No One Has Ever Loved Me | The Love Story of Stephen Sondheim and Peter E. Jones: Act Two

About this episode

Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim in a reflective episode about their relationship.

In the second of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate story of how their love transformed both their lives. “I know the love – the deep, deep, deep love – that Steve had for PJ. He always said, ‘I’ll never be able to love, I’ll never be in love.’ And then it was unlocked, and he was in love.’ – Maria Friedman 30 years on, what can Maria and Mia’s observations tell PJ about the relationship? What was the incredible gesture made by Steve to PJ – which, at the time, PJ didn’t even realise was so special? And reflecting on a lifetime of love and friendship with Steve, what would PJ say to Steve now? “We had something that never went away. There were times when it made things complicated, but I learned so much from it.” – Peter E. Jones CHAPTERS: 00:00 Maria Friedman: ‘He was in love’ 02:08 Steve & PJ - The Story So Far ... 04:16 ‘Passion’ and ‘Peyton Place’ 11:15 Maria and Mia 17:56 ‘To PJ, With Love’ 20:06 'Just Another Love Story’ 31:00 ‘No One Has Ever Loved Me’ 34:26 ‘Sunset…

People in this episode

Host: Martin Milnes

Guest: Peter E. Jones

Topics covered

• love story
• relationship
• musical history
• personal reflection
• Sondheim's life
• friendship

Keywords

• Stephen Sondheim
• Peter E. Jones
• love
• musical theatre
• Maria Friedman
• friendship
• Peyton Place
• Passion

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: Peyton Place, Passion, Sunset Boulevard, Bluellow

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