About this episode
Su Cizem discusses the challenges of AI governance and the importance of establishing international red lines for AI safety.
Technology has been moving faster than policy for some time now, and the advent of AI isn't changing that, so what can we do to maintain safety despite uncertainty? Su Cizem has spent the last few years trying to answer that question. As an analyst at the Future Society, she works on global AI governance, specifically on building international consensus around AI red lines: the thresholds we collectively agree must never be crossed. In this conversation, Su walks through her path from philosophy to policy, the evolution of the global AI safety summit series, why voluntary commitments from AI labs aren't enough, and what it would actually take to make international cooperation on AI safety real. Chapters (00:00) - Introduction (03:23) - From Philosophy to Policy (22:25) - What AI Governance Actually Means (26:49) - The Summit Series (43:01) - Drawing The Red Lines (01:10:51) - Can These Companies Govern Themselves? (01:24:01) - Breaking Into The Field (01:27:51) - Closing Thoughts & Outro Critical Links Below are the most important links for this episode. For more, visit the episode page on Kairos.fm. Su's LinkedIn Global Call for AI Red Lines The Futures Society report…
People in this episode
Host: Jacob Haimes
Guest: Su Cizem
Topics covered
- AI safety
- global governance
- policy
- international cooperation
- red lines
- AI ethics
Keywords
- AI governance
- safety
- policy
- international cooperation
- red lines
- ethics
- voluntary commitments
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Future Society, Politico, TechPolicy.Press, The Guardian
Books & works: Facing the Stakes of AI Together: 2025 Athens Roundtable Report
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