Holy and Human

In this episode, we explore the meeting place between artificial intelligence and the soul. In a world overflowing with data, it’s easy to mistake information for truth. Together, we ask: how can we use AI without losing the deeper knowing that lives within us?

You may have seen a vintage photo recently resurfacing on social media of Mr. Roger’s cooling his feet with the show’s beloved Officer Clemmons. In the 1960s, segregation was still widely enforced in swimming pools, and this small act on a children’s show was a conscious stance against social inequality. Fred wanted to enlighten the next generation, and the photo’s recent appearance is a testament that this is still a much-needed lesson. Yet, even more profound than Mr. Roger’s statement on public television, is Clemmons's life story.  Francois was a close friend of Mr. Rogers and played Officer Clemmons for 25 years. François not only endured life-long racism but also bigotry for being homosexual —including Fred’s own fears that the show would lose their sponsorships if they featured an openly gay character. A talented singer, Francois went on to create the world-renowned Harlem Spiritual Ensemble—dedicated to preserving, sustaining, and commissioning new and traditional arrangements of American negro spirituals. He also received a Grammy for his performance in Porgy and Bess. His recent memoir tells the story of deep self-inquiry and spiritual discovery. Join us for this intimate and powerful conversation, on the Black Lives Matter movement, confronting bigotry and racism, the incredible power of music, and just what it means to be a Soul in an unjust world.