What now for IS fighters' families + quitting the Libs for 'Something Better'

What now for IS fighters' families + quitting the Libs for 'Something Better'

From Hack by triplej

May 7, 2026 · 31 min

About this episode

The episode discusses the return of ISIS brides and their children to Australia and the political shift of Charlotte Mortlock from the Liberal Party to starting a new political movement.

A group of so-called 'ISIS brides' and their children have returned to Australia. There's been fierce debate about how to handle the cohort who have been living in refugee camps for years. We speak to a leading counter-terrorism expert about what their return could mean for national security. And just a few months ago, Charlotte Mortlock was a strong supporter of the Liberal Party and leading a network aimed at encouraging more women to join. Now she's trying to build a new party, says she has no hope for the Liberals. So what's changed? Listen now: 01:09 - What happens now for 'ISIS brides' and children 11:43 - Quitting the Liberals and starting a new political movement Guests: Ben Saul, United Nations Special Rapporteur on counter terrorism and human rights Charlotte Mortlock, founder, Something Better Get the whole story from hack: Follow us on Instagram and TikTok Subscribe to the hack podcast Listen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

People in this episode

Host: triplej

Guests: Ben Saul, Charlotte Mortlock

Topics covered

  • ISIS brides
  • national security
  • political movement
  • Liberal Party
  • counter-terrorism

Keywords

  • ISIS brides
  • national security
  • Charlotte Mortlock
  • Liberal Party
  • counter-terrorism
  • political movement

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: United Nations, Liberal Party, Something Better

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