Just us On Justice and Other Things

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Scott and Dan welcome Dr. Heather Armstrong for a wide-ranging conversation on the gut–brain connection and its growing relevance for first responder health. Dr. Armstrong explains how the research team—working closely with Andrew Martin and frontline agencies—is uncovering meaningful links between gut health, sleep, physiology, and mental health. Early data suggests first responders are experiencing poorer overall health across multiple biological systems compared to the general population, reinforcing the need for earlier, more personalized interventions. The Better First Responders initiative continues to expand and is, in Dr. Armstrong’s words, only just getting started. While current efforts remain focused locally, discussions are underway to broaden participation across provinces and into North America through emerging international partnerships. Who Can Participate The study has now opened its doors widely across the first responder community. This includes: • Police services • Fire services (including wildland and community fire) • Paramedics • Correctional officers • Security personnel and related first response roles The team emphasized that correctional officers are absolutely considered part of the first responder community and that Andrew Martin has strongly advocated for their inclusion. From a research standpoint, larger groups with similar schedules and job demands make statistical analysis easier and more powerful. However, the study remains wide open—even smaller groups or individuals are encouraged to participate, as every data point helps build the broader picture. Practical, Participant-Focused Research A central theme of the episode is sustainability. Rather than recommending overwhelming lifestyle overhauls, the research focuses on small, realistic changes that can create meaningful health improvements without adding stress to already demanding careers. Transparency is another key differentiator. Participants receive their own biosampling results—including microbiome and blood analyses—along with plain-language explanations. Despite the significant cost of this work (approximately $12,000 per participant), the team is committed to ensuring first responders understand their own biology and health standing. The researchers also maintain an open-door policy, actively inviting feedback from first responders about what should be studied next. Call to Action Importantly, individuals do not need to wait for their organization to sign on. Any eligible first responder can reach out directly and begin the intake process. Interested participants can: • Search the emergency responder MMR in GSI study title • Visit the program website • Connect via Facebook or Instagram • Contact Team Manager John Jenvo (details available through the program) Bottom line: This is collaborative, transparent research designed with first responders in mind—and the work to improve long-term health outcomes is still gaining momentum.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

In this episode, Scott and Dan are joined by physiologist and human performance expert Dr. Mike T. Nelson to explore how trauma, chronic stress, and incarceration reshape the nervous system and body. The conversation challenges punishment-based justice models and asks what rehabilitation could look like if regulation, sleep, and dignity were treated as foundations rather than privileges. Dr. Nelson explains how chronic fear and sleep deprivation dysregulate physiology, why harsh prison environments often increase recidivism, and how trauma almost always precedes criminal behavior. He also shares his personal strategies for staying regulated during stressful times, including routines around sleep, movement, light exposure, writing, and balancing information input with creative output. The episode highlights the need for trauma-informed, physiology-aware approaches to justice—and why true public safety begins with helping people regain the capacity to feel safe, focused, and human. Key Themes: • Trauma and incarceration • Nervous system dysregulation • Sleep, stress, and recovery • Regulation vs. punishment • Writing, creativity, and balanceBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

Welcome to Season Five of Just Us on Justice and Other Things. We’re approaching 100 episodes, and what started as a kitchen-table podcast continues to grow while keeping its grounded, conversational feel. For the Season 5 premiere, Scott and Danny are joined by Dean Guedo. The episode dives into movement, mental resilience, and the athlete’s journey—from football fields and powerlifting platforms to jiu jitsu mats. Dean shares his perspective on high-flux training, sustainable nutrition, and the evolving world of combat sports, explaining why technical skill often outweighs spectacle in grappling and stand-up fighting. He opens up about his own knee injury and ACL challenges, and how an athlete’s mindset—consistent rehab, staying active, and leaning on community—can make all the difference. Dean also explores the mental side of performance, breaking down therapy, visualization, and managing anxiety as tools for growth, not weakness. The conversation goes deeper, touching on identity beyond sports, parenting, and planning for life after the game—whether that’s coaching, counseling, or finding a new “tribe.” Dean shares how he plans to pursue a Master’s in Counseling, blending mental health, performance, and education to support others. Finally, they honor Treaty Six territory and seasonal rhythms, reminding us that rest and reflection are as important as action. This episode is perfect for anyone interested in sports, performance, mental health, or simply showing resilience in life.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

In this unplanned guest-free episode, Scott and Dan dive into an early year-end wrap-up filled with family milestones, travel oddities, and the emotional whiplash of major life transitions. Dan shares the joyful news of becoming a grandfather, including a Thanksgiving surprise and a golf-ball gender reveal announcing a granddaughter due April 11. The brothers also explore the strange realities of flying—plane-triggered periods, forgotten Lysol wipes, and the high carbon-dioxide levels James Nestor discusses on the Tim Ferriss Show. Scott opens up about the deeply difficult shift into empty-nest life, recounting a raw, unforgettable cry in his car after moving his youngest out. The two discuss retirement adjustments, maintaining purpose through teaching and community, and learning to slow down without slipping into isolation. With humor, honesty, and their usual brotherly banter, this episode captures everything from holiday irritations to big-picture perspective—highlighting resilience, family connection, and the unexpected moments that define a year.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

In this episode, Scott and Dan sit riverside in Edmonton’s fall colors to tackle some big and timely issues. After scrapping a first attempt (because they realized they were “grossly wrong” on a key point), the brothers return with a candid conversation that blends politics, education, policing, and a call for compassion. Topics Covered Alberta Teacher Strike Why teachers are without a contract and heading toward a strike. Class sizes, class complexity, and the wage gap. How underfunding impacts not just teachers, but kids, families, and long-term social outcomes. Personal stories from inside the education sector and why being “pro-teacher” matters. Book Bans in Alberta From The Handmaid’s Tale to 1984: why banning books is never just about books. The slippery slope of censorship and distractions from real educational issues. Gun Buybacks in Canada Evidence from around the world: why buybacks don’t reduce crime. The problem of performative politics vs. evidence-based policing. New Edmonton Police Chief The appointment of Warren Dreichel. Mental health and wellness in policing—why it matters more than ever. The importance of second chances and leadership rooted in lived experience. Truth and Reconciliation Day Beyond checkboxes and land acknowledgments. Walking daily with Indigenous peoples in a spirit of love and compassion. Key Takeaways Education is the strongest crime prevention tool we have. Teachers are not babysitters—they’re professionals shaping the future. Political parties on both sides have failed educators, and it’s time for accountability. Performative policies, whether book bans or gun buybacks, don’t solve real problems. Compassion—in classrooms, police services, and communities—has to be our starting point. Closing Thought “Truth and Reconciliation isn’t a day—it’s how we live, walk, and honor history every single day.”Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

[Season 4 / Episode 12 - Oops...We're Guestless Again] . In this episode, Scott and his brother Dan host an unscripted, guestless discussion reflecting on personal growth, endurance, and daily rituals. Highlights include: Dan’s humorous story of getting “accidentally buzzed” on a rum cocktail while watching golf. Scott’s inspiring journey learning to swim from scratch and completing a triathlon, exploring themes of perseverance, fear, and physical challenge. Reflections on the impact of endurance events on mental healtem regulation. Insights into cathartic activities, including cooking, walking in nature, cocktail-making, and heavy bag workouts. Discussions on lifestyle habits, from grapefruit and cranberry juice routines to managing late-night eating habits. Lighthearted commentary on sports etiquette, golf frustrations, and the quirks of daily life. The episode blends humor, life lessons, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners an intimate look into the brothers’ reflections on growth, discipline, and enjoyment of life’s small pleasures.yment of life’s small pleasures.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

In this unplanned guest-less episode, Scott and Dan lean into candid conversation, venting frustrations, sharing personal stories, and reflecting deeply on trauma, empathy, and modern life. They kick things off with a raw discussion about the recurring issue of last-minute guest cancellations and how it feels like disrespect—especially when even a casual, unpaid podcast takes behind-the-scenes effort and planning. The episode then pivots into heavier territory as the brothers address a tragic child murder case, triggering reflections on the ripple effects of trauma in first responder communities. Scott, drawing on his background in homicide, offers heartfelt praise for EMS and correctional officers—groups often overlooked despite their exposure to immense stress and suffering. From there, the tone lightens as Dan recounts a hilariously humbling road rage encounter at Costco and they reflect on everyday moments that shape emotional growth. Their observations on screen addiction in kids lead to admiration for a mom panning for gold with her sons—an impromptu example of parenting done right. They round out the conversation with personal updates: weddings, vacations, time in Niagara-on-the-Lake and Saskatchewan, gym gains, powwow experiences, and some memorable moments from the golf course—including coyotes, ducklings, and a viral video involving a former NHL player and a lake-side altercation.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

In this long-awaited return episode, Scott and Dan Jones sit down with Jared Zsombor—a long-time colleague and a uniquely experienced professional in death investigations. With a career that began in high school and spanned international war zones and transplant recovery, Jared’s story is anything but ordinary. Together, they reflect on shared experiences from their time as homicide detectives and dive deep into the world of forensic death investigation, the emotional toll of international work, and the human side of handling loss with dignity. Together, we explore: The emotional and psychological toll of working with death The invisible trauma of being the one who sees, reports, and translates death to the living The difference between the work of Medical Examiners vs. Coroners in Canada Why some scenes haunt us—and others, surprisingly, don't How shared grief and unexpected connections (like a family tissue donation story) can bring healing The importance of community and humor in high-trauma professions What happens when you finally step away from the work—and why that can be the hardest part If you've ever worked in high-intensity, frontline, or trauma-exposed professions—or love someone who has—this conversation will hit home. It’s about what we carry, what we bury, and what finally rises when the noise stops.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

This was a spectacular conversation with Colleen Mooney. Who if we had a sister she would be it. We could have chatted for at least 2 more hours but this 90 minutes was outstanding. We talked about wellness, competitive spirit, resilience and so much more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

This was an amazing conversation with two amazing women. We recorded this in season 3 but due to some technical issues had to wait until season 4 to release it. We spoke about mental health and policing, the benefits of equine therapy and so much more. We are excited to get this episode out.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

Colleen Rue, also known as the Voice of the Mountain, joined Scott Jones and guest co-host Kim Grykuliak. Colleen discussed her career in the legal system supporting victims and her personal athletic endurance journey. We spoke about experiences of 29029 Everesting from how she got involved with this amazing event, what she enjoys most as MC and Scott and Kim's perspective as participants. COLLEEN'S BIO (Emcee & Announcer Focus) Colleen Rue is a seasoned endurance athlete and dynamic media professional with a rich and varied career. She brings expertise and passion to her work, helping others achieve their goals and push their limits. Her unique skill set allows her to forge deep connections between people and brands, enhancing events and experiences with her engaging presence. Colleen’s ability to foster personal growth and build lasting bonds is at the heart of her work. Whether she’s motivating athletes to cross the finish line or captivating an audience with her words, she creates meaningful experiences that resonate long after the event is over. BIO NOTE As I mentioned, my original career was as a paralegal where I worked for small family law firms and large international firms: from family law to antitrust. I spent many years supporting Southern Utah's Guardian ad Litem, who represented abused and neglected children in the court system. I also served as the Victim Advocate for Iron County, Utah, USA working out of the Iron County Attorney's Office.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.

Scott and Dan were looked back on the podcast of the year and the year itself in their lives. Some laughs happened. Looking forward to season 4Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/just-us-on-justice-and-other-things--5542256/support.