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USA 250: Building a new Rome
Jun 25, 2026
52m 56s
USA 250: President Jackson and the Emperor’s Tomb
Jun 18, 2026
50m 36s
USA 250: America’s Roman Revolution
Jun 11, 2026
51m 37s
What did the Romans dream about?
Jun 4, 2026
55m 23s
Cleopatra 5: Cleopatra on Screen
May 28, 2026
1h 00m 47s
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| 6/25/26 | ![]() USA 250: Building a new Rome | Shortly after its formation, the United States of America initiated a building program for both state and federal governments, turning to Ancient Greece and Rome for inspiration. As Mary and Charlotte discover… In-between duties like writing the Declaration of Independence, acting as Minister to France and being President, Thomas Jefferson found time to make inspiration trips to study Roman architecture in France. Although he didn’t design the Capitol in Washington DC, he set the tone with his designs for Monticello (his Virginia home) as well as the University of Virginia and Virginia State Capitol. Over the decades, other influences gained greater prominence - whether nostalgic styles like the gothic or the modernity of Frank Lloyd Wright. But neo-classicism is on the rise once again. According to President Trump’s executive order Making Architecture Beautiful Again, ‘classical’ is the preferred style for federal buildings - in particular, the plan for a ‘United States Triumphal Arch’. Mary and Charlotte recommend some further reading: Donald Trump’s executive order on classical architecture. Edwin Heathcote, the architecture critic of the Financial Times, on triumphal arches and DC. The DC Commission of Fine Arts have published the schemes for Trump’s arch: https://www.cfa.gov/system/files/meeting-materials/1-CFA-16APR26-1-EOP_DOI_Arch-pres%20%5BApr9%5D.pdf The first scheme for the Navy Memorial, including the triumphal arch is shown here: https://escholarship.org/content/qt9r40k5hd/qt9r40k5hd_noSplash_87482e06371178d8fcd9bb449eb06f39.pdf A useful website for Jefferson’s classical architecture: https://www.monticello.org/jefferson-and/architecture The temporary triumphal arch in DC is pictured here: https://ggwash.org/view/40678/dc-once-had-its-own-arc-de-triomphe The detailed history of triumphal arches, from antiquity to now, is the subject of Peter Howell, The Triumphal Arch (Unicorn, 2021) Mary’s The Roman Triumph (Harvard UP, pb, 2009) discusses the Roman significance of these arches, and the incident with Pompey’s elephants. @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 52m 56s | ||||||
| 6/18/26 | ![]() USA 250: President Jackson and the Emperor’s Tomb | Last year, Mary spent nine months in Washington D.C. During this time, she became interested in visual iconography and real objects of Ancient Greece and Rome on display in the city’s museums and streets. In this episode, she tells Charlotte about her fascination with a sarcophagus in the Smithsonian collection, which was believed once to have held the remains of Emperor Alexander Severus. In the 1830s, a US navy commander based in the Mediterranean ‘acquired’ the sarcophagus in Lebanon and sent it back home with the suggestion it could be used as a tomb for President Andrew Jackson. This forced the question: was it appropriate for an American president to be buried in a Roman sarcophagus? On one hand, the USA liked to position itself as the inheritor of Roman values. On the other, Severus, who became Emperor after his cousin Elagabalus (a favourite of the show) was bumped off, was a despot, even if a comparatively benign one. The problem was heightened by the fact Jackson was frequently accused of acting like a ‘Caesar’. The conundrum of the sarcophagus went right to the height of the tensions - then as now - in the USA’s idolisation of Ancient Rome. As Mary reveals, there are many twists and turns to this story, which ends - bizarrely enough - with Peter Fonda’s Harley-Davison from the film Easy Rider. How are the two connected? Listen to find out! Mary and Charlotte recommend some further reading: Mary wrote about this sarcophagus a few years back in the Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/books/a-tomb-not-fit-for-a-president-11634356860 (it’s pay-walled, but the free bit gives you a great picture of a couple admiring it); and it was the object that book-ended her Twelve Caesars: Images of power from the ancient world to the modern (Princeton UP, pb, 2023). See also, from the Smithsonian: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/andrew-jackson-populist-even-deathbed-180962124/ The Roman archaeology of the sarcophagus: J B Ward Perkins, “Four Garland Sarcophagi in America”, in the journal Archaeology for 1958. Andrew Jackson (and his Caesarism) features in the first chapter of Margaret Malamud’s Ancient Rome and Modern America (Wily Blackwell, 2009) @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 50m 36s | ||||||
| 6/11/26 | ![]() USA 250: America’s Roman Revolution✨ | American RevolutionAncient Rome+4 | Joy Connolly | ACLSCato+4 | USA | American RevolutionAncient Rome+6 | — | 51m 37s | |
| 6/4/26 | ![]() What did the Romans dream about?✨ | Roman dreamsArtemidorus+4 | — | Oxford World’s ClassicsCambridge UP+2 | Ephesus | dream interpretationArtemidorus+6 | — | 55m 23s | |
| 5/28/26 | ![]() Cleopatra 5: Cleopatra on Screen✨ | Cleopatrafilm history+3 | Professor Maria Wyke | RoutledgeOUP+5 | 21st Century | Cleopatrafilm+5 | — | 1h 00m 47s | |
| 5/21/26 | ![]() Cleopatra 4: Cleopatra on the Page✨ | Cleopatrabiography+4 | Lucy Hughes-Hallett | Cleopatra: Histories, Dreams and DistortionsThe Death of Cleopatra | — | Cleopatrabiography+7 | — | 53m 41s | |
| 5/17/26 | ![]() BONUS Mary & Charlotte on the latest trailer for Christopher Nolan's Odyssey✨ | film adaptationtrailer analysis+3 | MaryCharlotte | Instant ClassicsChristopher Nolan+2 | — | trailerChristopher Nolan+5 | — | 7m 28s | |
| 5/14/26 | ![]() Cleopatra 3: Life After Death✨ | CleopatraMark Antony+4 | — | AeneidOdes 1.37 | — | CleopatraMark Antony+7 | — | 48m 45s | |
| 5/7/26 | ![]() Cleopatra 2: Cleopatra Meets the Romans✨ | CleopatraRoman history+5 | — | Plutarch’s Life of Mark AntonyAntony and Cleopatra+1 | — | CleopatraJulius Caesar+5 | — | 46m 16s | |
| 4/30/26 | ![]() Cleopatra 1: Last Egyptian Pharaoh✨ | CleopatraPtolemy dynasty+4 | — | Oxford UPVirgin books+1 | — | CleopatraPtolemy+5 | — | 59m 19s | |
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| 4/23/26 | ![]() Classic Chats: Grayson Perry on why he hates classical civilisation✨ | classical civilisationart+4 | Grayson Perry | King’s College LondonThe Tomb of the Unknown Craftsman+1 | — | Grayson Perryclassical civilisation+5 | — | 50m 12s | |
| 4/16/26 | ![]() Talking Classics with Mary Beard✨ | classical studieshistory+5 | Mary Beard | ProfilebooksTalking Classics+1 | — | Mary BeardTalking Classics+6 | — | 57m 22s | |
| 4/9/26 | ![]() Perpetua: A Martyr in Her Own Words✨ | Christian martyrdomRoman Empire+3 | — | Oxford UPPerpetua’s diary | CarthageTunisia | PerpetuaChristianity+5 | — | 53m 18s | |
| 4/2/26 | ![]() Antigone: Girl vs Tyrant✨ | Greek tragedyfeminism+4 | — | Oxford UPAntigone+1 | — | AntigoneSophocles+6 | — | 52m 10s | |
| 3/26/26 | ![]() Roman Graffiti: The Writing on the Wall✨ | Roman graffitidaily life+5 | — | The GuardianOxford UP+4 | PompeiiHerculaneum+1 | Roman graffitiPompeii+5 | — | 54m 28s | |
| 3/19/26 | ![]() The Great Plague of Athens✨ | plagueAncient Athens+4 | MaryCharlotte | The American JournalHistory+1 | — | Great PlagueAthens+5 | — | 52m 59s | |
| 3/12/26 | ![]() What Did the Romans Eat? Part 2: Plebs’ Food✨ | Roman foodancient diets+4 | — | — | PompeiiHerculaneum+1 | Roman foodPompeii+5 | — | 44m 24s | |
| 3/5/26 | ![]() What Did the Romans Eat? Part 1: Posh Food✨ | Roman foodposh food+3 | — | Apicius’ De re culinaria | — | Roman foodElagabalus+5 | — | 54m 32s | |
| 2/26/26 | ![]() Classic Chats: Tom Holland✨ | Ancient Romehistorical literature+4 | Tom Holland | Rest is HistoryRubicon: The Last Years of the Roman Republic+4 | — | Tom HollandAncient Rome+6 | — | 56m 26s | |
| 2/19/26 | ![]() Who's Afraid of Lupercalia?✨ | Roman festivalsLupercalia+3 | — | The Lupercalia | Ancient Rome | LupercaliaAncient Rome+3 | — | 47m 20s | |
| 2/12/26 | ![]() Villain, Victim... Double Agent? The Many Lives of Helen of Troy pt 4 | Greece gave way to Rome and the Roman Empire too declined, but Helen of Troy survived. Forever young and relevant, she has been reimagined by generation after generation. In the last episode of this mini-series, Mary and Charlotte look at Helen’s enduring appeal in the modern age. They show how she appeared in the poetry of medieval bards, inspired playwright Christopher Marlowe to create one of the most famous lines in English literature (the face that launched a thousand ships) - and how Shakespeare, not wanting to be outdone by Marlowe, said her face launched ‘over’ a thousand ships. Mary describes some of her favourite 19th century paintings of Helen - and discusses the problem of how you paint a face that, by definition, is more beautiful than the face of any artist model. Charlotte talks about how that problem continues in cinema (with a side anecdote about asking Brad Pitt the wrong question at the launch of the film Troy). Finally, Charlotte and Mary compare some of their favourite Helens in modern literature, including Margaret Atwood’s Penelopiad (2005), Pat Barker’s The Silence of the Girls (2018) and Natalia Haynes’ A Thousand Ships (2019) @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Paintings referred to: G Moreau, Helen at the Scaean Gates https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Helene_a_la_porte_scee_-_gustave_moreau_-_2.jpg F. A Sandys, Helen of Troy https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/artifact/helen-of-troy (The original magazine illustration from which the painting is excerpted: https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O783702/illustration-to-helen-and-cassandra-print-sandys-frederick/ ) E de Morgan, Helen of Troy: https://www.demorgan.org.uk/collection/helen-of-troy/ Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 55m 51s | ||||||
| 2/5/26 | ![]() Villain, Victim... Double Agent? The Many Lives of Helen of Troy pt 3 | What happened to Helen after the Trojan War? Mary and Charlotte pick up the trail of mythology’s most famous femme fatale as she makes the long journey home from Troy. The big question at the end of the previous episode was whether her husband Menelaus would kill her as revenge for betraying him with Paris. Needless to say, her charms win out and, after a long stop in Egypt, where she acquires some amazing accessories, they return home to Sparta. Just in time for Telemachus, son of Odysseus, to arrive and ask them if he knows where his father is? The Helen of The Odyssey Book 4 takes us by surprise. She and Menelaus have settled into a rather humdrum domestic companionship. And it raises the question: was all that fighting and bloodshed worth it? For this? Just as fascinating as Homer’s surprise depiction is a theory embedded in Greek texts that Helen never actually went to Troy, but sat out the whole affair in relative safety in Egypt. The Helen people saw on the ramparts of Troy was simply an eidolon - an image. Mary and Charlotte show how the true nature of Helen - villain, victim or double agent? - provided an endless source of debate, and opportunities for creative flights of fancy, in the ancient world. Finally, they look at a few of the different accounts of her final years. @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Mary and Charlotte recommend some further reading: In addition to the reading recommended for the earlier episodes: The whole tradition of the phantom of Helen is discussed in detail by Norman Austin in Helen of Troy and her Shameless Phantom (Cornell UP, 2018) Helen and Menelaus in Sparta feature in Book 4 of the Odyssey (with a detailed recent discussion by J Burgess in The Oxford Critical Guide to Homer’s Odyssey, ed Christensen (Oxford UP, pb, 2025)) Herodotus’ account is at his Histories 2, 112 ff Euripides’ play Helen is available online here https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0100 though it is a rather old-fashioned translation (be warned!) and there is a full performance (by students) on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MVyAZbRaK0 Emily Wilson translated Euripides’ Helen as part of a recommended (if you want to go for it) fat selection of Greek plays in recent translation: The Greek Plays: Sixteen Plays by Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides (Modern Library Classics, pbck, 2017) edited by Mary Lefkowitz and James Romm Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 44m 57s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | ![]() BONUS Mary & Charlotte on the trailer for Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey | Christopher Nolan’s adaptation of The Odyssey is set to be the blockbuster event of the summer. With the first trailers now coming online, Mary and Charlotte take a look to get a sense if the hype is worth it. Have your say at… @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 7m 22s | ||||||
| 1/29/26 | ![]() Villain, Victim... Double Agent? The Many Lives of Helen of Troy pt2 | When Paris, a Trojan prince, abducted Helen of Sparta, the Greeks came in hot pursuit and besieged Troy for ten years. But what was Helen’s role in all this? Was she really kidnapped, or did she elope? And whose side was she really on during the ensuing war? Mary and Charlotte turn to a variety of ancient texts to explore these questions. In Homer’s The Iliad - the longest and greatest account of the war - Helen isn’t even one of the main characters. She watches Paris and Menelaus fight a duel in her name, draws the admiration of old men, and spends some sexy time with Paris. In The Odyssey, we find out about her role in the final episode of the war - the Trojan Horse. Here she appears more of a double agent: secretly communicating with Odysseus, but also tormenting his soldiers. In Virgil’s Aeneid, she is a hate figure and a focus of murderous fantasies for the hero Aeneas. Finally, Mary and Charlotte look at The Trojan Women by Euripides, where Helen defends herself as a victim of the gods and her own beauty. Menelaus plans to slaughter her, but we know by the end of this play that is unlikely. What happens next is the focus of the next episode! @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Mary and Charlotte recommend some further reading: The key sections of the Iliad that feature Helen are Book 3 (where she appears 4 times), Book 6, 342 ff and towards the very end of Book 24. Helen herself and Menelaus tell her story of the war in Odyssey Book 4, esp. 220ff. Aeneas’s outburst against Helen is in Virgil Aeneid Book 2, 567 ff. Key modern works on Helen and her role in myth and literature are: Ruby Blondell, Helen of Troy: Beauty, Myth, Devastation (Oxford UP, pb, 2015) Bettany Hughes, Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore (Pimlico, pb, 2013) Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 49m 35s | ||||||
| 1/22/26 | ![]() Villain, Victim... Double Agent? The Many Lives of Helen of Troy pt 1 | Sex goddess. Whore. Temptress. Adulteress. Victim. Helen of Troy has been called many things. In the run-up to Christopher Nolan’s adaptation of The Odyssey later this year, amidst swirling rumours about who is playing Helen, Mary and Charlotte look beyond the labels and ask: who was Helen really and what role does she play in myth? This isn’t an easy question to answer. Accounts of Helen’s character and life come from myriad sources - many of which contradict one another. In the first episode of our four-part series, Mary and Charlotte look at Helen’s early years. She was born of a rape, when Zeus, disguised as a swan, forced himself upon Leda, Queen of Sparta. The young Helen was married to Menelaus, brother of Agamemnon, and became queen of Sparta. The trouble began hundreds of miles away and the so-called Judgement of Paris. Paris was the son of King Priam of Troy. In a high-stakes wedding game (think opening scene of The Godfather), he was asked to choose which of the goddesses Hera, Athena and Aphrodite was most beautiful. Aphrodite bribed him by promising he could have the most beautiful mortal woman in the world, conveniently forgetting that Helen was already married. Paris went to Sparta to collect his prize. He waited for Menelaus to depart the scene, then took Helen to Troy. Whether she eloped or was abducted has been debated ever since. And so… the Trojan War. @instaclassicpod for Insta, TikTok and YouTube @insta_classics for X email: instantclassicspod@gmail.com Mary and Charlotte recommend some further reading: There are many ancient accounts of the Judgement of Paris and the events leading up to it. You can find the parody of Lucian here (it’s the last of his Dialogues of the Gods): https://www.theoi.com/Text/LucianDialoguesGods1.html A more standard ancient account of Helen’s back story, her marriage and the judgement of Paris is given by Apollodorus (or Pseudo-Apollodorus!), writing during the Roman empire, see esp. 3. 10. 7 ff and Epitome 3: https://www.theoi.com/Text/Apollodorus3.html#10 and https://www.theoi.com/Text/ApollodorusE.html#3 For modern discussions of Helen (relevant to this and our later episodes): Ruby Blondell, Helen of Troy: Beauty, Myth, Devastation (Oxford UP, pb, 2015) Bettany Hughes, Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore (Pimlico, pb, 2013) Instant Classics handmade by Vespucci Producer: Jonty Claypole Video Editor: Jak Ford Theme music: Casey Gibson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices | 41m 00s | ||||||
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