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https://open.spotify.com/episode/3kw8uHSos6XKFrZncc2CEa Artificial intelligence is transforming the finance function, but most finance teams are still missing the skills to use it confidently, safely, and at scale. The real competitive advantage now lies in how quickly finance leaders can close this AI capability gap across their teams.  In this episode, GrowCFO host Kevin Appleby is joined by GrowCFO Facilitator and AI training specialist Guy Weaver to unpack the AI skills gap that is rapidly emerging across finance teams. As AI tools move from experiment to everyday infrastructure, finance leaders face a stark choice: either build the skills to harness these tools strategically or risk falling behind competitors who do. AI is presented not as a “nice to have” experiment, but as a core capability that will shape productivity, decision quality, and the operating model of modern finance functions.  Guy shares his journey from chartered accountant and venture capital portfolio director to AI practitioner and trainer, showing how a period on gardening leave became a deep dive into tools, agents, automations, and real-world business use cases. He explains that the real differentiator is no longer access to platforms like Copilot, Claude, or ChatGPT, but the human skills to design prompts, architect workflows, manage context files, and control costs at scale. Rather than eliminating finance jobs, AI is creating new responsibilities around context management, token and cost optimization, and continuous model evaluation—and finance leaders who invest early in mindset shifts, foundational skills, and disciplined experimentation will unlock both efficiency gains and new strategic opportunities that slower adopters will miss. Key topics covered: Why the AI skills gap is now a core strategic issue for finance leaders. Guy’s journey from chartered accountant and VC to AI trainer for finance teams. The essential foundational skills: prompting, architecture, and context management. How AI is creating new roles and responsibilities instead of simply removing jobs. Managing AI cost, tokens, and model choice like any other major operating expense. The danger of AI-built financial models without proper financial modeling discipline. Links Guy Weave on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps:  00:00–05:00 – Why AI skills matter for finance leaders and how Guy’s career led him into AI training.  05:00–12:00 – From “AI will take our jobs” to new responsibilities around AI, context, and automation.  12:00–18:00 – Prompting, architecture, treating AI like an employee, and managing context files.  18:00–24:00 – Who owns context files, how they’re maintained, and the implications for CFOs and COOs.  24:00–29:00 – Rising AI costs, token limits, and the need to optimize AI usage across the finance function.  29:00–34:00 – What Guy sees in finance training sessions and how teams can keep up as tools evolve. Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

https://open.spotify.com/episode/47RAQ1TXbfnlvIjsxzCHwH Delaying action on emerging technologies is often seen as the safest path for finance leaders. But in today’s environment, standing still can quietly erode competitiveness faster than visible missteps. For CFOs, the choice is no longer between perfection and experimentation; it is between shaping how intelligent tools transform their business model, or inheriting a cost base, tech stack, and operating rhythm that were designed for a world that no longer exists. The real risk now lies in missed efficiencies, slower decision cycles, and constrained strategic options when rivals are already compounding the benefits of data- and AI-enabled finance. In this GrowCFO Show episode, host Kevin Appleby speaks with Todd McElhatton, CFO of Zuora, about why hesitating on AI adoption could be more damaging for CFOs than making imperfect early decisions. They frame AI not as a distant future technology, but as an immediate strategic lever that will separate adaptive finance leaders from those who are left managing obsolete operating models. The conversation stresses that waiting on AI often compounds operational risk, opportunity cost, and competitive disadvantage, especially for CFOs accountable for both efficiency and growth. Todd outlines how AI is reshaping finance, from quote-to-cash and system implementation to workforce design and governance. Drawing on his experience at HP, WebMD, Oracle, VMware, SAP, and now Zuora, he explains why CFOs must actively lead AI strategy, re-architect their tech stacks, and develop robust oversight rather than defaulting to conservative inaction. By the end of the episode, listeners gain a pragmatic view of where AI can deliver tangible value today, and why inaction may be the riskiest choice of all. Key topics covered: Todd charts his career journey across major tech companies and explains how it shaped his view of the CFO as both financial steward and operational leader. He details Zuora’s evolution into an AI-enabled quote-to-cash platform and how AI is accelerating shifts to new, outcome-based business models. Todd and Kevin unpack the build vs. buy decision around AI, highlighting integration, domain expertise, compliance, and governance as critical factors for CFOs. The discussion explores how AI can reduce rework, speed implementations, and reallocate finance capacity from manual tasks to higher-value analysis and decision-making. Todd argues that CFOs who hesitate on AI risk constraining strategy, delaying business model transformation, and missing efficiency and innovation gains competitors are already capturing. He shares his personal AI use cases: research, scenario analysis, and board preparation, while emphasizing human oversight, skepticism, and multi-model validation. Links Todd McElhatton on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps:  0:00:00 – How roles at HP, WebMD, Oracle, VMware, and SAP shaped his perspective on the modern CFO and why understanding operations is now non‑negotiable. 0:02:53 – How AI is impacting subscription and outcome-based business models, and why this forces companies to reassess their tech stacks. 0:06:27 – ZUORA’s internal journey: moving beyond pilots to AI projects that materially affect performance while maintaining human oversigh. 0:11:37 – The trade-offs between building AI in-house and buying AI-native systems of record, with a focus on integration, compliance, and risk. 0:19:04 – How AI will reshape implementation timelines, roles, and the skills finance teams need, plus the efficiency and innovation upside. 0:19:19 – Todd’s guidance on aligning AI and tech stack decisions with business strategy, and a cautionary example where system limitations stalled an acquisition. 0:32:00 – How Todd uses AI for research, analysis, and board materials while maintaining critical thinking and cross-checking outputs across models. 0:36:21 – A closing argument for CFOs to lead AI adoption, embrace calculated risk, and redeploy teams from repetitive work to higher-value contributions. Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLJhHDOeYoc https://open.spotify.com/episode/05kTRvPnWeF66oWELGTfsm Access to capital is no longer cheap or guaranteed. Companies that once grew by “buying” growth with aggressive spend are now being forced to prove they can scale in a way that’s sustainable, repeatable, and cash‑efficient.   Kevin Appleby sits down with Manu Diwakar, Chief Financial Officer at Virta Health, to unpack how high‑growth companies can scale aggressively without setting fire to their cash reserves  Manu draws on a career that spans Riot Games, the creator economy, AgTech, and now digital health, to show what disciplined, intelligent growth really looks like in practice. This isn’t theory; it’s the lived experience of a CFO who has repeatedly joined businesses in the steep part of the growth curve and helped them mature without losing their edge. Manu explains how Virta Health is tackling the massive, expensive problem of metabolic disease with a model that reverses conditions like type 2 diabetes while also reducing healthcare costs  Along the way, he breaks down how to think about capital efficiency, when to raise versus when to generate and reinvest your own cash, and why talent, culture, and clear unit economics beat vanity metrics every time. For finance leaders and founders who want to scale with ambition—but keep control of the runway—this conversation offers a grounded, experience‑driven playbook. Key topics covered: Manu’s journey from Riot Games to digital health and why he chooses roles where the business is still being built and scaled, not just maintained  How Virta Health’s model reverses metabolic disease while lowering costs, and what that teaches about aligning mission, product, and economics  Why scaling without burning cash starts with clear value delivery, not price cuts—especially in tough capital markets  The importance of hiring for growth: building teams whose capabilities can stretch with the business rather than constantly hiring “the next tier up”  How a CFO can balance regulation, data security, and innovation in complex sectors like digital healthcare  Manu’s advice to aspiring CFOs: prioritize environments with steep learning, strong teammates, and real growth, not just impressive titles  Links Manu Diwakar on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps:  0:00 Manu’s career in high‑growth companies – From Riot Games to Virta Health and why he gravitates to businesses that are still being built and scaled  4:00 Virta Health’s mission and metabolic disease explained – What metabolic disease really is and how Virta’s approach tackles the root cause, not just symptoms  8:20 Business model and unit economics – How partnering with health plans and employers, and charging per engaged patient, underpins a scalable, cash‑efficient model  12:10 Regulatory complexity vs. innovation – Balancing cost efficiency, patient outcomes, data security, and compliance in digital healthcare  15:40 Scaling without over‑spending – Generating capital internally, reinvesting in growth, and resisting the temptation to chase volume with discounts  19:30 Talent and leadership in scaling teams – Lessons from Riot on hiring for potential, designing growth paths, and building a high‑calibre environment  30:50 Career advice for future CFOs – Why continuous learning, working in truly growing businesses, and choosing stellar leaders matters more than almost anything else  Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i6KEoQt1PQ https://open.spotify.com/episode/31OO5n3ePbBErPCklIhUim For modern finance leaders, staying offline is no longer a neutral choice. In an environment where boards, CEOs, and recruiters routinely research candidates before they ever meet them, a CFO’s digital presence has become a critical part of their professional reputation. This episode explores why even the most technically strong CFOs risk being overlooked if their expertise is invisible online—and how a thoughtful, strategic presence can amplify their impact, influence, and career opportunities. In this episode, Kevin Appleby interviews Wassia Kamon, Chief Financial Officer at ACE, on why modern CFOs who remain offline are increasingly being overlooked for senior roles and strategic opportunities. Wassia explains that technical excellence and a strong CV are no longer enough on their own; in a world where boards, CEOs, recruiters, and investors routinely research leaders online, a CFO’s digital footprint now forms a critical part of their professional reputation. The discussion positions online presence not as vanity marketing, but as a strategic leadership tool for signalling credibility, expertise, and relevance. Wassia breaks down how finance leaders can translate their offline achievements into a thoughtful online narrative, especially on platforms like LinkedIn. She explores the risks of staying invisible—missed promotions, fewer board invitations, and weaker influence in the market—and contrasts that with the compounding benefits of controlled visibility: attracting better opportunities, shaping industry conversations, and building trust at scale. Throughout the episode, she offers practical, realistic steps for time-poor CFOs to build a presence that aligns with their values, protects their reputation, and supports both their organisation’s brand and their own long‑term career. Key topics covered: Why relying on “my work will speak for itself” is dangerous for CFOs in an era where decision‑makers research leaders online before ever speaking to them. The specific ways a weak or non‑existent LinkedIn presence can cause a CFO to be passed over for roles, speaking engagements, and advisory positions. How CFOs can reframe personal branding as professional positioning—focusing on credibility, clarity of message, and service to stakeholders rather than self‑promotion. Practical tactics for busy finance leaders to build an online presence in under 30 minutes a week, without feeling inauthentic or overly self‑promotional. The role of thought leadership content (posts, articles, podcast appearances, panels) in signalling strategic capability beyond accounting and control. How a visible, values‑aligned online presence helps CFOs attract better talent, influence key external stakeholders, and future‑proof their careers against rapid change and AI disruption.  Links Wassia Kamon on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps:  00:00–03:00 – Introduction: why staying offline is no longer a neutral choice for CFOs and how visibility influences who gets noticed for top roles. 03:00–10:00 – Wassia’s perspective on how boards, recruiters, and CEOs research candidates online and what they expect to see from a modern finance leader. 10:00–18:00 – Breaking the “I’m not a marketer” mindset: reframing personal branding as risk management, professional positioning, and stakeholder communication. 18:00–28:00 – Concrete examples of simple, repeatable LinkedIn habits CFOs can build—profile optimisation, commenting, and sharing expertise in a low‑friction way. 28:00–36:00 – How visibility ties directly into influence: winning internal sponsorship, attracting external opportunities, and shaping perception of the finance function. 36:00–44:00 – Final playbook: a realistic weekly routine for CFOs to maintain an online presence without sacrificing core responsibilities. Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnQ5K1BNAl8 https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Rtn6WPqsCzQmMDOZOSnmV Nonprofit finance often lags behind its for-profit counterpart due to structural funding constraints, donor reporting requirements, and historical expectations of finance as a back-office cost center rather than a strategy partner. This episode examines why nonprofit financial leadership is perceived to be about a decade behind and outlines concrete ways to modernize the CFO role—shifting from retrospective accounting to forward-looking strategy, donor partnership, and operational rigor that sustains mission at scale . In this episode, Kevin Appleby hosts Ilana Esterrich, a GrowCFO Mentor and experienced nonprofit CFO, for a practical discussion on elevating nonprofit finance. Esterrich draws on a career spanning consulting, large corporates, and mission-driven organizations to explain how nonprofit finance must evolve from traditional, retroactive accounting to a strategic, value-creating function. She underscores that “no money, no mission,” and argues for disciplined investment in back-office capabilities—finance operations, legal, and technology—to build a foundation that enables programs to scale sustainably . Kevin and Ilana discuss the growing expectations on nonprofit CFOs: scenario planning, interpreting donor intent, creative application of restricted funds, and partnering closely with development leaders. Esterrich also emphasizes people-centric leadership, shaped by her military background, and the importance of mentoring CFOs transitioning from “scorekeeper” to strategic leader. The conversation offers actionable insights for closing the perceived 10-year gap with for-profit finance, focusing on operational efficiency, stakeholder communication, and aligning finance with mission outcomes. Key topics covered: “No money, no mission”: nonprofits need a growth mindset and disciplined investment in back-office foundations to scale programs responsibly  Why nonprofit finance lags: CFO roles historically centered on backward-looking reporting versus forward-looking strategic architecture Closing the gap: scenario planning, clarity on donor intent, creative use of funds, and operational efficiencies that reduce the cost to raise a dollar  Donor partnership: educating funders on the true cost of delivery and the need to resource “admin” to strengthen mission outcomes  Evolving CFO leadership: influence beyond finance, managing larger teams, and aligning finance early with strategy discussions   People-centric finance leadership: mission-first lessons from the military and mentoring the next generation of nonprofit CFOs    Links Ilana Esterrich on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps:  0:03:03 — “No money, no mission” and the case for investing in back office to strengthen program delivery  0:05:59 — Navigating donor-imposed admin limits and bringing donors into the operational reality  0:07:47 — CFO partnership with development and the shift toward direct donor engagement and reporting design  0:08:56 — Why nonprofit finance is ~10 years behind and the move from scorekeeping to strategic CFO  0:11:53 — Mentoring focus: helping CFOs become strategic value creators and people leaders  0:18:41 — Military-informed leadership principles applied to modern nonprofit finance teams  Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUuZyQZl1bI https://open.spotify.com/episode/7mFdcXjDTwb48H7AwuptDP In this episode, Kevin Appleby hosts Acterys leaders Eric Reyhle (SVP Global Alliances) and Manuel Marcos (Regional Director EMEA/LATAM) to explore 2026: The Six Defining Challenges for the Office of the CFO. The conversation opens by underscoring why 2026 is a pivotal inflection point: the convergence of mature enterprise data platforms (e.g., Microsoft Fabric), governed data foundations, and practical AI that elevates finance from historical reporting to forward-looking decisioning. The guests frame AI’s promise and risks candidly—AI is transformative, but only as trustworthy as the underlying data and governance that feed it. Across the discussion, Eric and Manuel translate technical change into finance impact: continuous planning over static, snapshot budgeting; predictive and scenario-driven decisions over backward-looking reporting; and a shift from spreadsheet “systems of record” to governed, auditable platforms that keep Excel/Power BI as the familiar front-end. They emphasize cyber resilience as a CFO mandate with direct P&L and valuation consequences, and outline a pragmatic path: modernize the data foundation, embed governance, enable real-time write-back and scenario modeling, and apply AI to augment—not replace—finance judgment. The result is a finance function positioned to deliver strategic foresight and resilient performance in 2026 and beyond. Key topics covered: Why 2026 is the inflection point: convergence of AI, governed data, and enterprise platforms like Microsoft Fabric. From historian to pilot: AI automates consolidation/reconciliations and unlocks predictive forecasting and rapid scenario modeling. Keep Excel/Power BI; fix the back end: shift from spreadsheet “system of record” to governed, auditable, AI-ready data with real-time write-back. Cyber resilience is a CFO issue: attacks translate directly to P&L, cash flow, and valuation—governance and access control are non-negotiable. Continuous planning replaces static snapshots: always-on data flow enables weekly/biweekly scenario refreshes and faster decisions. Practical impact: 50–70% reduction in manual consolidation effort; 3–5x faster planning cycles; instant “what-if” responses for leadership. Links Eric Reyhle on LinkedIn Manuel Marcos on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps 00:03 Why 2026 is pivotal: AI goes mainstream as data platforms mature; finance and IT must converge. 00:11 Finance’s shift: from manual reconciliations to predictive forecasts, anomaly detection, and rapid scenario simulations. 00:16 Keep Excel/Power BI; govern the data: front-end familiarity with a secure, auditable back end and real-time write-back. 00:22 Data lake/warehouse/mart “kitchen” analogy for finance–IT alignment and model design. 00:23 Cybersecurity as a CFO mandate; the real risk of uncontrolled spreadsheets vs. governed environments. 00:35 Quantified benefits: 50–70% less manual consolidation; 3–5x faster forecasting/budgeting; instant “what-if” analysis. 00:39 Continuous planning defined: why snapshots are obsolete and how always-on data enables dynamic plans. 00:45 Microsoft Fabric as connective data tissue; build on the stack users already know 00:47 From reactive reporting to strategic foresight; leveraging granular operational data for predictive decisions. 00:53 What differentiates 2026 leaders: modern data foundations, governance, AI augmentation, and cross-functional collaboration. Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net