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Leading with Faithfulness ft. Jody Franke | Ep. 223
May 14, 2026
48m 26s
When Leaders Need Care ft. Roger & Sarah Stanton | Ep. 222
Apr 9, 2026
54m 30s
The Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 2) | Ep. 221
Mar 19, 2026
23m 00s
The Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 1) | Ep. 220
Mar 12, 2026
26m 34s
Lead It Like You Own It ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 219
Feb 26, 2026
50m 52s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 5/14/26 | Leading with Faithfulness ft. Jody Franke | Ep. 223 | Brandon sits down with Jody Franke (Keystone Church, Keller, TX) to explore what it means to serve faithfully in ministry without letting ambition cloud our calling. Reminding us that true ministry begins, not with titles or positions, but with a simple willingness to help and serve wherever God places us. Visit leadingsecond.com to learn more. | 48m 26s | ||||||
| 4/9/26 | When Leaders Need Care ft. Roger & Sarah Stanton | Ep. 222✨ | leadershipmental health+4 | Roger StantonSarah Stanton | Leading Second | — | leadership caremental health+4 | — | 54m 30s | |
| 3/19/26 |  The Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 2) | Ep. 221✨ | leadershipsecond chair+3 | — | — | — | second chair leadershiptensions+3 | — | 23m 00s | |
| 3/12/26 |  The Tensions Every Second Chair Leader Will Face (Part 1) | Ep. 220✨ | leadershipsecond chair leaders+3 | — | Lead It Like You Own It | — | leadershipsecond chair+3 | — | 26m 34s | |
| 2/26/26 |  Lead It Like You Own It ft. Brandon Stewart | Ep. 219✨ | leadershipministry+3 | LindsayMatt Martin+1 | NorthRock ChurchHillsong Church+1 | San Antonio, TXToronto, Canada | leadershipministry+5 | — | 50m 52s | |
| 2/19/26 |  The Six Enemies of Ownership (Part 2) ft. L2 Coaching Team | Ep. 218✨ | ownershipleadership+3 | Travis MarshallJennifer Martin+1 | Christian World ChurchNorthRock Church+1 | Richardson, TXSan Antonio, TX+1 | ownershipleadership+4 | — | 32m 59s | |
| 2/12/26 |  The Six Enemies of Ownership (Part 1) ft. L2 Coaching Team | Ep. 217✨ | ownershipchurch culture+4 | Travis MarshallJennifer Martin+1 | Christian World ChurchNorthRock Church+1 | Richardson, TXSan Antonio, TX+1 | ownershipchurch+5 | — | 45m 02s | |
| 1/1/26 |  The Leader God Can Use ft. Dr. Christopher Palmer | Ep. 216✨ | leadershipcharacter+3 | Dr. Christopher Palmer | Southeastern University | Lakeland, FL | leadershipcharacter+5 | — | 37m 23s | |
| 12/4/25 |  Leading in Your Grace Zone ft. Julian Lowe | Ep. 215✨ | leadershipgrace zone+5 | Julian Lowe | CoastLife ChurchOasis Church | Venice, FLLos Angeles, CA | graceleadership+5 | — | 56m 07s | |
| 11/13/25 |  It Takes a Team ft. Kevin Gerald | Ep. 214✨ | teamingleadership+3 | Kevin Gerald | — | — | teamingleadership+4 | — | 45m 19s | |
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| 10/2/25 |  More than a Month ft. Leading Second Team | Ep. 213✨ | Pastor Appreciation Monthleadership+3 | Joseph KelleyJennifer Martin+1 | Discovery ChurchNorthRock Church+1 | Oklahoma, OKSan Antonio, TX+1 | Pastor Appreciation Monthleadership+4 | — | 1h 02m 24s | |
| 9/4/25 |  The Significance of the Second Chair ft. Charlotte Gambill | Ep. 212 | In this episode, Pastor Charlotte Gambill unpacks the privilege and responsibility of holding up your pastor’s arms, embracing unseen moments, and carrying vision with humility and maturity. If you serve in the second chair, this conversation will strengthen your perspective and remind you: second chair is not second class. | 45m 04s | ||||||
| 6/9/25 |  Lead It Like You Own It ft. Brandon Stewart | S8 Ep. 211 | Brandon and Leading Second bring some exciting announcements to the podcast. Join us for some behind-the-scenes fun. To be a part of the pre-sale for the book, visit: https://books.manuscripts.com/product/lead-it-like-you-own-it/ We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 26m 33s | ||||||
| 6/5/25 |  The Power & Presence of the Local Church ft. James Grout | S8 Ep. 210 | Brandon, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), sit down with Leading Second partner James Grout from OneChild. OneChild is a global community of child champions who partner with the local church to reach children in assistance-needed communities. Through initiatives like Hope Centers, we see how the local church becomes a beacon of light, offering not just physical support, but holistic development that nurtures the body, mind, and spirit. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 47m 43s | ||||||
| 5/29/25 |  Inside the Second Chair ft. James Fam | S8 Ep. 209 | This week, Brandon goes Inside the Second Chair with James Fam (Coastal Church, Vancouver, BC) to discover the mindsets, habits, and disciplines of great second chair leaders. Joined by Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK), they discuss how, through abiding, we find refreshment, clarity, and a deeper trust in God’s plan for our church and our individual roles within it. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 50m 59s | ||||||
| 5/22/25 |  Leading With Clarity ft. Jake Sweetman | S8 Ep. 208 | Brandon, along with Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK) and Jodi Cameron (Champions Centre, Tacoma, WA), welcomes Jake Sweetman (Cathedral, Los Angeles, CA) to help guide us on how to align our actions with God's purpose, highlighting that organizational structure and spirit work hand-in-hand, just as Paul teaches in Ephesians. As we dive into this discussion, we're prompted to ask: Are we creating environments that welcome both spiritual fervor and effective organization? How can we courageously step into the changes God is calling us to make? We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 43m 12s | ||||||
| 5/15/25 |  Unlocking Your Team's Potential ft. Alan Pastian | S8 Ep. 207 | Brandon, Dillon Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), and Alan Pastian (River Valley Church, Minneapolis, MN) discuss the power of self-awareness and its impact on our leadership journey. The parable of the talents, where faithful servants multiplied their resources, reminds us that we're called to be good stewards of the people God has entrusted to us. Are we truly seeing the potential in others as Jesus did? We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 38m 49s | ||||||
| 5/8/25 |  Level Up Your Leadership ft. Larry Brey | S8 Ep. 206 | In ministry, we often encounter the need to 'level up' our leadership and personal growth. Brandon, Jennifer Martin (NorthRock Church, San Antonio, TX), and Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK), sit down with Larry Brey (Elevation Church, Charlotte, NC) to discuss how skill development is crucial for an effective ministry. As we strive to level up, let's remember that our growth impacts not just us, but those we lead and influence. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 46m 06s | ||||||
| 5/1/25 |  Faithful Leadership in Challenging Times - Live from Team Church Canada | S8 Ep. 205 | This week, we explore the challenges and opportunities of leading in various contexts, including multi-site churches, family leadership transitions, and navigating cultural shifts. Brandon is joined by Tanisha Stromberg (Parallel Church, Okotoks, AB), Bryce Birmingham (Home Church, Calgary, AB), and Isaac Varty (Celebration Church, Edmonton, AB) for a conversation that emphasizes the importance of faithfulness, adaptability, and maintaining strong relationships in leadership roles. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 30m 19s | ||||||
| 4/24/25 |  Navigating Transition: From Corporate to Calling ft. Troy Pollock | S8 Ep. 204 | What really happens when you step away from a thriving corporate career to follow the call of ministry? In this episode, Brandon, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL), sit down with Troy Pollock - entrepreneur, former executive, and now location pastor - for a candid conversation about the transition from marketplace to ministry. Troy shares the surprising lessons, transferable skills, and hidden challenges that don’t make the highlight reel. If you’re standing at the crossroads of career and calling, or wondering what it means to truly live out your purpose in any environment, this episode is for you. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 42m 41s | ||||||
| 4/10/25 |  Carrying the Weight of Ministry for Your Pastors ft. Jason Parrish | S8 Ep. 203 | In ministry, each seat of leadership carries its own unique weight and perspective. Brandon, along with Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie (CoastLife Church, Venice, FL) and Jason Parrish (The Well, Salt Lake City, UT) explore the dynamics between first and second chair leaders in ministry. Just as a driver must be aware of multiple factors beyond what a passenger sees, those in the first chair often carry responsibilities and insights that may not be immediately apparent to those in the second chair. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 40m 47s | ||||||
| 4/3/25 |  Leading with Staying Power ft. Brandon Catoe | S8 Ep. 202 | Trusting God’s timing isn’t always easy, especially when our desire for security clashes with the call to obedience. But longevity in ministry is built on faithfulness over the long haul - choosing to stay the course even when the future feels uncertain. In this episode, Brandon sits down with Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK) and Brandon Catoe (Christ Fellowship Church, West Palm Beach, FL) to talk about the tension between waiting and stepping out in faith. When we learn to pause, pray, and trust, we often find that what God has ahead is bigger and better than we imagined. Faithfulness today leads to an impact that lasts a lifetime. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 41m 35s | ||||||
| 3/27/25 |  The Empowered Leader ft. Ken Hester | S8 Ep. 201 | In our leadership journeys, we often encounter moments of uncertainty about our roles and the extent of our empowerment. This conversation delves into the heart of these challenges, reminding us that clarity is indeed king. Brandon, Jodi Cameron (Champions Centre, Tacoma, WA), Joseph Kelley (Discovery Church, Oklahoma City, OK), and Ken Hester (LifeFamily Church, Austin, TX) remind us that, just as Jesus spent time with His disciples, teaching through proximity and example, we too can grow in our leadership through a process of continuous learning and development. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 34m 39s | ||||||
| 3/20/25 |  200th Episode Special | S8 Ep. 200 | This podcast episode celebrates the 200th episode of Leading Second, focusing on the importance and dignity of second chair leadership in ministry. Brandon, Tracy Keene from StrongPoint Church in Columbus, OH; Dillon and Leydanis Ritchie along with their pastor, Jason Warman, from CoastLife Church in Venice FL; and Dan Lord from Gracelife Chapel in St. Louis, MO; reflect on leading in an uncommon way from the second chair. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 32m 05s | ||||||
| 3/13/25 |  How to Handle Division & Strife on Your Team w/ L2 Team | S8 Ep. 199 | Brandon sits down with some of the Leading Second team in a discussion to explore the challenges of dealing with division and strife within church ministry teams. Dillon Ritchie (Coastlife Church, Venice, FL), Jennifer Martin (NorthRock Church, San Antonio, TX), and Dom Gianino (Elevation Church, Rock Hill, SC) emphasize the importance of addressing conflicts promptly, maintaining team alignment with the church’s vision, and the necessity of having difficult conversations to maintain a healthy team culture. We've created an Episode Guide for you to follow along with the conversation, find discussion questions to use with your team, and discover additional resources to help you take your second-chair leadership to the next-level. Download this free resource at leadingsecond.com/podcast | 48m 19s | ||||||
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