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ruby and roland by faith sullivan
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| 5/7/26 | ![]() ruby and roland by faith sullivan | our minnesota module kicks off with ruby and roland by faith sullivan and with a slew of minnesota facts… from both of us (!). after discussing game show hosts (including one who took his own life) and pokemon, we talk about how minnesota is a farming state, which is frustrating for the pod but ultimately re-assuring for national unity. we talk about the world war i framing in the novel, its aspirations to be the type of timeless love story that ruby reads, and the absolute lack of heat/horniness/sexiness on display. (it’s tina belcher-esque.) shreds recalls getting dunked on in class and asks if “drunk driving-inspired romances” is now a genre. joey pinpoints the early writing that put him off almost immediately. we break down the inappropriate age gaps and power dynamics found in ruby’s love life and try to answer: is the dog that ruby kills a metaphor for something? why does ruby go home? genuinely, what is she seeking? egg pulls no punches in her email. reading list for season nineteen ruby and roland by faith sullivanvestments by john reimringeramerican boy by larry watson | 56m 40s | ||||||
| 4/30/26 | ![]() season nineteen theme and reading list | it’s a return to the best podcast format ever invented: the random card draw. we are exploring our sixth state and telling sufjan stevens to once again suck shit as we have tripled up on his state output. after recapping the states we have already covered (as well as which we’re most excited for), shreds draws a card and determines our fate. we discuss our favorite things about minnesota. reading list for season nineteen ruby and roland by faith sullivanvestments by john reimringeramerican boy by larry watson | 8m 31s | ||||||
| 4/23/26 | ![]() sara levine interview (author of treasure island!!!, the hitch) | we talk to sara levine, author of treasure island!!! and the hitch, about pets, siblings, and her favorite notebooks. after joey promises her 100 compliments, shreds tells her about the 100% hit rate on recommending her novels to friends. sara talks about haters on goodreads and “hammock reviews”, what she learned from adam levin about parrots, and subverting the expectations of chick lit. we tell her about her mythology on the podcast. we ask about the cover art of her novels, how she approaches different class situations for her protagonists (or: if she does), and whether she ever lived by the mottos “steer the boat, girlfriend” or “be the alpha.” we talk about her ability to invert expectations and play with genre a bit and then share a series of questions from meg. sara mentions another author she recommends we read, discusses the ups and downs of publishing short stories in smaller publications, and her affinity for robert louis stevenson. (here’s the playlist for treasure island!!! that she created for largehearted boy.) reading list for season eighteen short dark oracles by sara levinetreasure island!!! by sara levinethe hitch by sara levine | 1h 00m 11s | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | ![]() the hitch by sara levine | our final book in the sara levine module is the hitch, which is notable as it’s a new release (and one of the fastest publication-to-episode timelines we’ve done) and, more importantly, another perfect novel. we compare it to treasure island!!! (and how this is a counter-arc to that), discuss the story of the “fun aunt” thrown into the deep end (by choice), and sara levine’s ability to craft good knock knock jokes (and why almost all art about comedy is a bit rough). is the secret to happiness going to mcdonald’s? shreds talks about the sitcom sensibilities in this novel that allow for levity in a really dark situation, how the novel’s “small book aesthetics” leave us craving more (in a good way), and how the hitch executes on his favorite trope in storytelling. we admire the cover and praise levine for dismissing drama in favor of more interesting drama. joey pitches a new challenge/idea to shreds. reading list for season eighteen short dark oracles by sara levinetreasure island!!! by sara levinethe hitch by sara levine | 34m 55s | ||||||
| 4/2/26 | ![]() treasure island!!! by sara levine | it’s time to talk about one of our favorite books, treasure island!!! by sara levine, and a plea to you, listener: go read this one. after shreds accidentally previews our next module, we ask: which most defines us? boldness, resolution, independence, or horn-blowing. we talk about how treasure island!!! serves as the best kind of palate cleanser, why we relate to messy and narcissistic 25-year-old female protagonists, and whether or not a pet library is a good business model. we share our favorite moments in the book, compare the novel’s tone to how sitcoms get away with darkness, and praise sara levine and her unique descriptions. joey mentions the almost unspoken (deep, deep) sadness of the text. shreds talks about how easy this novel would be to adapt, with so many actresses who could fit hte bill. egg writes in to compare this to the original treasure island. steer the boat, girlfriend! reading list for season eighteen short dark oracles by sara levinetreasure island!!! by sara levinethe hitch by sara levine | 43m 01s | ||||||
| 3/19/26 | ![]() short dark oracles by sara levine | our sara levine module kicks off with her short story collection, short dark oracles. after comparing ourselves to other media with animals making noise in the background, we talk about our favorite stories from the collection, the value in a successful short story (as well as how the arc of a short story has changed over the years), and our favorite lines (mostly: the ones that made us laugh out loud). shreds talks about a shirt that makes him sick. we talk about a dog with a chapbook, a kinship between sara levine and lisa hanawalt, and how we wish we had even more writing of levine’s to look forward to. (this prompts shreds to talk about tao lin’s “10 more novels” idea.) a youtube comment inspires us to discuss books and movies we immediately started again after finishing. we heap more praise on matt johnson and nirvanna the band the show the movie. reading list for season eighteen short dark oracles by sara levinetreasure island!!! by sara levinethe hitch by sara levine | 42m 47s | ||||||
| 3/12/26 | ![]() season eighteen theme and reading list | it’s time for another season of the podcast, but before we head to another state module, we’re reading the work of sara levine. it’s our third author-focused module. we talk about the pre-podcast lore (and the role of treasure island!!!) and the qualifications of being invited onto our show (or being selected for this type of focus). shreds recounts another time he was embarrassed in class. reading list for season eighteen short dark oracles by sara levinetreasure island!!! by sara levinethe hitch by sara levine | 8m 04s | ||||||
| 3/5/26 | ![]() from hell by alan moore | we’re wrapping up our 1990s module with from hell by alan moore, more 1999 facts, and an answer to the question: how old are we, really? after talking about why this book is invalid for this module, we check in with shreds about his self-imposed homework. we then talk about what we admire in from hell (and what frustrates joey, which shreds says is by design), while shreds heaps praise on alan moore (and defends him against goodreads reviews). we compare from hell to watchmen and explore alan moore’s interest in time as a construct. we compare the second appendix to understanding comics, admire eddie campbell’s art, and talk about the feng shui of towns. plus: the supernatural (?) ending, the masonic inclusions, and all things gull. we self-mythologize — somebody’s gotta do what we’re doing! — we plan out potential future modules, and we wonder: when do people find us? also: could this be adapted in a better way, unlike the johnny depp movie? reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 50m 41s | ||||||
| 2/19/26 | ![]() the poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolver | our 1990s module continues with the poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolver, whose backstory informs her writing in a unique way. after joey shares some 1998 facts (which shows how timely this novel is), we talk about the historical context within the text, as well as the way it depicts universal societal/cultural upheaval. we discuss the timing of ruth may’s death in this text (vs. a more “traditional” story), the beauty in never hearing nathan’s perspective, and the idea of knowing a thing before you know it (or living temporarily in a state of blissful ignorance). we talk about a section that harkens back to the atlas (but isn’t as effective) and the assumption that books in translation have the “correct” meaning. egg writes in about guilt and theology, and we talk about education and reclaiming our humanity. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 54m 32s | ||||||
| 2/5/26 | ![]() i love dick by chris kraus | our 1990s season continues with i love dick by chris kraus and a slew of 1997 facts, including lots of titanic talk. the big question, right off the bat: how did they make this a tv series? (shreds plans to investigate.) we discuss the text’s format and two (very different) halves, the reference to kathy acker, and the inherent sadness and embarrassment in this novel and in sylvere leaving her. we attempt to refilter chris’s obsession through a modern lens, and we also try to contextualize the feminism of the text. what is chris kraus’s impression of this world? it’s unclear, which we struggle with. we hear from the egg and read youtube comments we missed. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 41m 26s | ||||||
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| 1/22/26 | ![]() the atlas by william t. vollmann | we’ve entered 1996 with the atlas by william t. vollmann, which has laid a curse upon our podcast. after an unprecedented preview of an upcoming module, we discuss vollmann’s various writing styles he uses throughout the text (and what they do). joey shares some 1996 facts, including a quick look back at video games that blew our minds. we talk about vollmann acting as a journalist (but also intervening), the meaning of the only thing that vollmann ever footnotes throughout the text, and how the atlas is a book that makes you feel like you’ve never lived live… and maybe that’s okay. mosquitoes: aaaah! we explore the ambitious structure of the text (and how it doesn’t necessarily land without re-reading) and how vollmann parallels western constructs to the reality of the rest of the world. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 51m 04s | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | ![]() sabbath's theater by philip roth | the 1990s keeps on truckin’ as we advance into 1995 for sabbath’s theater by philip roth. after talking about patricia lockwood’s new book (will there ever be another you), joey shares some 1995 facts, including some pride for our new jersey devils. then, we talk about how sabbath’s theater fully sticks the landing (with an all-time great final line, not to mention a great opening line), how the text is reminiscent of charlie kaufman, and why no one writes like philip roth anymore. shreds discusses the end goals of the misogyny in roth’s novels. we talk about the way roth writes about new jersey, the emotional weight of the pivot to mickey’s brother dying in world war ii, the distinct difference between horny books written by men and ones written by women, and how roth reflects masculinity in sabbath’s theater. shreds breaks down the common comparison between roth and woody allen. joey talks about the audiobook, narrated by john turturro. we read a couple of emails from the egg. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 57m 34s | ||||||
| 12/25/25 | ![]() notes of a crocodile by qiu miaojin | we’re talking about notes of a crocodile by qiu miaojin. first, though: 1994 facts and talk of the car that shreds will never buy. we discuss qiu miaojin’s tragic end (and how it pops up a lot among our authors) and the equally dark inspiration for this novel (which still winds up being not a total downer). shreds compares notes of a crocodile‘s tonal ties to no longer human and colorless tsukuru tazaki. joey shares big updates in his life since our last episode. we discuss the cultural legacy of crocodile and how qiu miaojin is able to capture the emotional heights of young love. we take a brief interlude for a quick review of paul thomas anderson’s one battle after another and to discuss what he and pynchon do well that the other does not. we get another email about the patreon and we hear from the egg, who likens this text to those by two other female authors. in an unprecedented move, we announce our next big module way early. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 43m 24s | ||||||
| 12/11/25 | ![]() trainspotting by irvine welsh | we enter into 1993 with trainspotting by irvine welsh, which released on january 1. (whew, we just snuck in there!) after shreds fails to surface any 1993 facts, joey saves the day. we talk about a 90s novel set in the 90s, explore the irvine welsh shared universe, and discuss the dialectal writing in the text as well as the line that welsh straddles. we talk about how to describe the novel (in terms of it being a novel about masculinity, colonialism, heroin, and hiv) and how masculinity in 90s literature was defined by three writers (bret easton ellis, irvine welsh, and chuck palahniuk). we also make sure to talk about the humor (and how fresh this writing sounded upon release) before briefly discussing the adaptation (and what it changes/omits). shreds recounts an embarrassing moment from a film class. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 59m 40s | ||||||
| 11/27/25 | ![]() all the pretty horses by cormac mccarthy | our 1990s module continues with all the pretty horses by cormac mccarthy, marking a rapid return to his writing after covering blood meridian earlier this year. after discussing whether we could have approached “the border trilogy” in another way, we discuss 1992 facts (wherein shreds makes a generous offer) and talk about mccarthy’s assumption that you understand a fair amount of spanish to read his work. we talk about the minimal plot found in all the pretty horses, how this book serves as both an antidote to blood meridian and a possible return to religion for mccarthy, and the focus on morality in this text. we also talk about the “offscreen” violence (and reading with a fear of blood meridian-esque violence), whether we could do a module of books set in the 1990s (rather than published then), and the hallmarks of the western genre. we also talk about the issues with billy bob thornton’s film adaptation (though it’s likely not his fault). reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 45m 18s | ||||||
| 11/13/25 | ![]() mao ii by don delillo | we’ve progressed into 1991 to talk about mao ii by don delillo, and joey has finally done his due diligence and brought some 90s facts. we start things off by talking about whether or not it’s important to have historical context for the events covered in the text, how dull (complimentary) and realistic delillo’s writing is, and the death of the novelist as a cultural touchstone/celebrity. we talk about art in delillo’s books as an avenue of compulsion for its creators, how nice it is to return to an author you love, and whether the andy warhol-inspired title is fitting for the text. egg writes in a short email. we talk about the cult psychology of fandom, learning “how” to read delillo (or any author), and the first three episodes of alien: earth. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 52m 34s | ||||||
| 10/30/25 | ![]() vineland by thomas pynchon | our 1990s module kicks off with vineland by thomas pynchon and an existential dilemma: are we starting off this module with a lie? after talking about getting our hands on media before its release date, we detour to discuss radiohead’s live “hail to the thief” album, which shreds expertly weaves right into the novel description via paul thomas anderson’s upcoming “loose adaptation” of vineland. joey shares his pov coming into this (and how it failed him); we talk about the misdirection of vineland not really being a novel about zoyd and discuss who the main character really is. we talk about the novel being structurally strange, pynchon’s exploration of 60s counter-culture (and the yippie to yuppie pipeline), and the amount of time he’s taken to publish his work. we critique the things that pynchon doesn’t do very well and admire him for what he does. shreds gives tips on reading a book where you get lost within the plot. we ask: please, write in about this book. also: happy halloween. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchonmao ii by don delilloall the pretty horses by cormac mccarthytrainspotting by irvine welshnotes of a crocodile by qiu miaojinsabbath’s theater by philip roththe atlas by william t. vollmanni love dick by chris krausthe poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolverfrom hell by alan moore | 53m 54s | ||||||
| 10/23/25 | ![]() season seventeen theme and reading list | it’s time to unveil our next full-length module, which comes as a surprise to joey, too: we’re heading back to the 1990s. after shreds reveils the ungodly length of the original form of this module, we discuss how the form of this module is yet another one that we could cycle through. shreds announces the titles while confirming what we all know: we needed a win. we share a warning that we may pause to read new books! shreds avers that he is settling some personal business with these titles. joey realizes he gets to do 90s facts. reading list for season seventeen vineland by thomas pynchon mao ii by don delillo all the pretty horses by cormac mccarthy trainspotting by irvine welsh notes of a crocodile by qiu miaojin sabbath’s theater by philip roth the atlas by william t. vollmann i love dick by chris kraus the poisonwood bible by barbara kingsolver from hell by alan moore | 12m 59s | ||||||
| 10/16/25 | ![]() the demon by hubert selby, jr. | the second book in our second great american novel module is the demon by hubert selby, jr. does it pair well with the sound and the fury? that’s what we’re discussing. first, though, we check in with shreds to see if this is the novel that he remembered reading, what his history with it is, and what it inspired him to want to do. we talk about the book’s punctuation and hubert selby jr.’s sort of unorthodox path to a writing career. we explore the novel’s escalation, our feeling of “how bad can it get?”, and how inevitable the plot feels (as well as how it manages to refrain from ever being boring). we dunk on harry for his pedestrian pickup lines, discuss the other works that came to mind while reading this book, and explore the metaphors that worked (and the ones that don’t) in the text. joey shows shreds the insane original cover art. reading list for season sixteen the sound and the fury by william faulknerthe demon by hubert selby, jr. | 52m 27s | ||||||
| 10/2/25 | ![]() the sound and the fury by william faulkner | our second great american novel module kicks off with the sound and the fury by william faulkner. joey explains his difficulties with parsing the text and how he approached it, while shreds talks about the character he identifies with. we explore a time when authors were less afraid to reckon with big ideas — as well as the authors still doing it now. we also ask, with regards to the text’s experimental prose: is faulkner better the more difficult his work gets? we explore the connected faulkner universe and look ahead to connections with hubert selby jr.’s the demon (our next book). shreds talks a bit about the faulkner-penned (though still factually inaccurate) appendix. joey digs up some patreon-exclusive features to apply to this text, which then leads to an offer to you, the listener. we discuss being alone in either appreciating (or not appreciating) art that no one else (or everyone else) seems to appreciate. reading list for season sixteen the sound and the fury by william faulknerthe demon by hubert selby, jr. | 36m 38s | ||||||
| 9/25/25 | ![]() season sixteen theme and reading list | we’re back to find out what will be in store in our next great american novel module. also, we wonder: could we run out? does shreds enjoy reading? after a refresher on how this works (and teasing future great american novel modules), we discuss whether or not this is what the podcast “should” be, and if these mini-modules are the purest version of what we do. then, we roll the die, which yields another intense module. reading list for season sixteen the sound and the fury by william faulkner the demon by hubert selby, jr. | 13m 49s | ||||||
| 9/18/25 | ![]() danielle chelosky interview (author of cheat, show me your face, pregaming grief, baby bruise, female loneliness epidemic) | after covering her work for the past several episodes, we talked to danielle chelosky. we asked about fiction vs. nonfiction (specifically with regard to the right way to read her work), nonfiction being treated by reviewers as gossip, and how danielle attempts to capture the feeling of specific moments without seeming cringe. she talks about how she chooses which form her writing will take, her thoughts on mixed media, her finsta (and how it helps her catalog digital memorabilia), and writing as a persona. she teases a written but unreleased sequel to pregaming grief and how writing serves as a way to help her keep up with her memories. we talk about covid as an aesthetic backdrop, danielle’s pivot to other points of view in female loneliness epidemic, and the french literature she is most interested in. where’s her kaiju novel? is danielle emo? is cheat a prequel to pregaming grief? we ask. reading list for season fifteen cheat and show me your face by danielle cheloskypregaming grief by danielle cheloskybaby bruise and female loneliness epidemic by danielle chelosky | 49m 50s | ||||||
| 9/11/25 | ![]() baby bruise and female loneliness epidemic by danielle chelosky | it’s another double dip of danielle chelosky’s writing this episode, as we cover baby bruise and female loneliness epidemic. after lamenting what twitter has become (and what we lost), we talk about the title of chelosky’s short story collection, how frank o’hara’s meditations in an emergency relates to the work, and how we continue to approach her work as though it’s not auto-fiction. we talk about the evolution of stories written about young people, the vivid first lines in female loneliness epidemic, and the benefits of telling technology-agnostic stories. we explore the evolution of chelosky’s writing from cheat through “terror,” and we pivot to discussing baby bruise by discussing how her short-form writing compares to her longer-form stuff. in discussing baby bruise, we talk about teen girl music tastes and the relatability of the musical taste elements in the text, whether the character of dave is very sad or high comedy (or both), and how the book never gets as dark as you imagine it might. reading list for season fifteen cheat and show me your face by danielle cheloskypregaming grief by danielle cheloskybaby bruise and female loneliness epidemic by danielle chelosky | 52m 09s | ||||||
| 8/28/25 | ![]() pregaming grief by danielle chelosky | our danielle chelosky module continues with pregaming grief, her first published piece of long-form writing. we talk about its ties to cheat, whether it could (canonically) be in the gossip girl universe, and how auto-fiction relates to this novel, her work as a whole, and the wider literature. we explore pregaming grief as a covid-era novel, albeit not a book about the disease itself, as well as how this informs the plot. chelosky’s description of older lovers hit a bit too close to home for us. we talk about her ability to write characters without condemning them (but in a way the reader likely will), her ability to write about a difficult state of mind, and the (limited) use of technology in this novel. shreds praise the very sudden ending. what’s blake middleton been up to? we wonder. reading list for season fifteen cheat and show me your face by danielle cheloskypregaming grief by danielle cheloskybaby bruise and female loneliness epidemic by danielle chelosky | 29m 58s | ||||||
| 8/14/25 | ![]() cheat and show me your face by danielle chelosky | our danielle chelosky module kicks off with a pair of chapbooks that she self-published: cheat and show me your face. (it’s our first-ever “two books in one podcast” episode, and we do our best to keep ’em separated.) we talk about how both titles are very sexual and sexualized, but almost devoid of joy and not at all sexy, by design. we explore the similar content told in two very different styles/formats (plus the mixed media found in show me your face), how one text is technology-agnostic (while the other much more “of the time”), and how people of a certain generation learned to write through sites like livejournal and xanga. we talk about putting a version of you (that isn’t really you) online and how elements learned in show me your face make cheat more sad in retrospect. egg writes in to share similar (yet totally opposite) experiences. we imagine how inspiring and empowering it must have been to be a young writer in nyc around 2012. what would happen if chelosky added a kaiju to this narrative? we discuss. reading list for season fifteen cheat and show me your face by danielle cheloskypregaming grief by danielle cheloskybaby bruise and female loneliness epidemic by danielle chelosky | 37m 50s | ||||||
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