How Other Dads Dad with Hamish Blake

One of Hamish’s oldest and dearest friends finally sits down on the HODD couch for a well overdue chat. Wippa and Hame talk all the time, but not often about the deep stuff that drives them to be better dads. In a conversation that is equal parts serious and silly, Hame and Wip discuss the formative impact of Wip’s own dad, dealing with big questions children unexpectedly ask, how Wip tries to show his kids that nothing is impossible, and why setting out to build a birdhouse that ultimately becomes home to a rare rat is still a massive win for the family. Oh, and they laugh a lot. At times because Wip has told a funny story, but more often because he has told an entirely inappropriate story with explicit language to match. Apologies in advance. We should have known better. You can of course catch Wippa with Fitzy and Kate Ritchie on NOVA FM. And you can learn more about the good work Wip is doing with 36 Months HERE. Last episode for the season comes out next week and luckily for us Dr Billy is back with some actual expertise… so get the pens ready. — And big thanks to HERTZ who are our exclusive sponsor in season 3. And just like us, Hertz are all about making memories and having adventures. So if you need a great car to complete your next family getaway, head to hertz.com.au/hodd for a great discount. Terms and conditions do apply. See the website for details on these, as some exclusions do apply. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An awesome outdoorsy special, with inspirational outdoor specialist, Rick Petersen. Rick featured in Season 2 of Alone Australia, and quickly became a fan fave (especially for Hame), with his unwavering positivity in the face of huge adversity and very little food! Beyond trying to stay alive on Alone, using his skills as an ex-soldier and expedition leader in the NT, Rick currently runs weekend camps for people looking to reconnect with the outdoors, including a special focus on dads and sons. As you’ll find out, the deeper purpose beyond learning to build shelters and start a fire is Rick’s passion to bring people together and foster powerful intergenerational connections, and Rick is a master at this. We were lucky enough to experience this with Rick! He invited us up to QLD (or maybe we invited ourselves?) and we took the kids out bush for a few days, and it was just magic. His love and deep knowledge of nature, his calmness, his equanimity… It was amazing to witness the effect on our kids. But we also eventually remembered we were there to record an episode, and wow… are we glad we did. Rick is so full of quiet, thoughtful wisdom, often hard earned and we just know so many people are going to get a lot from this chat. Rick, with amazing courage, also reflected on his childhood and revealed that tragically it involved him being the victim of child sexual abuse, so just a heads up that does come up in this episode. (support services listed below) Rick’s openness and kindness is just so inspiring. The way he’s made his life about giving back to the community, the beautiful relationship he has with his wife and two sons… it was a real privilege to spend time with him, and we reckon you’ll feel the same way after listening to this. Sincere thanks to Rick. What a legend. And if you’re interested in joining Rick for a weekend like this, go to rickjpetersen.com - We literally can’t recommend it enough. PS - You can find heaps of awesome Rick TikTok content HERE and follow him on Insta HERE. PPS - if you wanna see just how full on the cliffs were on Tasman island where Rick spent the first few years of his life… Have a look HERE. Crazy! —— SUPPORT SERVICES Information relating to child safety and protection may bring up strong feelings for some people. Remember, you are not alone. If you need assistance or support, contact details for dedicated support services are below. You can get support for you or anyone you know that has been affected by child sexual abuse at Bravehearts.org.au or Free Call 1800 272 831 - an organisation dedicated to the prevention and treatment of Child Sexual abuse that also offers counciling and education. You can also go to www.childsafety.gov.au/get-support to see a wide range of support services. If you or a child are in immediate danger, call Triple Zero (000). Information on reporting child safety concerns can be found on the Child Safety Make a report page. And Life Line is available 24 hours a day on 13 11 14 ----------------- Big thanks to HERTZ for helping make this special outdoorsy episode happen. We used a couple of top-notch, brand new HERTZ 4WD’s to lug all our gear and kids into the bush to camp with Rick, and of course the service was amazing, the kid’s car seats were pre-fitted, the cars were sparkling clean (not by the end!) and the pick-up and drop-off experience was a breeze. HERTZ - It’s car rental made extra special. Head to hertz.com.au/hodd to access an exclusive 25% off the base day rate for your next adventure. T&Cs and exclusions apply. Not all Hertz Locations offer this special discount rate. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When you push your limits and things get a little uncomfortable, you often learn something about yourself. When you repeatedly do it for years, we reckon you must learn some universal truths about humans and how we tick. As a professional adventure racer, Nathan has spent much of his adult life pushing his physical and mental boundaries and helping those in his racing team do the same. Hame came across Nathan watching World’s Toughest Race on Amazon, which Nathan and the Kiwi team won by some margin. But it was the fact they did it with so little fuss that struck Hame and made him want to get in touch with Nathan. (It must have annoyed the TV producers so much that the winning team was seemingly doing it with no drama! Kiwi’s don’t get worked up enough to make good reality TV!) But beyond adventure racing Nathan has been an outdoor educator, team building consultant and event producer, helping people of all backgrounds safely push their limits in the outdoors. So, when he and his wife Jodie had kids they saw no reason to change things, and have been taking their kids on, in Nathan’s words, “epic adventures” from a very young age. But this chat is not just for outdoorsy adventurey types, Nathan’s wisdom can be universally applied. He explains how he tries to incorporate the same philosophies as captain of the NZ adventure racing team as he does at home - Offer respect and composure at all times, no matter what, to ensure that communication is always open. To have a strong team you need to know how people are feeling and no one opens up to an erratic yeller! Nathan also beautifully explains how his Samoan heritage helps him bring “Polynesian chill” to his parenting and problem solving, how he and his wife helped each other develop their own individual parenting styles, and how he fosters independence and freedom for his kids, while offering support at every step. Like all our great guests, Nathan is the first to admit he hasn't got it perfect, or even close. But as he says, your family is your most important team, and the commitment he shows to his is clear. We really loved spending time with Nathan, he’s an inspirational guy and we can’t thank him enough for taking the time to come over to Wellington and have a chat. (And his no questions asked cancellation clause in the event of good powder skiing was equally inspiring, and readily agreed to by us!) You can find out more about Nathan HERE. And if you like getting outdoors and still eating tasty food, check out Nathan’s REAL MEALS - awesome tasting and nutritionally great freeze dried food for adventurers. And yes, they ship to Aus. You can get in touch with us at howotherdadsdad.com - we love to hear from you, and thanks to all of you that have written in. — And as always, big thanks to our friends at HERTZ. For this adventure across the ditch we took our kids and lots of gear, and to make our trip seamless and hassle free we used HERTZ. The pick up at the airport in Wellington was a breeze, the cars were sparkling clean, smelled great, the kids seats were pre-fitted and dropping it back was equally straightforward. If you’ve got an adventure planned in Australia, go to hertz.com.au/hodd where you can grab a 25% discount off the base rate. T&Cs and exclusions apply - see website for details.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He’s been on our screens making us laugh for years, most recently in Colin From Accounts, but in this chat Patrick Brammall unpacks one of his more meaty roles to date… Being a first time dad! Patty’s path to parenthood is a little unique with him and his wife Harriet Dyer adopting a baby girl in 2021 (Harriet is also co-creator/co-star of Colin From Accounts). Patty talks us through this experience, how it’s fundamentally changed him, his perspectives and priorities. And given his daughter was just 2 and a half when we recorded this, Patty is the first to admit that he really is still trying to figure this dadding thing out!! Patty is so honest about the ups and the downs, his hopes and fears, the sleep deprivation and the toll it’s taking on his face, and how he is still coming to terms with the fact that his time will never be his own again (well, not for the next 15 years or so). Patty, like all of us, is attempting this parenting Rubik's cube on the fly, and sometimes it's working, and sometimes it’s not!! And if that wasn’t enough, we have a brief musical interlude from a neighbour. This episode has got it all! Huge thanks to Patty (and Harriet) for sharing this really personal story, and for carving time out of a pretty jammed schedule to chat with us. In Australia Seasons 1 and 2 of Colin From Accounts is on Binge - and it’s really really great. If you have not seen it you really should watch it, like tonight. You can drop us a line anytime at howotherdadsdad.com - we love hearing from you guys. Thanks for listening! *Producer Note - Despite anything Hamish says to the contrary, all music contained within this episode is fully licensed for all necessary exploitation and distribution, including the music which the neighbour started playing through Hamish’s Bluetooth speaker inadvertently. — Big thanks to our great friends at HERTZ, our exclusive sponsor for the whole of Season 3! Just like us, they are big fans of adventure and memory making and in a great deal for HODD listeners, if you need a rental car in Australia, head to hertz.com.au/hodd for 25% off the base rate. What a great deal! Ts&Cs apply. See website for details.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He’s helped create some of Australia’s most memorable comedic characters, battled tirelessly to elevate Football (the proper round ball kind!) to the upper echelons of Australian sport, and most importantly, he’s the father to 2 (now adult) sons. But before looking at his own dadding, Santo takes us back to Melbourne in the 1960s and 70s, painting a vivid picture of the multi-generational approach to parenting that he experienced growing up in a migrant family, especially the huge role his grandfather played. Things were a touch looser back then! With his own kids now young adults, Santo is able to explain to us how his approach to parenting has changed over the years. But he’s come to think there are a couple universal elements, and he borrowed them from some advice the late, great John Clarke gave on comedy writing. John said audiences like two, seemingly incompatible things… consistency and variation. Santo reckons kids are the same. You need the consistency to keep turning up, be rock solid and always there for them, but the ability to vary your approach based on what they are presenting, what they are going through and who your kid is. Pretty bloody smart if you ask us!! Santo shares a bunch of gems like these, and of course some great stories and behind the scenes moments from The Late Show and The Castle (you’ll get some of Dennis Denuto’s origin story!) Santo is super honest, humble and doesn’t waste time trying to convince us he has all the answers - as he says, parenting is an adventure and sometimes you just gotta go with it! But he is pretty steadfast about one thing… you really should force your kid to learn an instrument! Huge thanks to Santo for making the time to chat, we absolutely loved it. Huge thanks to you for listening - You can drop us a line anytime at howotherdadsdad.com - we love hearing from you guys. — And a people mover sized thanks to our very good friends at HERTZ who are our exclusive sponsor for Season 3. Just like us, they are big fans of adventure and memory making and in a great deal for HODD listeners, if you need a rental car in Australia, head to hertz.com.au/hodd for 25% off the base rate. What a great deal! Ts&Cs and exclusions apply. See website for details.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As a prolific co-creator of Australian comedy classics like Upper Middle Bogan, Wayne is probably more comfortable bringing to life hilarious, and hilariously flawed characters, rather than reflecting on his own life. But we know Wayne to be so thoroughly kind, thoughtful and wise that we really put the screws on him to come and have a chat. Thankfully he agreed! (mostly due to a nudge from his wonderful partner in life and work, Robyn Butler) Wayne talks beautifully about becoming a stepdad, his initial fears of having another child and the transformative effect that working on some of your own issues can have on your parenting. Wayne also shares some stuff from his childhood involving domestic violence perpetrated by his father, and the huge ripple effect it has had on his life. It’s pretty heavy stuff, but Wayne manages to explain it with such amazing insightfulness and honesty, reflecting on how he continues to work through its enduring impact to this day. We are so thankful to Wayne for sharing this part of his story, as it’s not something he has ever talked about publicly. But just like Wayne himself, this chat is so much more than that, and Wayne’s wisdom as a father and partner means that every single person will take something away from this really profound chat. The chilling statistics… Unfortunately the violence that Wayne talks about is not a rare thing and the horrors of male violence and domestic abuse are incredibly far reaching, taking a huge toll on our community. In Australia, a staggering 1 in 4 women have experienced physical or sexual violence, or both, perpetrated by a partner (Source). The generational impacts on children involved are massive, and for the victims the outcomes are tragic. In 2023 almost 50% of all women killed in Australia were murdered by their current or former partner (source). If you know somebody that is suffering from domestic violence and needs help, 1800Respect.org.au is a good place to start. — 1800RESPECT is the national domestic, family, and sexual violence counselling, information and support service. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic or family violence, you can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732, text 0458 737 732 or visit the website for online chat and video call services: Available 24/7: Call, text or online chat Mon-Fri, 9am-5pm AEST (except national public holidays): Video call (no appointment needed) ---- And big thanks to HERTZ who are back as our exclusive sponsor for all of season 3. Thanks to Hertz we can bring you all these great conversations and also thanks to Hertz you can head to hertz.com.au/hodd for a great discount on you next rental. Terms and conditions do apply. See the website for details on these, as some exclusions do apply.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s back! The episode where Hamish tears up the HODD rule book, by going over an hour AND talking to an expert. And not just any expert, but leading behavioural paediatrician at the Royal Children’s Hospital, Dr Billy Garvey. Wild, right? In the sequel to his awesome Season 1 Episode, Dr Billy has been beyond generous with his time and has picked some choice moments from Season 2 to unpack with Hame and look at the clinical evidence behind the parenting gut work. And then Billy further builds on this to provide some amazing practical advice for a multitude of different scenarios that we commonly face as parents. But here’s the heartening thing, and this has come up time and time again this season… Billy reaffirms that some of the most important things we can do as parents is in fact the simple stuff. Listen to them. Love them. Be led by them. Not always as easy as it sounds in the rough and tumble of daily life, but nonetheless, something simple we can all strive for each and every day. Massive thanks to Dr Billy for his generosity. He’s a busy guy (and new father to a second child!!🥂) So to spend so much time applying his wealth of knowledge for our benefit is deeply appreciated. And you can get way more of Billy’s knowhow on his very own podcast called Pop Culture Parenting. Check it out, it’s bloody great! And also @drbillygarvey on insta. And that’s Season Two! We’ve had a blast knocking it out… It really is a gift spending time with our guests and soaking up their passion, positivity and wisdom. Huge thanks to them for their generosity, honesty and vulnerability. Thanks to all you guys for listening every week and for getting in touch with your stories and suggestions. It’s continually amazing to hear how this pod has connected with people, often in the most unexpected ways. Special thanks to our creative team - Darcy, Tom Cardy and Tey Vandenburg. And of course, mostly thanks to all the Mums!! The brains behind most operations, certainly in our respective households! For us, there is no such thing as dadding without you!! Hopefully we’ll see ya next season! Hame and Tim xx —— Huge, big, 12 seater rental van sized thanks to HERTZ, our exclusive sponsor for season 2. Thanks to them we were able to pull this season together and we really appreciate their support. You can also show your support by heading to hertz.com.au/hodd next time you need a rental car. They’ve got a great deal for HODD listeners.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Craig Foster - former Socceroo captain, legendary sports broadcaster, social justice champion… but his most important job? You guessed it… Good 'ol Dad! As a compassionate and thoughtful leader who spends much of his time helping those who don't have a voice, Craig talks about why justice and fairness are core tenets of his and how this informs his parenting. Fozz also discusses shepherding his kids though the teenage years and the almost comical lengths he’s gone to keep a watchful eye. And as a leading advocate in the multicultural and refugee space, he speaks quite beautifully about the commonality created by parenting, and that when you strip things back, what we all indisputably share as parents is a deep desire for our kids to be safe, happy and loved. We told you he was thoughtful! Craig’s CV is long, varied and representative of his desire to make a positive impact. He’s got an AM for humanitarian services, nominated as Australian of the year, a member of The Australian Multicultural society, an Adjunct Professor of Sport and Social Responsibility and an author. Oh, and 2022 he was named Father of the Year, which as he describes to Hamish, he views as an opportunity to advocate for kids and parents in the multicultural community and the huge benefit that father figures can have mentoring kids who are not their own, something that Craig does a lot of himself. Huge thanks to Fozz for coming on and talking so honestly, passionately and with such thoughtfulness. What a treat for us. And what a wonderful leader to have in our community —- Our Hertz and Merch Comp is still running! For your chance to get your hands on a Polestar EV for the weekend and some very special YETI How Other Dads Dad Tumblers head to hertz.com.au/hoddev - Terms and conditions apply and are available at the website, entries close Dec 4 2023. Big thanks to Hertz for making it all happen. —— If you wanna drop us a note, we bloody love hearing from you. You can do so at howotherdadsdad.com - thanks so much for all the correspondence we get. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Health and fitness industry expert and entrepreneur Sam Wood has a beautifully honest chat with Hame about his dadding journey. From what’s like to begin your dadding with a 9 year old step daughter, to then only eight short years later having 4 daughters, Sam shares with Hame the struggles he’s had learning on the job with a teenager, how he tries to instil adventurousness and positivity into his kids each day and how the death of his mother when he was a teenager completely reframed the relationship with his own father. Sam also recounts how the birth of their 4th daughter was not straightforward and how the resulting lengthy hospital stay affected him and the family. Sam speaks openly, honestly and without pretence, and his positivity makes him a joy to listen to. If you only think of Sam as an ex Bachelor contestant, prepare to have your perceptions changed. He’s a man committed to being a better dad, but knows only too well it takes work and it’s not easy! Big thanks to Sam for taking the time to chat. You can find his podcast, The Wood Life, helping people live a happier, healthier life here on Apple or on Spotify. - ALSO - very exciting news… Thanks to our sponsor HERTZ - we’ve got a competition! For your chance to win one of 5 weekend hire packages for a Polestar EV and some very exclusive HODD merch, head to hertz.com.au/hoddev. Terms and Conditions available at the website. Entries close 4 December 2023. Thanks again to Hertz! - And lastly - thanks again for all the mail we get. We bloody love hearing from you. You can drop us a line at howotherdadsdad.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hold on, it’s another Wild Rule Breaking Episode, this time with an EXPERT MUM! The legendary Maggie Dent, one of Australia's most trusted voices on raising kids and helping families. Last season, Hamish made some bold statements about not having experts on this pod, unless it’s ones he really likes, like Maggie Dent for example. Well, blow me down… Maggie got in touch and said she’d love to have a chat (and a weak almond cap with one). So, we feel very lucky to bring you some practical advice and words of wisdom from a mother of 4 sons, author of heaps of books, and someone who has spent years talking to parents about how a common sense approach can strengthen a family and help raise happy, healthy kids. Maggie hosts one of the very best parenting podcasts, Parental as Anything and has got a brand new one called The Good Enough Dad (Hames pops up in an episode). She’s also got a fantastic treasure trove of resources available at her website www.maggiedent.com/ - We encourage you to have a look, there is some really helpful stuff for common issues. Big thanks to Maggie for making the time to chat and distil down her many years of research and wisdom. —- Big thanks for HERTZ - our exclusive season 2 sponsor. Thanks to Hertz, we are able to bring you all these great conversations. And just like us, Hertz are all about making memories and having adventures. So if you need a great car to complete your next family getaway, head to hertz.com.au/hodd for a great discount. Terms and conditions do apply. See the website for details on these, as some exclusions do apply. —- If you want to get in touch you can drop us a line at howotherdadsdad.com - We really love hearing from you and really appreciate the funny, heartfelt and moving stories you guys share. Big thanks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We all know Scott Cam from The Block, but a few years ago, some words of wisdom from Scott Cam The Dad provided Hamish with some of the inspiration to create this pod. So, we advise you to Tools Down and listen in to a dad that takes his fathering trade really seriously… especially if it involves being a bit silly. And even more so if it means blowing off school! Scott is of course the much-loved host of The Block, but he’s still a carpenter at heart. (Hame once borrowed Scott’s chisel set and WASHED THEM!! - Scott was beyond mortified). As a dad to three adult kids, Scott has got a tonne of hard-earned wisdom to pass on, and while he describes himself as an ‘old school’ dad - to us he sounds like a big softy that just expects his kids to be good people above all else. Hame loved this chat with Scott, and in it we get to hear a side of Scott that reveals a man who really, deeply loves his family and has some strong opinions on what helps a family stay close, loving and “good people”. Even without a bathroom reveal, it’s a great listen! — Big thanks to our Season 2 Sponsor, HERTZ. Just like us, Hertz are all about memory making and adventure - so if you’ve got a trip planned, make sure you head to hertz.com.au/hodd to take advantage of 25% off the base rate. It’s a great deal just for HODD listeners! Ts&Cs apply. See the website for details on these, as some exclusions do apply. — If you want to get in touch you can drop us a line at howotherdadsdad.com - We really love hearing from you guys!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An old friend of Hame, and according to his daughters an old dad, Christian O’Connell is a bona fide legend of radio broadcasting. And really, he’s not even old! In this super funny, yet super heartfelt episode, Christian uses all 19 years of his dadding experience to distil down for us some really amazing insights and advice. He’s thought about this dadding caper a lot, so from explaining his mantra of “no small moments”, to advice on how to negotiate with teenagers, Christian has put his formidable gift for communication to wonderful use for us in this episode. So sit down (or keep washing the dishes), start a new note, and jot down a few of Christian’s pearlers. We sure did! Christian, (aided wonderfully by our good friend Jack Post) hosts the incredibly successful breakfast slot on Melbourne’s GOLD FM, which then goes out nationally in the evenings. But he’s actually pretty new to Australia, having only moved here in 2018. Before that he was one of the UK’s most successful and celebrated radio presenters, with top rating shows on Absolute Radio, Virgin Radio and XFM. Christian has also spoken very openly about his battles with anxiety and panic attacks which precipitated his move to Australia in his book No One Listens To Your Dad’s Show. He’s also got a great podcast called Stuff of Legends, and you can find his chat with Hame HERE. — Big thanks to our great friends at HERTZ, our exclusive sponsor for the whole of Season 2. Just like us, they are big fans of adventure and memory making and in a great deal for HODD listeners, if you need a rental car in Australia, head to hertz.com.au/hodd for 25% off the base rate. What a great deal! Ts&Cs apply. See website for details. You can drop us a line at howotherdadsdad.com – we love hearing from you. Thanks for all the stories, memories, tips and tricks to date. You guys are the best!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.