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Thriving Is Climate, Flourishing Is Weather with Pam King
Jun 25, 2026
1h 30m 17s
If a Silicon God Arrives, It Will Be the God We Deserve with Robert Wright
Jun 22, 2026
1h 37m 51s
Decisional vs. Emotional Forgiveness: The Distinction Most of Us Have Been Missing with Everett Worthington
Jun 14, 2026
1h 20m 19s
There Was a Time When God Was Gods with Ilia Delio
Jun 9, 2026
1h 26m 30s
Religion Has a Physiology: Ilia & Tripp on Why Rituals Come Before Beliefs
Jun 2, 2026
1h 20m 58s
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| 6/25/26 | ![]() Thriving Is Climate, Flourishing Is Weather with Pam King | Pam King is back, and this conversation moved at the pace it wanted to. She runs the Thrive Center at Fuller Theological Seminary, and the framework she has built there is the most useful integration of psychological science and Christian theology I have come across — six facets that spell THRIVE, with a telos she calls the reciprocating self. We started with Stanford and seminary and ended with how the church is asking nine-year-olds to defend their interpretation of Torah when what they actually need is a fifth adult who knows their name. In between: the difference between flourishing and thriving, the Altadena fires Pam watched from her office window, how Winnicott's good enough mother maps onto how children come to relate to God, what Mark Labberton's seminary depression taught him about liturgy, why I rebuilt our confirmation class around questions instead of doctrines, and the prayer I have been praying with my daughter Khora since she was an infant. You can check out her previous visit on the podcast here. Books we touched on: The Reciprocating Self: Human Development in Theological Perspective, with Jack O. Balswick and Kevin S. Reimer. Her foundational telos book. Thriving with Stone Age Minds: Evolutionary Psychology, Christian Faith, and the Quest for Human Flourishing, with Justin L. Barrett. The Handbook of Spiritual Development in Childhood and Adolescence. Join our online class – THE FUTURE OF RELIGION Tripp and Ilia Delio are teaming up for a brand-new four-week online class, The Future of Religion — for everyone who’s read the books, asked the questions, and realized the faith they inherited doesn’t quite fit anymore. Together they’ll trace religion’s evolutionary arc and map what’s emerging on the other side. Includes 4 video lectures, 4 live Q&As (replays available), and a community of fellow travelers. Donation-based, pay what you’re able (including $0). Live sessions start this month — register at www.thefutureofreligion.com This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 30m 17s | ||||||
| 6/22/26 | ![]() If a Silicon God Arrives, It Will Be the God We Deserve with Robert Wright | Bob Wright is back, and The God Test is the AI book I had been waiting for someone to write — the only one I have read that takes the spiritual stakes of the technology with the seriousness Teilhard would have. It opens with the interview Bob conducted with a young Geoffrey Hinton in 1983 — now anointed by The New York Times as the godfather of AI, now also one of its loudest doomers — and pivots into what Bob did not understand in that hotel room forty years ago: that we would build something as powerful as the human brain without ever first having to understand the brain. The bottom-up approach won. We are now inside the consequences. We spent the hour on Teilhard's noosphere acquiring silicon neurons, on why Bob argues accelerationism is lethal, on the difference between cognitive sovereignty and cognitive empathy and why both are now in jeopardy, on whether the algorithm has already occupied the very inner room from which sovereignty would be exercised, and on the closing line of the book — which I will not spoil here, except to say it is the kind of line you stop reading after. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Robert Wright is the New York Times bestselling author of Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny, The Moral Animal, The Evolution of God (Pulitzer Prize finalist), and Why Buddhism Is True. His newest book, The God Test, is out from Simon & Schuster in June 2026. He is Visiting Professor of Science and Religion at Union Theological Seminary in New York and president of the Nonzero Foundation. His Nonzero Newsletter and Nonzero Podcast (currently in rotation with Paul Bloom) live at nonzero.substack.com — and yes, I am a paid member. Books surfaced in this conversation: The God Test (the book at hand), The Evolution of God (the silicon-god closing line of The God Test picks up the long arc of Evolution directly), Why Buddhism Is True (the contemplative-traditions stretch of the conversation), and Nonzero (the non-zero-sum framing that runs under everything Bob does). Previous Episodes with Robert Wright Evolution, Empathy, & the Future of Humanity From Mindful Resistance to the New Agnosticism The Evolution of God Join our online class – THE FUTURE OF RELIGION Tripp and Ilia Delio are teaming up for a brand-new four-week online class, The Future of Religion — for everyone who’s read the books, asked the questions, and realized the faith they inherited doesn’t quite fit anymore. Together they’ll trace religion’s evolutionary arc and map what’s emerging on the other side. Includes 4 video lectures, 4 live Q&As (replays available), and a community of fellow travelers. Donation-based, pay what you’re able (including $0). Live sessions start this month — register at www.thefutureofreligion.com This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 37m 51s | ||||||
| 6/14/26 | ![]() Decisional vs. Emotional Forgiveness: The Distinction Most of Us Have Been Missing with Everett Worthington | Dr. Everett Worthington spent thirty years building the most rigorously tested forgiveness program in psychological science — and the day he turned in his first book on the subject was the day his mother was murdered in a home invasion. Three years later, his brother, who had discovered her body, took his own life, after Everett — a psychotherapist, a big brother — had failed to talk him into counseling. So this is not abstract research. The man giving us the REACH model, the distinction between decisional and emotional forgiveness, the six-step protocol for responsible self-forgiveness, and a vision of forgiveness scaling from heart to home to homeland is the man who has had to apply every move he teaches to the people he loved most. We spent the hour on the science, the tools, and at the end, on why the algorithmic version of America is currently training us to become exactly the kind of community in which forgiveness will not happen. Dr. Everett L. Worthington Jr. is Commonwealth Professor Emeritus in the Department of Psychology at Virginia Commonwealth University, where he taught for more than forty years before formally retiring in 2017 and remaining affiliated with the department. A licensed clinical psychologist and past president of the American Psychological Association's Society for the Psychology of Religion and Spirituality, he has published more than thirty-eight books and four hundred scholarly articles across forgiveness, humility, positive psychology, and marriage and family. His REACH forgiveness program has been validated by more than thirty randomized control trials worldwide. Explore the Science of Forgiveness — Greater Good Science Center The GGSC forgiveness hub brings together research, practices, and essays for anyone thinking seriously about forgiveness — theologically, pastorally, or personally. Join our online class – THE FUTURE OF RELIGION Tripp and Ilia Delio are teaming up for a brand-new four-week online class, The Future of Religion — for everyone who’s read the books, asked the questions, and realized the faith they inherited doesn’t quite fit anymore. Together they’ll trace religion’s evolutionary arc and map what’s emerging on the other side. Includes 4 video lectures, 4 live Q&As (replays available), and a community of fellow travelers. Donation-based, pay what you’re able (including $0). Live sessions start this month — register at www.thefutureofreligion.com This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 20m 19s | ||||||
| 6/9/26 | ![]() There Was a Time When God Was Gods with Ilia Delio✨ | monotheismAxial Age+4 | Ilia Delio | Franciscan Sister of Washington, DCPsalm 82 | Germany | monotheismAxial Age+5 | — | 1h 26m 30s | |
| 6/2/26 | ![]() Religion Has a Physiology: Ilia & Tripp on Why Rituals Come Before Beliefs✨ | ritualsbeliefs+4 | Ilia Delio | The Future of ReligionYouTube+1 | — | religionrituals+7 | — | 1h 20m 58s | |
| 5/30/26 | ![]() The Machine Is a God Image with Ilia Delio✨ | AI and religionneuroscience+3 | Ilia Delio | Pope Leo XIVHomebrewed Christianity | — | AIreligion+5 | — | 1h 29m 42s | |
| 5/28/26 | ![]() The Problem Is Not Poverty. It Is Wealth. w/ Elizabeth Hinson-Hasty✨ | wealthpoverty+5 | Elizabeth Hinson-Hasty | Union Presbyterian SeminaryPC(USA)+2 | — | Christianitytheology+5 | — | 1h 21m 21s | |
| 5/25/26 | ![]() Preaching in the WTF Zone: Leah Schade on Saying Something True When the News Will Not Stop✨ | preachingclergy challenges+4 | Leah Schade | Lexington Theological SeminaryPreaching and Social Issues: Tools and Tactics for Empowering Your Prophetic Voice+1 | — | preachingclergy+5 | — | 1h 09m 41s | |
| 5/23/26 | ![]() The Darkly Radiant Struggle with Gary Dorrien✨ | TheologyBlack theology+4 | Gary Dorrien | HomebrewedClasses.com | — | Theology for TroublemakersResurrection Hope+4 | — | 1h 26m 35s | |
| 5/18/26 | ![]() Religion Before Belief: What's actually dying and what was always the deeper thing✨ | faithreligion+4 | Ilia Delio | SubstackProcess This | — | faithbelief+5 | — | 23m 51s | |
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| 5/16/26 | ![]() James Cone Was Right: Gary Dorrien & Charlene Sinclair on Black Theology, the Lynching Tree & the Cry We Keep Not Hearing✨ | Black TheologyTheology for Troublemakers+5 | Gary DorrienCharlene Sinclair | Negro churchNCBC+1 | Detroit | James ConeBlack Theology+8 | — | 1h 26m 08s | |
| 5/15/26 | ![]() The Meme, the Madonna & the Fertility God: Andrew Root on Idolatry, the Church & Late Capitalism✨ | idolatrychurch+4 | Andrew Root | Counting CrowsBaal and the Gods of More+1 | Berlin | idolatryfertility god+6 | — | 1h 38m 50s | |
| 5/12/26 | ![]() Binge-Watching as Spiritual Formation (And Not in a Good Way)✨ | binge-watchingspiritual formation+5 | — | The Disappearance of Rituals | — | binge-watchingspiritual formation+7 | — | 14m 51s | |
| 5/11/26 | ![]() God Meets Us in Our Suffering: Rolf Jacobson on Cancer, the Theology of the Cross & Three Friends Who Went Through It Together | Rolf Jacobson is back — psalm scholar, dean at Luther Seminary, co-author of the Homebrewed Christianity Guide to the Old Testament, and one of my favorite people to argue theology with over a long dinner. His new book God Meets Us in Our Suffering is unlike anything else he's written, and unlike almost anything else I've read on the subject. It's the story of three close friends — Rolf, his brother Carl, and their friend Mike Pancoast — who all had cancer, went through it together, and wrote about it side by side by side. Rolf had bone cancer at fifteen, lost both legs, and has been in a wheelchair for forty-five years. Carl was diagnosed with leukemia in 2022, declared cancer free in 2024, then died months later when meningitis attacked his brain after the bone marrow transplant compromised his immune system. Mike had lymphoma. What the three of them discovered in writing the book — and what Rolf and I spent this conversation unpacking — is that they didn't know they were writing a book about the theology of the cross. They thought they were just telling their stories. They weren't. This is one of the most honest, funny, theologically rich conversations I've had on this podcast, and it's also one of the most personal. Rolf doesn't let suffering become an abstraction. It never was one for him. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Join our upcoming online class – THE FUTURE OF RELIGION Tripp and Ilia Delio are teaming up for a brand-new four-week online class, The Future of Religion — for everyone who’s read the books, asked the questions, and realized the faith they inherited doesn’t quite fit anymore. Together they’ll trace religion’s evolutionary arc and map what’s emerging on the other side. Includes 4 video lectures, 4 live Q&As (replays available), and a community of fellow travelers. Donation-based, pay what you’re able (including $0). Live sessions start this month — register at www.thefutureofreligion.com Theology Beer Camp 2026 — The God-Podcalypse — hits Kansas City October 8–10, exactly one month before the election. Thirty scholars (Ilia Delio, Cornel West, Diana Butler Bass, Gary Dorrien, and a stack more), thirty God-pods, four post-apocalyptic stages, and the community everyone keeps telling us is the real reason they come back. Come find your people at Theology Beer Camp This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 30m 23s | ||||||
| 5/9/26 | ![]() Sacred Values and Street Power — The Theology of Organizing | Gary Dorrien came to organizing the hard way — canvassing for McGovern in Alma, Michigan in 1972, where people didn't just oppose the candidate, they despised him, and where two doorstep encounters came close enough to violence that he learned the hard way to pair up. He didn't come out of that thinking he'd found his calling. What he found instead was Michael Harrington at a Harvard Divinity School lecture two years later — corduroy jacket, blue work shirt, gently correcting his own introduction — and joined DSOC on the spot. This week's session gave us Gary's full origin story as an organizer: from the McGovern campaign to the Albany years where he co-founded a DSOC chapter, led Central American solidarity work through C-SPACE, and discovered firsthand the cultural chasm between two wings of the left that could barely stand to share a building. Then Aaron took over and introduced three extraordinary guests — Joe Strife,Colleen Wessel-McCoy, and Carolyn Baker — who brought the history of the National Welfare Rights Organization, Beulah Sanders, and the General Baker Institute directly into the room, and turned the question of who should lead into a live theological reckoning. Carolyn did the interview sitting on her mother's childhood porch steps in Dallas, recording oral history from a woman who is still organizing through dementia, which tells you everything you need to know about where this tradition lives and who carries it. If you haven't joined yet, come find us at www.HomebrewedClasses.com — donation-based, including zero. You get Gary's full lecture series, Aaron's supplemental interviews with scholars and organizers, curated readings, discussion guides, and the online community. Next week: James Cone with Charlene Sinclair. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Previous Episodes with Gary or Aaron the Niebuhr You Thought You Knew What Would a New Abolition Be? Gary Dorrien on the Black Social Gospel, Ida B. Wells & Reverdy Ransom Social Ethics for This Moment What God Do They Worship In There? The Black Social Gospel and the Crisis of American Christianity Theological Ethics & Liberal Protestantism James Cone and the Emergence of Black Theology The Future of Faith & Justice Theology for Action The Sacred, The Political, and Why We’re All Vulnerable Come keep thinking with us — Theology Beer Camp 2026 This is exactly what we will be sitting with at Theology Beer Camp this October 8–10 in Kansas City. Our theme this year is the God-podcalypse. Cornell West is coming. So are a lot of your favorite theologians and podcasters and six hundred of your soon-to-be-favorite people. We are going to think together about what it means to be a people of faith in catastrophic times — without deodorizing the catastrophe, and without giving despair the last word. Don't wait. → TheologyBeer.Camp JOIN THE CLASS - Theology for Troublemakers: Christian Social Ethics from the Margins This 6-week online course, led by Dr. Gary Dorrien and Dr. Aaron Stauffer, recovers the radical tradition of Christian social ethics — from Reverdy Ransom and Reinhold Niebuhr to James Cone and the Welfare Rights Movement — and asks what faithfulness demands of us right now. Weekly lectures, live Q&A conversations, guest lecturers, and an online community included. 💰 Donation-based — including $0 🔗 Sign up at HomebrewedClasses.com This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 75,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 50 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 1h 27m 09s | ||||||
| 5/4/26 | ![]() Glimmerings: Miroslav Volf & Christian Wiman on Friendship, Faith & Letters That Pressed Them Both✨ | friendshipfaith+5 | Miroslav VolfChristian Wiman | Glimmerings | — | faithgrace+5 | — | 1h 11m 32s | |
| 5/2/26 | ![]() A Story of Being Saved by Love and Grace: Gary Dorrien’s Memoir in His Own Words✨ | Christian social ethicstheological formation+4 | Gary Dorrien | Union SeminaryAnglican+10 | — | Christian ethicstheology+6 | — | 1h 27m 03s | |
| 4/28/26 | ![]() America is Obsessed with Problems but Denies Catastrophe✨ | apocalyptic theologyresurrection+5 | — | The Last of UsLong, Long Time | — | Cornell Westapocalypse+7 | — | 24m 53s | |
| 4/26/26 | ![]() Gary Dorrien on the Niebuhr You Thought You Knew✨ | Reinhold NiebuhrChristian realism+4 | Gary Dorrien | UnionBethel Church+4 | — | NiebuhrDorrien+5 | — | 1h 30m 06s | |
| 4/22/26 | ![]() The Power Made Perfect in Weakness: Nonviolence as Metaphysical Revelation✨ | nonviolencemetaphysical revelation+4 | — | Anabaptist Mennonite Centre at Trinity Western UniversityProcess This | — | nonviolenceChristianity+6 | Humanitas | 39m 52s | |
| 4/20/26 | ![]() What Would a New Abolition Be? Gary Dorrien on the Black Social Gospel, Ida B. Wells & Reverdy Ransom✨ | Black Social GospelChristian social ethics+5 | Gary Dorrien | Union SeminaryTheology for Troublemakers | — | Black Social GospelIda B. Wells+5 | — | 1h 14m 59s | |
| 4/17/26 | ![]() Just War for People Who Actually Know What It Means w/ Kevin Carnahan✨ | just war theoryChristian ethics+5 | Kevin Carnahan | Journal of the Society of Christian EthicsCentral Methodist University | — | just war theoryChristian ethics+5 | — | 2h 10m 35s | |
| 4/16/26 | ![]() I Thought I Was a Doctor: Trump, the Pope & the Most Chaotic Week in Religion News with Diana Butler Bass✨ | religion newschurch history+5 | Diana Butler Bass | PentagonAmerican Christianity | — | TrumpPope+7 | — | 1h 28m 51s | |
| 4/15/26 | ![]() Two Eyes, One Reality: Toward Fuller Knowing✨ | philosophyhuman experience+5 | — | — | — | philosophyhuman experience+5 | — | 21m 44s | |
| 4/13/26 | ![]() Theology for Troublemakers: Gary Dorrien & Aaron Stauffer on Social Ethics for This Moment✨ | Christian social ethicsAmerican populism+3 | Gary DorrienAaron Stauffer | Democratic PartyNAFTA+1 | Michigan | Christian ethicssocial justice+3 | — | 1h 22m 00s | |
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