HOW Conversations
by The HOW Institute for Society featuring hosts Dov Seidman and Dana H. Born
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David Kohler, Chair and CEO, Kohler Co.
May 23, 2026
24m 47s
Elise Awwad, President and CEO, DeVry University
Apr 24, 2026
29m 41s
David Gelles, Best-Selling Author / Climate Reporter, The New York Times
Mar 23, 2026
34m 56s
Jon Huntsman, former Ambassador and current Mastercard Vice Chair
Mar 3, 2026
22m 09s
Devika Bulchandani, COO of WPP, former CEO of Ogilvy
Dec 19, 2025
33m 52s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 5/23/26 | David Kohler, Chair and CEO, Kohler Co. | What does moral leadership look like across generations of change? In our latest HOW Conversation, HOW Fellow Dana Born sits down with David Kohler, Chair and CEO of Kohler Co., to explore what it takes to lead with integrity, humility, and purpose through moments of disruption, uncertainty, and transformation. From his early days working on the factory floor and in the foundry to leading one of the world’s most recognized global brands, David reflects on the experiences, mentor... | 24m 47s | ||||||
| 4/24/26 | Elise Awwad, President and CEO, DeVry University | In this HOW Conversation, Elise Awwad, President and CEO of DeVry University, shares a deeply personal and practical perspective on moral leadership in a rapidly changing world. From her early lessons shaped by her father, to leading a nearly century-old institution through technological disruption, Awwad explores how values must anchor leadership today. Awwad offers a clear framework for ethical AI—grounded in purpose, governance, and human oversight—and makes a compelling case for re... | 29m 41s | ||||||
| 3/23/26 | David Gelles, Best-Selling Author / Climate Reporter, The New York Times | What does it take to lead with principle in a system defined by pressure, trade-offs, and competing interests? In this HOW Conversation, HOW founder Dov Seidman sits down with David Gelles, best-selling author and climate reporter for The New York Times, to explore the central paradox of modern capitalism: how businesses can be both profitable and purposeful—without ever fully resolving the tension between the two. Drawing from Gelles’ latest book The Dirtbag Billionaire, the co... | 34m 56s | ||||||
| 3/3/26 | Jon Huntsman, former Ambassador and current Mastercard Vice Chair | What does moral leadership look like in practice—across politics, diplomacy, business, and times of crisis? In this episode of HOW Conversations, Dana Born sits down with Ambassador Jon Huntsman to explore the deeper “how” of leadership: trust, humility, service, and clarity in chaos. Drawing from his experience as Governor of Utah, U.S. Ambassador to Singapore, China, and Russia, and now Vice Chair and President of Strategic Growth at Mastercard, Huntsman reflects on: Wh... | 22m 09s | ||||||
| 12/19/25 | Devika Bulchandani, COO of WPP, former CEO of Ogilvy | In this HOW Conversation, Dov Seidman sits down with Devika Bulchandani—COO of WPP, former CEO of Ogilvy, award-winning industry leader, and HOW Institute board member—for a candid and deeply human exploration of leadership in a world defined by speed, AI, and profound tension. Devika reflects on the values forged early in her life, her belief that humanity will always win, and the subtle but powerful shift from leading people to having people choose to follow you. She opens up about:&... | 33m 52s | ||||||
| 9/18/25 | Dr. Beth Hillman, President & CEO, 9/11 Memorial & Museum | How do leaders navigate moments of profound loss, transformation, and hope? In this HOW Conversation, Dana Born sits down with Dr. Beth Hillman – Air Force veteran, legal scholar, former president of Mills College, and now President & CEO of the 9/11 Memorial & Museum. Together, they explore lessons in moral courage, civic responsibility, and the power of education to shape not only informed citizens, but moral ones. Dr. Hillman shares her journey across the military, academia,... | 26m 43s | ||||||
| 9/17/25 | Linda Rabbitt, Founder of Rand Construction | [Archive Interview from Aug 20, 2025] What does it take to build one of the largest women-founded and women-owned construction companies in the United States—and lead with purpose through challenges, pivots, and loss? In this HOW Conversation, Dana Born sits down with Linda Rabbitt, Founder of Rand Construction, to explore her journey of resilience, mentorship, and moral leadership. From lessons learned from her father to navigating setbacks, grief, and reinvention, Linda shares how she has ... | 21m 17s | ||||||
| 9/16/25 | Chip Brewer, President and CEO, Topgolf Callaway Brands | [Archive interview from Jul 17, 2025] What does it mean to lead with moral clarity when the stakes are high and the pressure is on? In this episode of HOW Conversations, Dana Born sits down with Chip Brewer, President & CEO of Topgolf Callaway Brands, for a compelling discussion on leadership grounded in values, integrity, and bold decision-making. From pausing before acting in moments of controversy, to building cultures that prioritize innovation and character, Chip shares powerful st... | 30m 45s | ||||||
| 9/15/25 | Shannon Watts, Founder, Moms Demand Action | [Archive Interview from Jun 17, 2025] In this powerful HOW Conversation, HOW founder Dov Seidman sits down with Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up, to explore how an ordinary moment turned into a national movement. Shannon shares how moral courage, storytelling, and a refusal to quit helped build the nation’s largest grassroots group fighting gun violence. They discuss: How Shannon turned outrage into organized action after Sandy Hook Lessons... | 33m 27s | ||||||
| 9/12/25 | Chief Master Sgt, JoAnne S. Bass, USAF | [Archive Interview from May 28, 2025] What does it mean to lead with integrity when the whole world is watching? In this inspiring HOW Conversation, Chief Master Sergeant Jo Bass—the first woman and Asian American to hold the top enlisted role in the U.S. Air Force—opens up about her journey, the evolution of purpose, and what it really takes to lead with moral courage. From humble beginnings and a Honda Civic to guiding over 600,000 service members, Chief Bass shares hard-earne... | 26m 39s | ||||||
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| 9/11/25 | Dr. Nitin Nohria, 10th Dean, Harvard Business School | [Archive Interview from May 13, 2025] In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, Dr. Nitin Nohria, 10th Dean of Harvard Business School, opens up to Dov Seidman about the profound life experiences and inner shifts that shaped his views on leadership, trust, and power. From his early journey as an immigrant to his influential role guiding one of the world’s top business schools, Dr. Nohria reflects on: ✔️ Learning humility through failure ✔️ The impact of mentorship and teachi... | 26m 05s | ||||||
| 9/10/25 | Zia Khan, former Chief Innovation Officer, Rockefeller Foundation | [Archive Interview from Apr 24, 2025] How do we build organizations for the future? What does it take to build organizations—and a society—that are truly fit for the future? In this powerful conversation, Zia Khan, Chief Innovation Officer at the Rockefeller Foundation, shares how innovation grounded in moral leadership can transform not only the social sector, but how we all work together to create real, enduring impact. Speaking with HOW Founder Dov Seidman, Zia reflects on hi... | 29m 26s | ||||||
| 9/9/25 | Deborah Borda, former President, New York Philharmonic | [Archive Interview from Apr 8, 2025] In this inspiring conversation, legendary arts leader Deborah Borda—former President of the New York Philharmonic and LA Phil—shares hard-won insights on what it means to lead with purpose, innovation, and integrity in the world of classical music. From redefining what an orchestra can be, to championing diversity and education, Deborah reveals how she navigated some of the most prestigious cultural institutions with bold vision, moral leadership and deep ... | 25m 05s | ||||||
| 9/8/25 | Dr. Wayne Frederick, former President, Howard University | [Archive Interview from Jun 24, 2024] Dr. Wayne Frederick is known as a decorated surgeon and former university president, but now showcases his talent for storytelling. Blending beautiful memories of growing up in Trinidad with navigating the complex world of leadership, Dr. Frederick has a flair for using past experiences to get better each day. Dr. Frederick suggests, “Every day when you get home, you should ask yourself two questions. What did I do today and how well did I do it? How much... | 26m 15s | ||||||
| 9/5/25 | Hubert Joly, former CEO, Best Buy | [Archive interview from May 30, 2024] Hubert Joly has worn many hats throughout his life: CEO, author, educator. But no single hat defines his soul. He explains, “I was not the CEO of Best Buy. I had that job, but that was not who I was. Clarity around our purpose in life, I think that's truly foundational.” Former CEO of electronic retailer Best Buy and current senior lecturer at Harvard Business School, Hubert Joly has decades of experience leading people and has declared that we ne... | 24m 51s | ||||||
| 9/4/25 | Dr. Ann Kirschner, former Interim President, Hunter College | [Archive Interview from Apr 25, 2024] “I have a lack of fear of change,” says Dr. Ann Kirschner, a fearless leader known for her pursuit of new challenges and new opportunities. Dr. Kirschner, who is currently the interim president of Hunter College, follows the thread of reinvention, and it’s evident from her diverse background. She’s involved in classrooms and boardrooms, a pioneer in digital technology, and authored Sala’s Gift: My Mother’s Holocaust Story – based off letters her mother re... | 25m 29s | ||||||
| 9/3/25 | Tom Monahan, CEO, Heidrick & Struggles | [Archive Interview from Mar 27, 2024] Tom Monahan has always been curious. In childhood exploring his grandparents’ carnival (still in the family today), he’d pepper each guest with questions about the rides and games. “If you ask people, they’ll tell you stuff.” Mr. Monahan, who was recently tapped as CEO of the executive search firm Heidrick & Struggles, keeps his inquisitive nature front and center, always ready to be inspired by a friendly conversation. This week on HOW ... | 22m 28s | ||||||
| 9/2/25 | Anthony Foxx, Professor, Harvard Kennedy School of Government | [Archive Interview from Jan 18, 2024] Anthony Foxx knows the power of someone believing in you. “Like many kids I needed to hear, and heard often, that there was something special about me. And I started to believe that.” Mr. Foxx is currently a Professor of the Practice of Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School. Before that, he served as the 54th Mayor of the city of Charlotte and was the city’s youngest mayor in history. He then moved on to serve as the 17th U.S. Secretary of Trans... | 22m 50s | ||||||
| 9/1/25 | Dr. Eboo Patel, Founder and President of Interfaith America | [Archive Interview from Oct 25, 2023] Leadership Means Doing the Hard Work of Building Up Institutions Eboo Patel knows leadership is hard work, “Anybody who runs a YMCA, anybody who is a principal of a school, anybody who runs an athletic team, you know that what you have to do is show up everyday and move a half inch forward. That is what building a society looks like.” Dr. Patel is the Founder and President of Interfaith America, a unique organization that leverages religious diversi... | 21m 24s | ||||||
| 8/29/25 | Lisa Sherman, President and CEO of The Ad Council | [Archive Interview from Sep 21, 2023] Lisa Sherman, President and CEO of the Ad Council, joins The HOW Institute Founder and Chairman Dov Seidman on an all-new episode of HOW Conversations. Together they discuss the new challenges that face leaders in a morally activated world and the frameworks leaders need to help them decide when they should lean-in on social issues. “Finding that intersection as a leader these days between your company’s purpose and an individual’s purpose...that’s where ... | 23m 41s | ||||||
| 8/28/25 | Lt. General Brian W. Cavanaugh, U.S. Marines | {Archive Interview from Aug 17, 2023] On this episode of HOW Conversations we welcome Lieutenant General Brian W. Cavanaugh, a Marine Commander. He joined Distinguished HOW Fellow, Dana Born to talk about how Lt. Gen. Cavanaugh draws inspiration from the junior Marines under his command and the importance of leading with empathy, “If you can really walk in other people’s shoes and understand where they are going you can help them get there. And every time you help someone in your unit, ... | 20m 42s | ||||||
| 8/27/25 | Darren Walker, President of the Ford Foundation [New Episode] | [Archive Interview from Jul 20, 2023] Darren Walker, President of the Ford Foundation, joined Dov Seidman, Founder of The HOW Institute, on a new episode of HOW Conversations to discuss Mr. Walker’s new book, From Generosity to Justice: A New Gospel of Wealth. “I was born into an America that believed in my promise.” Mr. Walker tells Dov, “I had hope, hope is the oxygen of democracy. And philanthropy is, in some ways, the business of hope.” Watch the full episode to learn why Mr. Walker, wh... | 27m 28s | ||||||
| 8/26/25 | Deval Patrick, former Governor of Massachusetts | [Archive Interview from Jun 15, 2023] “I don’t think there is such a thing as leadership without ethical or moral leadership,” Deval Patrick tells Dana Born on this episode of HOW Conversations. The Honorable Patrick served two terms as the governor of Massachusetts, the first Black person to serve in that role. He is now a professor of practice and the co-director of the Center for Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School. Watch the discussion with Governor Patrick and Disting... | 26m 41s | ||||||
| 8/25/25 | Dr. Brenda Cassellius, former Exec. Director, Fresh Energy | [Archive Interview from May 11, 2023] “We need to talk a lot more about love,” Dr. Brenda Cassellius tells HOW Fellow Dana Born on HOW Conversations. “Leaders are constantly giving out love to their teams, to their mission and their purpose. Showing love and doing that unconditionally gives people hope.” Dr. Cassellius has been an educator, administrator and leader and was recently named Executive Director for Fresh Energy. Over her 30-year career she’s learned that moral leaders inspir... | 23m 08s | ||||||
| 8/22/25 | Rear Admiral Shoshana Chatfield, former President, Naval War College | [Archive Interview from Apr 26, 2023] Rear Admiral Shoshana Chatfield knows that making a difficult decision is never easy, but when done with thought and care, it is an opportunity to learn and grow, “Being a moral leader is being a leader who is willing to engage ethically in self-reflection and also in a broader conversation about how and why we are doing things.” Rear Admiral Chatfield is the President of the Naval War College, the first woman to hold that position. She spoke with HOW Fel... | 22m 11s | ||||||
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