Rethinking Careers When No One Leaves

Rethinking Careers When No One Leaves

From HR Disrupted by Disruptive HR

April 14, 2026 · 27 min · Episode 99

About this episode

Lucy Adams and Eva Murciano discuss how to keep careers moving in organizations with low turnover and the importance of reframing career progression.

n this episode, Lucy Adams is joined by Eva Murciano to explore one of the biggest challenges facing organisations today: how to keep careers moving in environments where people stay for a long time. Drawing on Eva’s experience at the European Central Bank, they unpack the tension between having a highly committed, purpose-driven workforce and the unintended consequences of low turnover; stagnation, limited progression, and skills that risk becoming outdated. Their conversation challenges the traditional idea of career progression as a ladder to climb. Instead, Lucy and Eva discuss the need to reframe careers around growth, skills, and experiences. They explore why both employees and managers often resist internal mobility, and what organisations can do to shift mindsets. From redefining success to making movement the norm rather than the exception, this episode offers practical insight into what it really takes to future-proof careers. Eva also shares how the ECB is experimenting with a structured approach to mobility through its “3–5–8 model,” encouraging employees to think proactively about their next move. It’s an honest discussion about what works, what’s still evolving, and…

People in this episode

Host: Lucy Adams

Guest: Eva Murciano

Topics covered

  • career progression
  • internal mobility
  • employee retention
  • skills development
  • organizational change

Keywords

  • future-proof careers
  • 3–5–8 model
  • dynamic career paths
  • HR role

Mentioned in this episode

Products: 3–5–8 model

Books & works: Rethinking Careers When No One Leaves

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