the book 38:15 The 'how to' sections 43:19 The research – the 'science stuff' 46:30 Andrew's recent standing and staring – and Andrew answer to an Alice question *** Thank you to Alice Vincent for her table-turning stint in coming to interview me on my own podcast! Keep an eye out for Alice's upcoming book, Why Women Grow: stories of soil, sisterhood and survival, published by Canongate on 2 March 2023. https://amzn.to/3k6yu75 You can find Alice on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/noughticulture/ and the Why Women Grow podcast here https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/why-women-grow/id1659885168 My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, is published by DK Life, and is available here https://geni.us/Qs2d I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up in spring 2023, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. http://www.andrewtimothyobrien.com website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack The joys of October in the garden. Reading from A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler 4:28 Read by Jemma Cooper A breath from elsewhere, by Mirabel Osler. Bloomsbury, 1997. https://amzn.to/3Stlvr9 06:52 Gardening in the shade 08:10 Interview with Susanna Grant 08:20 First encounters Wild about Weeds, by Jack Wallington https://amzn.to/3FbVU31 09:17 Sharing weeds (and weeds) 10:48 How the name – and the business – 'Linda' came about 12:35 A Jack of All Trades – Susanna's other work 16:11 A Fair Weather Shop 19:26 Susanna's childhood memories of plants and the natural world Flower Fairy books, by Cicely Mary Barker https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09PGM2YBD?binding=hardcover&searchxofy=true&ref_=dbs_s_bs_series_rwt_thcv&qid=1666786266&sr=1-19 Observer Book of Wild Flowers https://amzn.to/3SxxWCo 21:26 Arnold Circus and the Boundary Estate – the community garden Radicle, edited by Sui Searle aka @decolonisethegarden https://radicle.substack.com Volunteering: a problem and an opportunity? by Joanna Pidcock https://radicle.substack.com/p/volunteering-a-problem-and-an-opportunity 29:49 From Gardens Where We Feel Secure, by Susanna Grant and Rowan Spray, published by Rough Trade Books and The Garden Museum https://amzn.to/3Dpdrn4 35:31 Practicalities of window box gardening with perennials *** Thank you to Susanna Grant for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative nature-inspired practice. Susanna's book Shade is published by Bloom, 2022, and is available here https://amzn.to/3F6eGsu The Rough Trade/Garden Museum pamphlet by Susanna, with photography by Rowan Spray is From Gardens Where We Feel Secure, and is available here https://amzn.to/3Dpdrn4 Pamphlets in the same series, such as Horticultural Appropriation by Claire Ratinon and Sam Ayre, are also available here https://roughtradebooks.com/collections/editions You can find Susanna on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/hellotherelinda Or on her website: https://www.hellotherelinda.com/ My own book, To Stand and Stare; how to garden by doing next to nothing, will be published by DK Life on Feb 2, 2023, and is available to preorder here https://geni.us/Qs2d I'm so grateful to Jemma Cooper for lending us her lovely tones for the reading from Mirabel Osler's A breath from elsewhere. You can find Jem on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/thecountrynurse_ I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details. There will be a few spaces opening up early in the new year, so do sign up to be the first to hear when you can book. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A plant-inspired practice. With Katie Robbins A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Pondering the onset of winter, with twinkling lights and fried potatoes. Seasonal markers, and The Almanac from Lia Leendertz. Catching up with Lia Leendertz. What's new in the 2021 edition? 03:44 Reading from The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide to 2021 10:28 https://amzn.to/36LqUFH Read by Milli Proust The independent plant-inspired businesses bringing cheer and lightening our darkness. Interview with Katie Robbins 13:22 14:50 A love of the natural world and of ceramics 16:02 The formative planty encounter -- sunflowers, a flat cap and a fag 18:40 Potter... or ceramic artist? 19:52 If not a potter, would Katie have worked with plants in some other way? Grace Alexander flowers: https://www.gracealexanderflowers.co.uk/ Milli Proust: https://www.milliproust.com/about Bex Partridge (Botanical Tales): https://www.botanicaltales.com/ 21:50 The power of a good parcel, and delighting your customer Beautiful and sustainable packaging https://www.ktrobbinsceramics.com/blog/2020/8/24/beautiful-safe-and-sustainable-packaging 24:49 A journey to the potter's wheel 26:43 The shortest commute -- working from home. Pluses and minuses of the WfH life 29:12 A tour of the garden studio 34:57 Katie's creative process 40:17 Inspiration from peers 41:48 The inevitabilities of creative cross-fertilisation 44:23 Working in porcelain 46:49 Clay from the ground 50:00 Inspirations *** Thank you to Katie Robbins for giving up her time to talk to me about her creative plant-inspired practice. You can find Katie on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/ceramicmagpie/ Or on her website: https://www.ktrobbinsceramics.com/ Thanks also to Lia Leendertz for joining me to talk about The Almanac: A Seasonal Guide to 2021 https://amzn.to/36LqUFH I'm immensely grateful to Milli Proust for lending us her mellifluous tones for the reading. And of course, I'm ever appreciative of all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details and add your name to the waiting list to be the first to hear when enrolment opens up again. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Back after a break for the last episode in the series Dogs and gardening Lockdown and #BlackLivesMatter – did these change how you felt about your garden? Privilege in the gardening world Telling the stories of plants Reading 05:30 Extract from 'Science and Colonial Expansion. The role of the British Royal Botanical Gardens' by Lucile H. Brockway in American Ethnologist, Journal of the American Ethnological Society, Volume 6 Issue 3, 1979, read by Sui Searle. https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/ae.1979.6.3.02a00030 The book of the same name, available here: https://amzn.to/2PbSC4z Gardening should be political – more of this in series three. Gratitude, privilege and responsibility – what that's meant to me in lockdown Interview with the Ann Marie Powell 11:20 11:48 What's behind @myrealgarden? 15:22 Plants, People, Place 18:37 Living in a horticultural household, and how it effects domestic gardening 22:12 How Ann-Marie became a garden designer 23:16 Horticulture within the education system – being given the choice 25:18 Andrew talking absolute rubbish about "gardening with your ears" 27:10 Ann-Marie Powell Gardens – the vital importance of a great team 31:17 The effect of the Hampshire landscape on AMPG's design work 33:47 Is there anything the RHS needs to learn when it comes to reaching new people with shows like Chelsea? 38:56 Ann-Marie's gardens at RHS Wisley in Surrey 42:43 Pro-bono work for Greenfingers charity https://www.greenfingerscharity.org.uk/ 46:03 Quickfire EITHER/OR questions! Fatsia japonica https://www.shootgardening.co.uk/plant/fatsia-japonica Schefflera rhododendrifolia https://www.shootgardening.co.uk/plant/schefflera-rhododendrifolia Crûg Farm Nursery https://www.crug-farm.co.uk/ *** Gratitude, privilege and responsibility vs Plants, People, Place. Pick your mantra! Thank you to Ann-Marie for joining me on this episode. You can find Ann-Marie online here: AMPG website: https://www.ann-mariepowell.com/ Ann Marie's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ann_mariepowell/ The @myrealgarden instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/myrealgarden/ And also to Sui Searle for reading from the Lucile H. Brockway paper. You can find Sui on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/thetemperategardener/ and here https://www.instagram.com/decolonisethegarden/ I'm ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. A year of garden coaching If you'd like to find out more about my my 12 month online garden coaching programme, please visit the website, where you can read more details and add your name to the waiting list to be the first to hear when enrolment opens up again. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Birdsong, and gardening in the new normal. Gardening in one place over time. Reading 04:00 Extract from The Garden Log Podcast, episode 74, read by the host, Ben Dark. https://thegardenlog.libsyn.com/ Interview with the Katie Rushworth 05:51 06:21 Not the only Yorkshire-born gardener on the telly… 07:00 Katie's experience of nature and plants growing up 09:29 Chomping for wood! 10:12 The place of the Yorkshire landscape in Katie's garden design work 11:44 Gardening is about a feeling 12:43 Before gardening… 16:32 Juggling gardening, TV schedules and being a mum 17:43 Transferrable skills – an appreciation of colour, shape, form and texture 19:11 Garden coaching and mentoring 26:35 Domestic gardens 27:21 Practical, useful & pretty 30:42 The biggest obstacles people face in their gardens 32:54 Plants – just pretty window dressing, or more than fluff? 36:25 Productively using our time in the garden *** Thank you to Katie for joining me on this episode. Katie's book Plants, Beds & Borders is available here https://amzn.to/3ayCySE Katie's website: http://katierushworth.com/ Katie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thequeenofspades00/ I'm ever grateful to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. Lockdown discounts: A year of garden coaching I've been very excited about my new venture – even before the lockdown I'd decided that online garden coaching would be a fantastic way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. With the all the uncertainty around our lives just now I'm holding the the introductory price for the full 12 month programme as well as offering a quarterly payment plan, and there's 50% off an hour's Skype consultation call. https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Almost March. Children in the garden… …a gardener's perspective The gardener in the garden… …a child's perspective Poem 03:04 The Gardener by Robert Louis Stevenson Read by Peta Cootes Early experiences of plants and gardens – a minor obsession How do you get kid's gardening? Interview with the Skinny Jean Gardener, Lee Connelly 09:21 10:14 What's this about Skinny Jeans? 12:07 The Skinny Jean Gardener podcast and Monty Don 14:40 Being the Blue Peter gardener 16:58 Lee's early plant and garden memories 21:11 Time for gardening as a family 22:53 The importance of getting children interested in gardening 25:00 The role of schools and parents 27:40 Schools allotment project with Marks & Spencer 30:55 Ornamentals or veg? What has the most educational value for children? 34:53 The new book, How to Get Kids Gardening *** Thank you to Lee for joining me on this episode. Lee's book is How to Get Kids Gardening https://amzn.to/2wQYUkc The Skinny Jean Gardener Podcast is here http://skinnyjeangardener.co.uk/podcast Lee on Instagram instagram.com/skinnyjeangardener. Thanks too to Peta Coote for reading for us. You can find Peta and her work here instagram.com/nourishingsoulfully With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I'm very excited about my new venture – it's a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Healing nature. With Alys Fowler A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack January, getting back out into the garden. Rains and flooding. A sign that not all's ok with our relationship with nature Micro book review 03:30 from The Garden Jungle or Gardening to Save the Planet by Dave Goulson. Published by Jonathan Cape July 2019 https://amzn.to/2ZRfueo Extract read by Rachel Coldbreath Insect declines and why they matter, Dave Goulson, FRES, 2019. Dorset Wildlife Trust https://www.flipsnack.com/devonwildlifetrust/insect-declines/full-view.html Interview with Alys Fowler 06:04 07:05 Urban vs. country – where were Alys's skills for observing the natural world honed? 09:03 Nature under your feet. Being detail orientated. 09:55 Plant blind Plant blindness Wandersee, J. H., & Schussler, E. E. (1999). Preventing plant blindness. The American Biology Teacher, 61, 82–86. https://abt.ucpress.edu/content/61/2/82 Wikipedia Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_blindness Article on Plant Blindness by Sandy Knapp of the Natural History Museum (London) https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ppp3.36 12:20 The way we garden and how it interacts with the wider landscape 14:43 How well is the rewilding message being communicated? 15:20 A generational shift to a more sympathetic relationship with nature 16:35 Countering late stage capitalism 17:25 How long change takes 18:36 Caring in spite of it all 19:43 Mindfulness vs. paying attention 22:42 Vested interests and inertia 24:52 How our gardens help us to make sense of it all 26:29 Finding meaning and hope in a relationship with plants 27:25 What's the definition of a gardner? 28:32 Thrifty gardening – recycling 31:37 Style vs. meaning in the garden 34:20 A multi-faceted job description 36:55 The relationship of the garden to the house – pushing the boundaries 39:10 Approaches to making gardens 42:20 Japanese gardens – listening to nature 44:45 Control, dominion – human relationships to nature and the garden. Patriarchy, religion, feminism. 48:46 A Modern Herbal – Alys's take on herbs and herbals. 52:49 Gender roles in the transmission of herb lore 55:29 Herbal medicine and conventional medicine. Gayla Trail http://yougrowgirl.com/ https://www.instagram.com/yougrowgirl/ 56:40 Can we garden our way out of this, Alys?! *** New Year, New You. A new relationship with nature. Paying it back. Thank you to Alys for joining me on this episode. You can find Alys on Instagram here instagram.com/alysf and on the Guardian pages here https://www.theguardian.com/profile/alys-fowler. In the interview we talked about Alys's latest book, A Modern Herbal, published by Michael Joseph in 2019. You can find that here https://amzn.to/39DaVc4. Of course, as she says in the interview, the best way to get hold of her is by phone! Thanks too to Rachel Coldbreath for a cracking reading from Dave Goulson's book . With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I'm very excited about my new venture – it's a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. A few limited places left on introductory prices! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

Garden outlaws and weedy rebels. With Jack Wallington A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Distracted by leaves What happens when the landscape meets a garden fence? The benefits of cultivated plants Where weeds come in Reading 04:48 from Weeds. The Story of Outlaw Plants by Richard Mabey https://amzn.to/33Ni3Pv Read by Milli Proust. What do we mean by the word "weed"? Native wildflowers and non-native invasive intruders Stinking Bob and Squinterpip. Interview with Jack Wallington 10:50 11:15 What Jack was doing before he became a garden designer. The Royal Horticultural Society qualifications Levels 2 and 3 https://www.rhs.org.uk/education-learning/qualifications-and-training/rhs-qualifications Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh https://www.rhs.org.uk/education-learning/qualifications-and-training/rhs-qualifications 15:41 Jack's earliest experience of plants and gardens within the landscape 20:16 Is there a plant nearer to Jack's heart that the dahlia he's so often associated with? 21:46 Sustainability in Jack's work 24:44 The tension between how nature behaves, and how we want her to behave in the garden 27:50 Jack's new book, Wild about weeds. Garden design with rebel plants. 33:01 Responses to the idea of purposefully incorporating weeds into the garden. Thanks so much to Jack for coming along to talk about his new book, Wild about weeds. Garden design with rebel plants, published by Laurence King. https://amzn.to/2CHHiH4. The best place to find out more about Jack, his garden design practice and his personal gardening journey, is on his website at www.jackwallington.com. I'm also enormously indebted to Milli Proust for lending her wonderful voice skills to the podcast with the reading from Richard Mabey's book. You really should check out Milli's instagram page https://www.instagram.com/milliproust/ to see the amazing things she does with flowers – I don't think there can be a grower who works harder. For a fully rounded picture of everything that she gets up to, check out Milli's website at https://milliproust.com/. With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. One-to-one online garden coaching I'm very excited about my new venture – it's a way for me to work with more people than I can physically get around to, helping them to make the very best of their gardens in a way that suits the life they lead. If you'd like to find out more, please leave me your email address on the following link. I'll be sure to let you know as soon as soon as this launches! https://www.gardensweedsandwords.com/garden-coaching-prelaunch website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB

S02 Episode 1: Nature all around. With Caro Langton A blend of slow radio, gardening advice and conversation, and readings from the best garden and wildlife writing. These notes may contain affiliate links. Garden soundtrack Autumn is here Nature all around us Reading 03:40 To Autumn by John Keats Read by Rose White, Richard Chivers and Rachel Coldbreath. 05:55 Nature Unnoticed 07:28 The pot of basil Interview with Caro Langton 08:46 09:25 House of Plants 10:09 Where did the journey into plant obsession begin for Caro? 13:41 What's going on in the plant:person equation? The Moth Snowstorm: nature and joy by Michael McCarthy https://amzn.to/2m5XmOn 17:23 Plant tribes and communities The Houseplant Festival at the London Garden Museum, 21 September 2019 https://gardenmuseum.org.uk/events/houseplant-festival/ 21:04 Plant installations 23:42 What makes a garden? 26:15 A deep connection with plants in a short space of time. 31:34 What's next in the RoCo story? Huge thanks to Caro for making time to talk to me about her work and her life with plants. You can find out more about Caro and the work she does with Rose Ray as RoCo here: website: https://www.ro-co.uk instagram: http://instagram.com/studio.roco House of Plants: living with succulents, air plants and cacti by Rose Ray and Caro Langton, published by Frances Lincoln 2016 https://amzn.to/2nxOtNP Root, Nurture, Grow: the essential guide to propagating and sharing houseplants by Caro Langton and Rose Ray, published by Quadrille 2018 https://amzn.to/2ls8IvO You can read my review of Root, Nurture, Grow here https://gardensweedsandwords.com/gwwblog/rootnurturegrow The effect of plants in the workplace on productivity… Nieuwenhuis, M., Knight, C., Postmes, T., & Haslam, S. A. (2014). The relative benefits of green versus lean office space: Three field experiments. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Applied, 20(3), 199-214. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-30837-001 Do plants increase workplace productivity? https://www.goget.com.au/blog/plants-in-the-office/ With thanks to all my listeners for your continued support and reviews, I really do appreciate them. You can support the podcast by buying its producer a virtual cup of coffee for three quid, at https://ko-fi.com/andrewtimothyOB. Proceeds will go towards equipment, software and the monthly podcast hosting fees. website: gardensweedsandwords.com email: gardensweedsandwords@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/AndrewTimothyOB Twitter: twitter.com/AndrewTimothyOB