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Sacramental Knowledge and Ontology of Education with Sam Burrows
May 4, 2026
1h 06m 48s
How Metaphors Reveal a Sacramental World
Apr 20, 2026
1h 00m 42s
EXPOSING Shincheonji and the Rise of Cults in New Zealand with Lindy
Apr 6, 2026
1h 12m 12s
Why Risky & Difficult Discipleship IS Discipleship with Fiona Rush
Mar 23, 2026
56m 38s
Māori Christianity vs Secular Society | Helping Christians Live in New Zealand with Malcolm Falloon
Mar 9, 2026
51m 58s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 5/4/26 | Sacramental Knowledge and Ontology of Education with Sam Burrows | In this conversation, Joey Millington and Jon Hoskin sit down with Sam Burrows to discuss what knowledge is and how teachers should approach knowledge within a Christian sacramentality of the world. 00:00 Introduction 01:32 A theological account of reality 5:52 Christian education needs to start with theological reality 10:47 T. F. Torrence and theological reality 20:50 Knowledge is a relationship 30:22 Knowledge is embodied 36:17 Is Distance Learning Problematic 50:00 Sam's Favourite "Maker... | 1h 06m 48s | ||||||
| 4/20/26 | How Metaphors Reveal a Sacramental World | In this conversation, Joey and Graeme discuss how metaphors help us encounter a sacramental world. All of language is metaphorical, and it is the epicentre of meaning. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries. | 1h 00m 42s | ||||||
| 4/6/26 | EXPOSING Shincheonji and the Rise of Cults in New Zealand with Lindy | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey speak with Lindy from the Olive Leaf Network about the rise of Shincheonji and World Mission Society Church of God in New Zealand. 00:00 Introduction 02:44 Shincheonji cult targets churches 05:09 Lindy's Story of Leaving PBCC 14:32 Defining "cult" and "high demand religious group" 26:49 Shincheonji's deceitful recruitment strategy 41:44 What motivates Shincheonji members to deceive? 44:04 Joey's encounter with WMSCG member 48:32 WMSCG have been gro... | 1h 12m 12s | ||||||
| 3/23/26 | Why Risky & Difficult Discipleship IS Discipleship with Fiona Rush | In this conversation, Joey sat down with Fiona Rush of C3 Church Auckland to talk about discipleship—how to make better disciples and the need for more difficulty, suffering, and risk for formation to happen. 00:00 Introduction 02:20 Fiona Rush's Story and Calling 13:50 Bryce Crawford reaches young people 17:00 Discipleship and Education Principles 32:45 Discipleship though suffering Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast... | 56m 38s | ||||||
| 3/9/26 | Māori Christianity vs Secular Society | Helping Christians Live in New Zealand with Malcolm Falloon | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey interview Dr. Malcolm Falloon as they discuss secular societies' misunderstanding of The Treaty of Waitangi and its Christian influence. Malcolm also helps Christians navigate the contentious Treaty space with practical and wise advice. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated org... | 51m 58s | ||||||
| 2/16/26 | Is your Church Distorting the Gospel? (Marshall McLuhan) | In this conversation, Graeme Flett and Joey Millington discuss the importance of Marshall McLuhan's statement, "the medium is the message," for churches and preaching the gospel. 00:00 Intro 02:22 Marshall McLuhan's scholarly influences and critics 12:54 Defining the "figure" and "ground" 18:19 Oral-Writing-Print 24:54 New tech amplifies and diminishes 26:49 Electricity to digital 29:41 How the gospel message changes through the medium 38:39 Critiquing digital church 48:39 Churches are... | 54m 59s | ||||||
| 2/2/26 | Alexander Schmemann DESTROYS secularism with an Eastern Orthodox sacramentality of the world | In this conversation, "For the Life of the World," by Easter Orthodox Priest, Alexander Schmemann, is examined for how secularism is a myth and the sacramentality of the world is a Christian truth and counter to secularism. This is likely the best conversation Graeme, Joey, and Jonathan ever had, and it might be their last. 00:00 Introduction 01:58 Who is Alexander Schmemann? 09:58 Liturgy shows us how to live in the world 18:05 How the symbolic world is real 24:53 how to participate rightly... | 1h 10m 01s | ||||||
| 1/19/26 | How Churches Should Disciple Emerging (young) Adults in 2026 with Sam Bloore | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Dr Sam Bloore who has completed considerable research in emerging adulthood. He has spoken widely on the topic to help churches disciple this group better. After graduating from medicine and bioethics at Otago University, Sam Bloore worked as a doctor for five years before a gradual career change saw him join the staff of his church and complete a Master of Arts in Pastoral Theology. Sam is passionate about the intersection of faith and cul... | 1h 14m 05s | ||||||
| 12/17/25 | Why 2025 Changed the Podcast (Lunch on The Way) | This is the last episode of 2025, taking a look back at why the podcast looked so different from the previous 2 years. I also venture into why Jonathan only appeared in 3 episodes and what 2026 might look like. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries. | 8m 24s | ||||||
| 12/8/25 | How "Seeker Sensitive" Churches are Rebuked by Lesslie Newbigin | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Dr Greg Liston to discuss Lesslie Newbigin's 5 big ways churches should approach cultural and be distinct through creating plausibility structures. Dr. Greg Liston is a Senior Lecturer at Laidlaw College specialising in ecclesiology and systematic theology. He was the Lead Pastor of Mt Albert Baptist Church in Auckland, New Zealand. He also holds two PhDs: one in theology and the other in physics. 00:00 Intro 01:56 Lesslie Newbigin vs rele... | 1h 05m 25s | ||||||
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| 11/24/25 | How Jesus Radically Transforms Wisdom (should we still "fear the Lord"??) | On this episode, Jonathan, Graeme, and Joey discuss what biblical wisdom is and how "the fear of the Lord" might not mean what we think. We disagree, agree, argue, meet in the middle, and much more. 00:00 Introduction 02:01 Answering listener's questions 10:07 Why "the fear of the Lord" and wisdom? 16:26 The OT and wisdom 26:31 How wisdom became incarnational 32:31 From fear to love in Christ 36:11 The tension of Holy-Love 40:11 A definition of wisdom 50:06 You can't live solely by principle... | 59m 47s | ||||||
| 11/10/25 | How Christians can Re-enchant their World through Iain McGilchrist, with Jonathan Hoskin. | In this episode, Jonathan Hoskin rejoins Graeme and Joey as they look at the physical world and rediscover a re-enchantment or sacramental nature to the world through visiting Iain McGilChrist's, "The Matter With Things" (2021). They explore how the Western world became flat and secular, who Iain McGilchrist is and what he gets right and wrong about the world and God, how the world is deeply sacramental and what that means, and much more. 00:00 Introduction 02:15 Jonathan is BACK! 06:10 The ... | 1h 04m 24s | ||||||
| 10/28/25 | What churches get wrong about business leadership and strategy with Louise Wernich | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Rev. Louise Wernich to talk about business strategy and leadership helping churches. Pastors have become increasingly suspicious of business practices distorting the purpose of the church, but Louise addresses how we can go too far in the other direction. Rev. Louise Wernich is an ordained minister in the Methodist Church of South Africa and has recently completed in MBA in New Zealand. She works at Laidlaw College within the post-graduate t... | 1h 09m 52s | ||||||
| 10/6/25 | The Unexpected Christian Origins of The Treaty of Waitangi with Sam Carpenter | In this conversation, Joey sits down with Treaty of Waitangi expert and scholar, Dr. Sam Carpenter. They talk about the Treaty of Waitangi history and how early missionaries were pivotal in its construction, translation, and acceptance. They also discuss how the current discourse around the Treaty needs a biblical worldview to be interpreted correctly. Sam teaches into Laidlaw’s Church History courses with a specialist focus on New Zealand religious and political history. He leads Te Rongopa... | 1h 14m 26s | ||||||
| 9/22/25 | Solving Pentecostalism's PR Problem (you might change denominations) with Maja Whitaker | In this episode, Graeme and Joey interview Dr. Maja Whitaker about Pentecostalism—the good, great, and not so great. We look at what make Pentecostal churches tick, like their unique take on mission, their need to be culturally relevant, and their obsession with pragmatism and why they have a PR problem. Dr. Maja Whitaker is the Academic Dean at Laidlaw College; she oversees all programme development and delivery and contributes to the development and outworking of College strategy, with a f... | 54m 44s | ||||||
| 9/8/25 | Sarah Penwarden | Why your experience of God & life matters, overcoming your past, embracing stories | In this episode, Graeme and Joey sit down with Rev. Dr. Sarah Penwarden to discuss why our experience matters for theology and understanding God, why emotions matters, how to integrate experience and faith, how stories help us creating meaning, and why people receive counselling. Sarah Penwarden (Pākehā) has a doctorate in counselling, is a practicing counsellor, supervisor, and an Anglican priest. She teaches in the School of Theology (Laidlaw College) on a part-time basis. Her academic int... | 58m 32s | ||||||
| 8/19/25 | How will AI shape Churches, Christians, and Society | On this conversation, Graeme and Joey discuss 4 ways AI will change churches, Christians, and society. They don't predict the future as much as explain how the future might play out as AI in adopted by society and churches and people grapple with what it means to be human. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated orga... | 55m 14s | ||||||
| 8/4/25 | Rebroadcast | Pastoral Identity Crisis, Trends, and Insights with Dr. Karen Kemp | This is a rebroadcasted episode because it's worth posting again. This conversation with Dr. Karen Kemp about pastoral leadership, trends, and identity is still relevant, even though it was originally published 2 years ago! It's worth a full listen. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries. | 1h 02m 46s | ||||||
| 7/7/25 | BONUS Ep | The 4 Essential Elements to being FULLY Human, a conversation about a conversation | This is a bonus episode that was original recorded in July of 2024 as Jonathan, Graeme, and Joey prepared to lead a discussion in Tauranga on what it means to be fully human and how churches/pastor can help with that. 00:00 Teaser 02:12 Explaining on trip to Tauranga 04:55 Efficient causality vs being human 07:35 Schedule of event and questions to consider 09:30 Why collective wisdom matters 10:45 Importance of group dynamics 12:45 Why theological-provocation matters 16:40 Stories make us hu... | 47m 02s | ||||||
| 6/23/25 | Dan Sheed | Drift No More, Praying as Invitational Posture, Central Vineyard Church | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Ps. Dan Sheed of Central Vineyard Church, Auckland. They discuss prayer as posture and invitation, Dan's book "Drift No More," and Dan's story of entering ministry and planting Central Vineyard. Dan Sheed is the founding co-leader of Central Vineyard Church in Tāmaki Makaurau, Auckland. The son of pastors, he was raised in the Vineyard Church movement, and has been on the journey with Christ as a pastor himself for many years. He planted Cen... | 1h 17m 35s | ||||||
| 6/9/25 | Sam Burrows | Why Christianity is growing, prophetic imagination, meaning is back | In this episode, Graeme and Joey have a conversation with Sam Burrows about how meaning is back in the West, how the cultural left helped Christianity, the growing influence of the right in politics, what biblical critical theory is, and much more! Makerspace Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/1DklD6kT4wEWUaF64y8pRh Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect ... | 54m 57s | ||||||
| 5/26/25 | The Tyranny of Metrics, How to Measure Spiritual Growth, We Focus on What We Measure | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey discuss how there are many things we cannot quantifiably measure in the church and that we need to use judgement when consulting numbers. Much of their think is derived from "The Tyranny of Metrics" by Jerry Muller. 00:00 Teaser 02:20 Introduction 4:00 Gen Z Christians are Growing | Bible Society UK 18:10 Political Will is Gone 20:00 The Tyranny of Metrics 24:50 Growth through Proximity to Christ 28:00 Tell Stories not Measure Stories 30:00 What we easil... | 57m 10s | ||||||
| 5/12/25 | Misunderstanding church & spiritual growth, you are a priest, people knowing you're Christian | In this conversation, Graeme and Joey clarify and elaborate on their conversation with Andrew Root. The conversation delves into the role of Christians in society, emphasizing the importance of identifying oneself as a Christian in various settings. Joey and Graeme discuss the concept of being a "royal priesthood," traversing two worlds, and the need for Christians to be visible and present in their communities. They explore the idea of evangelism as consolation, particularly in moments of de... | 57m 46s | ||||||
| 4/28/25 | Andrew Root | Stabilising Discipleship and Churches, Prayer as Key Competency, Despair & Evangelism | In this episode, Graeme and Joey have a brilliant conversation with Dr Andrew Root as they discuss a humanising approach to evangelism, the digital space and discipleship, what the key competency of a pastor should be, growth as modernity's stabiliser, and much more! Andrew Root, PhD (Princeton Theological Seminary) is the Carrie Olson Baalson Professor of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary. He is most recently the author of Evangelism in an Age of Despair and the six volume Minist... | 1h 17m 06s | ||||||
| 4/14/25 | Rev. Frank Ritchie | People Want Irrelevant Churches, Rediscovering Tradition, Culture and Media | In this episode of Lunch on The Way, Rev. Frank Ritchie discusses how places and spaces of worship hold our spirituality when we can't muster it up, his various experiences with different religions and expressions of the Christian faith, how and why Holy Communion is so important for the church, why wearing a clerical collar matters for pastors, how the media are open to Christianity, and why irrelevant churches are paradoxically relevant. Frank is an ordained minister in the Wesleyan Method... | 1h 00m 33s | ||||||
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