
HER Extraordinary LIFE By Design
by Leslie Gaudet
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Heather Simco: Burnout, Boundaries, and the Path Back to Yourself
Aug 30, 2026
42m 48s
You Don’t Have to Burn It All Down to Live Differently
Aug 29, 2026
27m 31s
The Burnout Epidemic: A Candid Conversation with Amity Morales
Aug 23, 2026
51m 26s
What happens when the job isn’t what’s burning you out?
Aug 22, 2026
17m 21s
Cass Uk: Prevention Is the Most Powerful Strategy Nobody Talks About
Aug 16, 2026
33m 42s
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| 8/30/26 | Heather Simco: Burnout, Boundaries, and the Path Back to Yourself | Join Leslie Gaudet and Heather Simco, transformation coach and founder of Complete Concierge Solutions and Sober Boss Babe, for a raw, honest, and deeply empowering conversation about what burnout is really telling you — and what becomes possible when you finally stop pushing through and start rebuilding from within. Heather's journey is anything but ordinary. Growing up in a dysfunctional family environment, navigating her own personal battles, making a remarkable transition from MMA to ministry, and building 12 years of sobriety alongside a thriving coaching business — she understands from the inside out what it costs to live out of alignment for too long. And she has dedicated her work to making sure other women don’t have to pay that price alone. In this episode, Heather opens up about why burnout so often has nothing to do with how hard you are working and everything to do with how long you have been living without healthy boundaries, why sobriety is not just a recovery word but a powerful philosophy around mental, physical, and emotional clarity, and what self-sabotage actually looks like in high-achieving women — and how to finally break free from it. If you’ve been running on empty and telling yourself that pushing through is just part of the deal — this conversation is going to change the way you think about burnout, boundaries, and what you actually deserve. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Heather Simco. https://linktr.ee/heathersimco Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 42m 48s | ||||||
| 8/29/26 | You Don’t Have to Burn It All Down to Live Differently | You don’t have to burn your life down to create more of the life you actually want to experience. In this final solo episode of the August burnout series, Leslie explores burnout recovery, energy, work-life balance, and what intentional living can look like for high-performing women who are ready to stop postponing the life they actually want to experience. From sitting behind a desk in a beautiful place she rarely takes time to enjoy, to realizing that the version of success that mattered in one season may not belong in the next, Leslie reflects on what it can look like to design your life without needing a five-year plan, a dramatic reinvention, or every answer before you begin. Sometimes the next step is much smaller. An afternoon away from the desk. A little more space. One choice that belongs to the life you’re living now. Because the goal isn’t simply to avoid burnout. It’s to have enough of yourself left to experience the life you’re working so hard to build. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 27m 31s | ||||||
| 8/23/26 | The Burnout Epidemic: A Candid Conversation with Amity Morales | In this special archival episode, Leslie Gaudet revisits a raw and unforgettable conversation she had with Amity Morales, transformational mentor, teacher, guide, and CEO — a woman who has been in business since she was 15 years old and who knows firsthand what it costs to keep going when everything inside you is asking you to stop. This is not a polished framework or a step-by-step guide. This is two women sitting down and telling the truth about what burnout actually looked like in their lives — the physical collapse, the nervous system in freefall, the moment the body finally said enough, and the long, sometimes painful journey back to wholeness. Amity opens up about running multiple companies while caring for her grandmother in hospice during COVID, the physical toll of chronic stress that left her unable to get up off the floor, and the dark night of the soul that ultimately became her breakthrough. You will also hear how childhood trauma and limiting beliefs around worthiness quietly fuel burnout in ways most women never connect, why comparison is one of the most powerful forms of self-sabotage, and what it actually means to love yourself enough to finally make yourself the priority. If you’ve ever told yourself you can handle it — right up until the moment you couldn’t — this conversation is going to feel like someone finally put words to what you have been living. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************* Connect with Amity Morales here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amity-morales-120520158/ Www.Raicesdeexito.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 51m 26s | ||||||
| 8/22/26 | What happens when the job isn’t what’s burning you out? | In this deeply personal solo episode, Leslie shares an experience from her legal career where the work wasn’t the problem. She knew how to do the job. What she didn’t fully understand at the time was the emotional toll of working with someone who repeatedly questioned, belittled, and undermined her. Even after she finally left, the experience followed her into her next position—showing up in something as ordinary as asking whether she was allowed to send an email she already knew how to write. This conversation explores workplace burnout, difficult professional relationships, self-doubt, confidence, and the shame that can come afterward when you find yourself wondering: Why did I stay so long? Because sometimes the more important question isn’t whether you can handle the job. It’s what handling it is costing you. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 17m 21s | ||||||
| 8/16/26 | Cass Uk: Prevention Is the Most Powerful Strategy Nobody Talks About | Join Leslie Gaudet and Cass Uk, award-winning entrepreneur, former NHS Registered Nurse, author, speaker, and Founder and CEO of Tolicious, for a bold and deeply personal conversation about what it truly takes to build a purpose-driven life and business without burning yourself out in the process. Cass's journey is anything but ordinary. After years working as a registered nurse across Nigeria, Dominica, and the UK, she survived a life-threatening postpartum recovery, left the security of her nursing career, and built Tolicious from the ground up while working full time — eventually becoming the first Black female founder to secure Spark Funding through the North East Accelerator Programme. Her mission is clear: self-care is not selfish. It’s survival. In this episode, Cass opens up about what she witnessed in her nursing career that made prevention feel urgent rather than optional, what surviving a life-threatening postpartum experience revealed to her about her body and her purpose, and what it truly required of her to leave a secure career and build something meaningful from scratch. You’ll also hear why she believes every woman needs to stop waiting for permission and start claiming the life she actually wants. If you have been building something extraordinary while quietly running on empty — this conversation is going to speak directly to you. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Cass UK. Business & Speaking: https://cassukonline.com Wellness Brand: https://www.tolicious.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassuk Instagram (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/cassukonline TikTok (Personal): https://www.tiktok.com/@cassukonline Facebook (Personal): https://www.facebook.com/cassukonline Tolicious: https://www.tolicious.com Instagram (Tolicious): https://www.instagram.com/toliciousbrand LinkedIn (Tolicious): https://www.linkedin.com/company/tolicious Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 33m 42s | ||||||
| 8/15/26 | Burnout Hides in the Ordinary — The Footprints We Keep Explaining Away | Burnout doesn’t always arrive with a dramatic collapse. Sometimes it shows up in the ordinary things you keep explaining away. The sleep that hasn’t been great lately. The irritability you blame on a busy week. The work you normally enjoy that suddenly feels heavier. The Sunday afternoon feeling that starts before the weekend is even over. In this solo episode, Self-Care Strategist Leslie Gaudet explores burnout, chronic stress, energy, capacity, and the patterns high-performing women can miss because they’re still functioning, still delivering, and still getting things done. Because every footprint can have a perfectly reasonable explanation. But what happens when you stop looking at each one separately and start looking at the trail? If you’ve been telling yourself you’re just tired, just busy, just distracted, or that things will settle down soon, this conversation may help you notice what your own patterns have been trying to tell you. The question isn’t simply whether you’re burned out. It’s: What have you been explaining away because each thing, on its own, didn’t seem important enough to pay attention to? ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 29m 08s | ||||||
| 8/9/26 | Lauren Golen: The Pattern Underneath the Performance | Join Leslie Gaudet and Lauren Golen, embodiment teacher, breath-based practitioner, and coach to founders and women leaders, for a deeply honest and powerful conversation about what is really running everything underneath decades of high performance, and what becomes possible when a woman finally learns to listen to her body before her mind catches up. With thirty years of body and breath-based practice and her own experience leading through real consequence, Lauren works at the intersection of embodiment, discernment, and faith. She doesn’t add better frameworks on top of existing patterns. She goes underneath them to the place where the real work has always been waiting. In this episode, Lauren opens up about the pattern that keeps showing up underneath even the most accomplished women's lives that no strategy has ever been able to touch, why high-achieving women become so skilled at normalizing what is actually unsustainable, and what it truly means to listen to your body before your mind has caught up. You will also hear how to begin distinguishing between what is yours to carry and what never was, what happens when a woman finally feels safe enough to stop performing and just be, and what freedom actually looks like for a woman who has spent decades succeeding her way to the top. If you have ever felt successful and somehow still not free, this conversation will help you understand why. And where to start. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space I have been sitting on for a while now — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Lauren Golen. https://substack.com/@laurengolen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 38m 21s | ||||||
| 8/8/26 | What Happens When “Just This Week” Becomes Every Week? | Some weeks are genuinely busy. But what happens when “I just need to get through this week” becomes the sentence you keep repeating every week? In this solo episode, Leslie talks about burnout, chronic stress, energy management, capacity, and the hidden cost of constantly pushing through. She shares what she noticed during one particularly full week—the rearranging, the overworking, the instinct to make everything fit, and the realization that being capable can become the reason we keep asking more from ourselves. For high-performing women who are used to handling a lot, the early signs of burnout don’t always look like falling apart. Sometimes you’re still working, meeting deadlines, answering emails, and getting everything done while exhaustion, irritability, mental overload, and lack of presence are becoming part of your normal week. This isn’t about never working hard. It’s about recognizing when a busy season has become a pattern and when pushing through is starting to affect your energy, wellbeing, work, relationships, and quality of life. Because the real question may not be: Can I handle it? It may be: What’s it costing me to keep proving that I can? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 24m 01s | ||||||
| 8/2/26 | Rena Duell: The Business Coach Who Learned the Hard Way and Now Teaches Women a Better Way | Join Leslie Gaudet and Rena Duell, business coach at One TEAM Partners and 25-year entrepreneur, for a refreshingly honest conversation about what burnout really costs — and what becomes possible when a woman finally decides to build her business and her life differently. Rena knows this journey from the inside out. After years of juggling leadership, motherhood, and constant demands, she hit a breaking point that impacted her health and forced her to completely rethink how she was living and working. That breakdown became her breakthrough and today she is the coach she wished she had back then. In this episode, Rena opens up about what hitting that wall actually looked like for her and the moment she knew something had to fundamentally change, why she believes you are the ceiling of your own business's success and what it truly takes to grow past it, and how her three-pillar approach of Awareness, Structure, and Habit creates sustainable results that stick long after the coaching ends. If you have been running on empty and telling yourself this is just the price of building something — this conversation is going to show you there is another way. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space I have been sitting on for a while now — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Rena Duell. oneteampartners.com https://www.instagram.com/coach__rena/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rena-duell/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 44m 26s | ||||||
| 8/1/26 | Who Gets to Decide Who You Become Next? | There are moments when the woman everyone sees and the evidence you can point to don’t seem to tell the same story. You speak with confidence. People trust what you know. You have created something real. And privately, you wonder: Am I becoming this woman, or am I pretending to be her? In this deeply honest episode, Leslie explores the tension between an established identity with decades of proof and an emerging one still being built. She speaks openly about business, revenue, time, the pressure to have arrived by now, and what it means to become someone different before the evidence feels undeniable. This is not a conversation about defeating imposter syndrome. It is a reflection on what is true, what remains unfinished, and who gets to decide when you have enough proof to claim the woman you are becoming. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 46m 18s | ||||||
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| 7/26/26 | Jacqueline T. Hill: The EMOTE Method - Profit Strategy for Women Playing the Long Game | Join Leslie Gaudet and Jacqueline T. Hill, strategic marketing advisor and fractional CMO, for a refreshingly direct conversation about what it truly means to build a business that doesn’t just make money — but keeps it. Jacqueline brings a rare perspective to this conversation — 17 years as an educator and Principal combined with nearly three decades in marketing. Where most focus on generating more leads, she focuses on what happens after the lead converts. Her work centers on profit margins, client retention, and the internal systems that determine whether a business grows sustainably or constantly chases its own tail. In this episode, Jacqueline breaks down why so many businesses are quietly leaking revenue without realizing it, what it takes to shift from hustle-driven to profit-first, and how her EMOTE Method™ identifies exactly where a business is losing money — before prescribing how to fix it. If you have been working hard but still feel like you are chasing rather than building — this one is for you. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space I have been sitting on for a while now — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Jacqueline T. Hill. www.thelivingacts.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqueline-t-hillbiz/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 45m 11s | ||||||
| 7/25/26 | How Do We Decide, When Life Asks Different Questions | Balance. Alignment. They're two words we hear all the time. We chase them, talk about them, and often measure ourselves against them. But what if we've never stopped to ask what they actually mean? In this episode, Leslie explores why our definition of a balanced and aligned life isn't meant to stay the same forever. As we grow and move through different seasons, the questions life asks of us begin to change—and perhaps our definitions should, too. This isn't an episode about finding the perfect balance. It's an invitation to pause, reflect, and consider whether the life you're building still fits the woman you're becoming. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I built the space — a place where women can show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation. We have already held our first gathering and it was exactly what I hoped it would be. If you want to join us for the next one, send me an email with the words "I'm in for Monthly Gathering" and I will make sure you are on the list. Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 11m 52s | ||||||
| 7/19/26 | legal strategywomen entrepreneurs+3 | Carolyn Jahnke | Athena Legal Solutions | — | legal strategywomen-owned business+3 | — | 37m 41s | ||
| 7/17/26 | women empowermentanonymous sharing+4 | — | — | — | capable womenanonymous filter+4 | — | 23m 26s | ||
| 7/12/26 | law firm managementwomen in leadership+3 | Tina Hughes | law firmCEO+1 | — | law firmCEO+5 | — | 38m 54s | ||
| 7/11/26 | energyalignment+3 | — | — | — | self improvementpersonal growth+3 | — | 46m 48s | ||
| 7/5/26 | AIlaw+4 | Angela Conway | Lady Justice InitiativeAmerican Bar Association | Middle EastNorth Africa | AIlaw+5 | — | 34m 24s | ||
| 7/3/26 | successprofessional development+4 | — | — | — | successenergy+5 | — | 28m 19s | ||
| 6/28/26 | self-discoverygrief+3 | Sacha Hughes | Sacha Hughes | — | self-discoverygrief+5 | — | 43m 10s | ||
| 6/26/26 | self-reflectionsuccess+4 | — | — | — | extraordinary lifesuccess+4 | — | 47m 48s | ||
| 6/21/26 | business strategyentrepreneurship+3 | Kirsten Graham | Kirsten Graham | — | business foundationentrepreneurship+3 | — | 41m 37s | ||
| 6/19/26 | decision makingpersonal growth+4 | — | — | Playa del Carmen | decision makingcoaching business+5 | — | 30m 59s | ||
| 6/14/26 | Kim Costa: When Saying No to Oprah Led to Everything — Lessons in Bold, Aligned Living | Join Leslie Gaudet and Kim Costa, Top 5% Realtor® and creator of The Wheel House Method, for a fascinating and eye-opening conversation about the powerful relationship between the spaces we live in and the extraordinary lives we’re building. Kim's journey to this work is anything but ordinary. She built Clarity Farm from scratch — a beautiful property that ultimately left her feeling isolated and disconnected. And then she won an essay contest for The Oprah Winfrey Show and made the bold decision to decline filming because her home simply didn’t reflect her true self. Those two defining moments became the foundation for everything she now does. In this episode, Kim opens up about how she developed The Wheel House Method — a framework that evaluates homes across eight life dimensions including career, finance, health, relationships, and spirituality — and why she believes our homes are either actively supporting our extraordinary lives or quietly working against them. You’ll hear what it truly looks like to make a bold, aligned home decision from a place of deep self-knowledge, how financial intelligence and personal alignment must work together, and what her book reveals about the gap between how homes look and how they actually make us feel. If you have ever walked through your front door and felt like something was just not quite right — this conversation will help you finally understand why, and what to do about it. ******************************************************************** Connect with me: https://linktr.ee/herextraordinarylifebydesign [email protected] ******************************************************************** Monthly Gathering: I've been sitting on an idea for how to create a space where women can finally show up without the filter, without the performance, and without wondering whether being seen is going to cost them something. A monthly gathering. No faces. No names. No titles. Just voices and honest conversation about what it actually feels like to be a woman navigating this profession. If I built it — would you come? Send me an email with the words “I’m in for Monthly Gathering” and that will be enough for me to know that you’re interested. The YES Reset Community: If you are a woman in law and you would like to share your perspective as I build The YES Reset Community, I would love to hear from you because what I create will be shaped by what you're actually experiencing. You can send me an email to share what resonated or ask any questions. I read every message. And if you're willing to go a little deeper, you can complete a brief feedback form that will help me build this with your actual experience in mind. You'll find the link here: https://forms.gle/qAjxLDnUCyrEBboD9 ******************************************************************** Here’s how you can connect with Kim Costa. https://lifestylefoundations.com/ https://www.facebook.com/kimecostarealtor https://www.instagram.com/kim.e.costa https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimecosta Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 44m 20s | ||||||
| 6/12/26 | self-awarenesspersonal growth+3 | — | — | — | high-achieving womenlife change+3 | — | 36m 25s | ||
| 6/7/26 | career designwomen empowerment+4 | Stacy Heisey-Terrell | Career 2.0HR | — | career ownershipburnout+4 | — | 48m 06s | ||
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