Making Chips Podcast for Manufacturing Leaders

Everybody in manufacturing knows the skills gap is real. Far fewer people are doing anything about it. That tension runs through this entire conversation, and it's why we're glad to have Kyra Tillman back on the show as part of our workforce development series. Kyra runs BTM Industries, a small job shop in Woodstock, Illinois, and she's a driving force behind the Manufacturing Pathways Consortium, a group of more than a hundred McHenry County manufacturers, every local high school, and dozens of community partners who decided to grow their own talent instead of fighting over the same shrinking pool. The numbers back it up. This year 186 students applied for the summer internship program and 85 got placed, with grant funding covering 85 percent of their wages. We get into the parts most people skip. How do you actually build an internship that works when your team is already slammed? Why do so many shops still say they don't have time for an inexperienced kid? And how did this group push back on a new Illinois foreign language requirement that would have gutted high school manufacturing programs, and win? There's a bigger idea underneath all of it. The shortage isn't only a skills gap, it's an opportunity gap. Most students have no idea these careers exist, and the fix isn't complicated. Open your doors, bring kids in, and let them try the work. Whether you run a shop, sit on a school board, or just want to see your community thrive, this one's a blueprint you can copy. What's Covered in this Episode (0:00) Why workforce development gets its own series, and welcoming Kyra back (1:56) Kyra's path to owning BTM Industries, a third-generation Woodstock job shop (4:13) MPC: 100+ manufacturers, every local high school, one focus: the talent pipeline (5:59) Why it works: stop playing the victim and do something about it (8:48) Inside the summer internship program: 186 applied, only 85 placed (10:53) Building a real intern plan instead of winging it (15:16) It's a manufacturing experience, not a polished college internship (16:15) CLA: helping manufacturers find millions in savings and revenue (17:23) Nick's intern Peter and the value of learning what you don't want (20:00) Why this program is oversubscribed when others can't fill seats (22:40) The funding model: grants cover 85 percent of intern wages (25:16) Saving CTE programs from Illinois's new foreign language requirement (27:45) IMTS Job Shops Workshop and Networking Reception, September 15 (28:39) Putting machined parts on guidance counselors' desks (32:46) Connecting with students who don't yet know what they like (35:00) It's an opportunity gap as much as a skills gap, so open your doors (36:42) Scaling means hiring beyond the shop floor, from coders to accountants (40:09) Why we love the quality of SMW Autoblok workholding (41:36) The results so far: 400+ interns, 46 now working in manufacturing (44:00) Help solve the problem: Let's get more manufacturers involved (47:15) How to replicate this: start with your local schools (49:30) Summer events, the Rockford party, and an IMTS kickoff Resources Mentioned Manufacturing Pathways Consortium CLA IMTS SMW Autoblok Connect with Kyra Tillman Manufacturing Pathways Consortium BTM Industries Connect with MakingChips Website: https://www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Some shop owners are born into machining. Others stumble into it through YouTube, side jobs, and a little bit of "sure, I think we can fit that D11 dozer cylinder on the mill." Leighton Hill's story has a little bit of all of it. In this episode of MakingChips, we continue our Gen CNC series with Leighton Hill of Hillco, a young shop owner from the Kansas City area who grew up around manual machines, learned CNC through hands-on experimentation, and is now building a real business from nights, weekends, Facebook groups, local relationships, and whatever work comes through the door. Leighton shares how his dad's hobby shop sparked his interest in machining, why he originally had no interest in CNC, and how a used Hurco mill changed the direction of his life. From a cramped two-car garage to a 40x60 shop, he's been slowly turning a family passion into a serious business opportunity. We dig into the realities of starting small: pricing jobs without overcomplicating it, finding work through word of mouth, learning from YouTube, quoting overflow work, considering job boards, and deciding when it makes sense to invest in new equipment. Leighton also talks about his goal of going full-time, possibly moving into a larger shared shop, and eventually building a small team around production and aerospace work. Because if you're not learning, quoting, building relationships, and making chips, you're not making money. Segments (0:00) How a Facebook machinist group unexpectedly led to a real customer (0:35) Introducing Leighton Hill of Hillco and the Gen CNC series (2:16) Leighton's journey from manual machining to learning CNC (7:02) Starting Hillco as a side business and building momentum (8:55) Expanding into job shop work and growing into a 40x60 shop (10:20) Why we love the quality of SMW Autoblok's workholding (11:06) Hillco's current machine lineup and capabilities (13:10) Learning machining through YouTube, mentors, and hands-on experience (16:40) Finding early work through word of mouth, neighbors, and Facebook groups (18:19) Considering job boards and overflow work as a learning opportunity (21:13) How Leighton approaches pricing, quoting, and simple job estimating (23:46) Exploring AI-assisted quoting and CAM tools like Toolpath (29:02) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (30:34) Starting the LLC with low overhead and support from family (32:12) Thinking through ROI before investing in a CNC lathe (33:26) Leighton's goal to take Hillco full-time within the next year (36:35) Taking on any work early, then learning what to specialize in (37:27) Why walk-in repair work can lead to long-term production customers (41:54) Get a free report of sales opportunities in your area from FacturMFG.com/chips (43:00) Advice for young machinists who want to get started (44:55) Leighton's five-to-ten-year vision for Hillco (47:19) Building credibility with a website, Google profile, and customer reviews Resources mentioned on this episode Why we love the quality of SMW Autoblok's workholding Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) Get a free report of sales opportunities in your area from FacturMFG.com/chips TITANS of CNC Toolpath CloudNC Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Recorded live from the Toolpath Machining Summit at Mammoth Mountain, this episode of MakingChips explores what happens when software thinking collides with modern manufacturing. We sat down with SendCutSend founder Jim Belosic and CNC leader Phil Linscheid for a conversation about speed, automation, growth, and the changing realities of manufacturing in America. What started as frustration sourcing one-off sheet metal parts has evolved into one of the industry's most talked-about manufacturing companies. Today, SendCutSend is processing tens of thousands of orders every month across multiple facilities, all while challenging long-standing assumptions around quoting, inventory, lead times, staffing, and scalability. But underneath the growth is something even more interesting: a company culture built around adaptability, curiosity, and a willingness to rethink everything. Throughout the episode, we dig into how SendCutSend approaches manufacturing differently. Instead of trying to be everything to everyone, they've focused on simplifying processes, automating aggressively, and creating systems that remove friction for customers. Jim and Phil explain why many traditional machine shop habits no longer make sense at scale, and why the future may belong to manufacturers who are willing to specialize, collaborate, and move faster. We also explore what this shift means for the broader manufacturing industry. Are companies like SendCutSend replacing traditional shops, or creating opportunities for them to evolve into something more specialized and valuable? From hiring philosophies and leadership lessons to AI, automation, and "Home Depot for manufacturing," this conversation challenges the industry to think differently about where manufacturing is headed next. Segments (0:00) Recording live from the Toolpath Machining Summit at Mammoth Mountain (0:49) Why intentional industry events create deeper manufacturing conversations (2:38) Introducing SendCutSend and the company's rapid growth trajectory (4:01) The original problem that inspired the creation of SendCutSend (5:28) Early mistakes, learning manufacturing from scratch, and adapting quickly (10:15) Scaling to hundreds of employees, multiple facilities, and massive order volume (12:25) Why SendCutSend focuses on creating talent instead of recruiting it (14:07) Hiring for enthusiasm, grit, and culture fit over manufacturing experience (16:41) Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding products (17:54) Can outsiders successfully buy and grow manufacturing companies? (19:51) Why great machinists don't always become great managers (23:13) Building career paths for both technical experts and people leaders (24:47) How complementary leadership styles drive growth and innovation (28:25) Get a free report of sales opportunities in your area from FacturMFG.com/chips (29:30) Breaking down the SendCutSend workflow from upload to shipped part (33:35) Simplifying manufacturing to improve speed, accessibility, and affordability (35:40) Why customer experience became SendCutSend's biggest growth engine (37:44) Inventory strategy, automation, and scheduling at scale (41:52) Standardized tooling, machine utilization, and operational discipline (48:51) Why culture is the foundation behind the company's success (50:21) Check out the Hennig Workflow Automated Pallet delivery solution (51:14) The vision for becoming a "Home Depot for manufacturing" (53:30) How traditional machine shops can evolve alongside industry disruption (58:24) Jim's advice for smaller shops? Say "no" more often - get a longer clip of this (1:01:07)) Why AI and manufacturing disruption are impossible to ignore (1:04:57) Leadership lessons on decision-making, pivots, and learning quickly (1:07:30) Protecting culture while scaling at hyper-growth speed Resources mentioned on this episode SendCutSend Connect with Jim on LinkedIn Connect with Phil on LinkedIn Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding products Get a free report of sales opportunities in your area from FacturMFG.com/chips Check out the Hennig Workflow Automated Pallet delivery solution Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

What if the future of your machine shop isn't just faster spindles or more automation—but an entirely different way of making parts? In this episode of MakingChips: Generation CNC, we sit down with David Bamforth of Renscott Manufacturing, a young entrepreneur who's not just building a shop—he's redefining what one can be. By combining CNC machining with metal additive manufacturing, David has positioned his company at the intersection of two worlds, creating a powerful competitive edge in aerospace, defense, and spaceflight. But this didn't start with a master plan. Like many entrepreneurs, David began with curiosity, a willingness to take risks, and a mindset of figuring things out as he went. Over time, that evolved into something much more intentional: a clear strategy to move beyond being "just another job shop" and instead own the full lifecycle of complex parts—from printed blank to finished, mission-critical component. What makes this approach so compelling is the problem it solves. Many companies can print parts. Many shops can machine them. But very few can do both well. Even fewer understand how to bridge the gap between the two. That's where Renscott has carved out its niche, simplifying supply chains, improving reliability, and creating real value for customers operating at the cutting edge. If you've been thinking about how to differentiate your shop—or where the industry is heading next—this episode offers a clear look at why additive manufacturing isn't just a trend. For shops willing to embrace it, it's a strategic advantage. Segments (0:00) Light banter, missing co-host, and intro to the Gen CNC series (1:32) Meet David Bamforth: From automotive work to aerospace, spaceflight, and defense (4:46) Early curiosity: how tinkering and "How It's Made" shaped his path (6:04) Engineering school, co-ops, and exposure to large-scale manufacturing (8:32) Buying the first Haas machine and launching the business with no roadmap (9:49) Why we love Paperless Parts for your quoting workflow (11:01) The "build it and they will come" philosophy—and learning the hard way (13:55) Self-funding the business, family support, and building a leadership team (16:49) The cool part of the Co-op that David participated in (18:59) What formal manufacturing education did (and didn't) teach (21:36) How additive manufacturing became a strategic differentiator (27:13) Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding (27:56) The long-term vision: becoming additive-first with machining support (30:22) Real-world applications like internal cooling channels and complex geometries (32:34) Building the additive business like a startup within the company (34:25) Comparing labor, cost, and efficiency: additive vs. subtractive (38:15) Automation strategy across five-axis machining and robotics (40:02) Running an advanced shop as a young entrepreneur (41:23) Hiring ahead of growth and building a 5-year plan (42:41) Why you need to check out the Hennig WorkFlow (43:35) Overcoming (or avoiding) the "young founder" credibility challenge (46:01) Branding, culture, and connecting with modern manufacturing customers (49:03) Advice for young entrepreneurs: experience, cash, and patience (51:44) The importance of networking and building industry relationships Resources mentioned on this episode Rennscot MFG Connect with David Bamforth on LinkedIn Why we love Paperless Parts for your quoting workflow Why we love SMW Autoblok for workholding Why you need to check out the Hennig WorkFlow NYC CNC John Grimsmo Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Sometimes the path into manufacturing isn't a straight line but more like a ricochet. That's exactly how Mark Christopher's journey began. From nearly flunking out of college to becoming a key voice at DN Solutions, Mark's story is a testament to what happens when curiosity meets opportunity. What started as a fallback plan quickly evolved into a 30-year career built on solving problems, challenging assumptions, and helping shops unlock their full potential. In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with Mark to explore not just where he's been—but what he's seen. And when you've walked into shops from small mom-and-pop operations to aerospace giants, you start to notice patterns. One of the biggest? The shops that win aren't just buying machines—they're buying capability, flexibility, and time. The conversation quickly shifts into one of the most important topics in modern manufacturing: automation. Not the buzzword version, but the real, boots-on-the-ground reality. The kind that helps shops run lights out, say "yes" to jobs they used to turn down, and turn spindle time into a competitive weapon. Mark breaks down how shops can justify the leap, avoid costly mistakes, and think differently about ROI. But this isn't just about machines—it's about people. The episode highlights a powerful theme: untapped potential. Whether it's underutilized equipment or team members ready to level up, the opportunity is everywhere. The challenge is having the vision—and sometimes the courage—to act on it. If you've ever wondered whether automation is worth it, when to make the leap, or how to build a shop that's ready for what's next… this episode delivers. Because at the end of the day, if your machines—and your people—aren't being fully utilized, you're leaving opportunity on the table. Segments (0:00) How machinists unknowingly shaped your childhood (1:23) Mark's story: From "voluntold" career moves to finding passion in manufacturing (7:41) Transition into the machine tool world and exposure to shops across North America (10:06) Head to the DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event (11:09) Industry outlook: strong demand, workforce challenges, and the rise of automation (13:08) Why shops hesitate on automation—and how to properly evaluate ROI (18:36) Real-world example of using automation to unlock high-margin, expedited work (21:33) Why we love the quality of SMW Autoblok workholding (22:20) Rethinking the traditional path: starting with advanced machines and automation (25:20) Case study: how 5-axis and automation dramatically increase capability (30:11) Paperless Parts: Scaling challenges and the importance of systems over brute force execution (37:30) Common mistakes when investing in automation and how to avoid them (40:20) Understanding true utilization and maximizing machine uptime (42:03) Automation as a tool to upskill and empower employees—not replace them (47:30) Check out the Hennig WorkFlow automation system so your shop never stops (48:20) Growing trend toward automation-ready machines and modular shop growth Resources mentioned on this episode DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event Why we love the quality of SMW Autoblok workholding Request a demo from Paperless Parts to see how they can help you scale Jason@PaperlessParts.com Check out the Hennig WorkFlow automation system so your shop never stops Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

What does the next generation of manufacturing ownership really look like? In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with Mason Nicholas, a 21-year-old shop owner who's building his business one machine, one customer, and one sleepless night at a time. His journey didn't start with a formal apprenticeship or engineering degree. It started with motorcycles, model cars, a 3D printer, and a curiosity about how things are made. Mason walks through the unconventional path that led him into machining, from teaching himself CAD during COVID to interning in multiple shops while still in high school. Along the way, he learned programming, fixturing, production workflows, and the realities of shop life. That hands-on exposure eventually turned into entrepreneurial ambition, and before long he was running parts at night on a CNC knee mill, chasing work, and learning the business the hard way. The conversation dives deep into the realities of starting a shop young. Mason shares how he bootstrapped his first Haas, balanced customer work with learning, and navigated common early mistakes like chasing low-margin work and trying to be everything to everyone. The hosts also unpack the importance of niching down, building cash reserves, and choosing a long-term strategy instead of chasing short-term revenue. Looking ahead, Mason outlines his vision for building a specialized aerospace and defense shop, investing in five-axis capability, and eventually creating a talent pipeline to bring new people into manufacturing. It's an honest conversation about ambition, discipline, and what it takes to turn passion into a sustainable manufacturing business. Segments (0:00) Mason Nicholas and his unconventional path into manufacturing (3:54) Learning machining through high school programs and internships (6:52) Running parts at night, landing his first customers, and early job costing mistakes (9:57) Buying his first Haas and officially launching the business (11:33) Leaving his job and committing to entrepreneurship (14:45) Check out the Hennig WorkFlow Automated Pallet Delivery System (15:35) What his one-man shop looks like today (19:19) First IMTS experience and seeing the industry's scale (20:34) Head to the DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event (21:33) Bootstrapping growth and reinvesting into tooling and equipment (23:14) Deciding when to buy the next machine (25:09) Paperless Parts is built for shops preparing for CMMC Level II (26:58) One-man shop realities and five-year growth vision (29:10) Creating a future talent pipeline and second shop concept (31:31) Technology, certifications, and preparing for aerospace work (33:16) Lights-out machining and maximizing spindle uptime (36:44) Cash flow discipline and managing capital-intensive growth (42:49) Advice for new shop owners on niching down Resources mentioned on this episode Cherry Creek Innovation Campus Hennig WorkFlow Automated Pallet Delivery System Head to the DN Solutions Manufacturing Without Limits event Verdant Commercial Capital Paperless Parts is built for shops preparing for CMMC Level II Nathan Bourgeois - Owner at Ouroboros Space and Defense Mace MFG Connect with Mason on LinkedIn Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

What happens when a childhood obsession with trains turns into a manufacturing business? In this episode of MakingChips Generation CNC, we sit down with Chris Huffman, a young shop owner who launched Huffman Machining Solutions at just 21 years old. Now 26, Chris is building his business one machine, one customer, and one calculated risk at a time. Chris didn't grow up in a machining family, and he didn't follow the traditional path into manufacturing. Instead, his curiosity started with steam locomotives and model trains. That fascination led him to learn how parts were made, which eventually pulled him into machining. Along the way, he realized he didn't just love trains. He loved the process of turning raw material into precision components. That passion evolved into opportunity. Requests for custom parts began to pile up, and Chris saw a path forward. With minimal overhead, a steady job at a community college, and a willingness to take calculated risks, he bought his first machine, found a small space, and started building his shop from the ground up. In this conversation, Chris shares the realities of starting young. He talks through financing equipment, navigating insurance challenges, buying used machines, and learning business skills on the fly. He also opens up about the mental side of entrepreneurship, including the pressure of hiring a first employee and the responsibility that comes with building something bigger than yourself. This episode is a great look at what the next generation of manufacturing founders actually looks like. It's not about overnight success. It's about passion, persistence, and slowly laying the track to build a sustainable machine shop. Segments (0:00) Introduction to Chris Huffman and the Generation CNC young founder series (1:06) Starting a machine shop at 21 and the story behind Huffman Machining Solutions (4:30) From model trains to machining and discovering a passion for manufacturing (9:18) Why you need to come see us at IMTS 2026! (11:00) Desire to work on historic locomotives and falling in love with machining itself (14:10) Demand for parts lead to launching the business in 2022 (16:16) Transitioning from teaching machining to running a shop full-time (19:30) Financing the first machine and lessons learned about tooling costs (22:02) Buying a used Mazak and costly surprises after purchase (25:54) Adding additional machines and building capability as a one-man shop (28:43) Paperless Parts: CMMC compliant and secure option for estimating and quoting (29:55) The "#ThankAMachinist" mindset and educating others about manufacturing (33:20) Hiring plans, apprenticeships, and outgrowing the current space (37:13) The fear and responsibility of hiring the first employee (38:40) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (39:08) Learning the business side: scheduling, marketing, and sales (41:39) Long-term goals including ISO certification and ERP implementation (43:15) Letting go of machining work to grow the business (45:21) Opportunity to acquire retiring shop owners' businesses (46:50) Hosts' reflections on passion-driven paths into manufacturing Resources mentioned on this episode IMTS 2026: https://www.imts.com/ Paperless Parts: https://www.paperlessparts.com/ Coffey Machining Group: https://coffeymg.com/ The E-Myth Revisited: https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280 Huffman Machining Solutions: https://huffmanmachining.com/ Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-huffman-93b69423b/ Chris@HuffmanMachining.com

Automation and lights-out manufacturing are often framed as the future of machining, but for many shops that future is already here. In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with longtime industry leader Keith Grano to talk about what lights-out machining actually looks like in practice. Drawing on years of experience working with manufacturers, Keith explains how automation, machine monitoring, and disciplined processes allow shops to run more efficiently and extend production beyond the traditional workday. Lights-out machining isn't about replacing people. It's about using technology to make better use of the time, talent, and equipment already inside a shop. When done well, it increases capacity, improves consistency, and helps manufacturers grow even when skilled labor is limited. Keith walks through the practical considerations behind unattended production, including machine reliability, process stability, tooling strategy, and the systems required to keep parts running when no one is standing at the control. Along the way, we explore why many shops struggle to implement automation and why incremental steps often work better than trying to jump straight into fully autonomous production. This conversation also connects to a theme we've been exploring across our Generation CNC series: the next generation of manufacturing leaders is entering an industry where automation and digital systems are becoming foundational capabilities. Understanding how lights-out machining works, and when it makes sense, will shape how the next generation builds and scales their shops. Segments (1:28) Introducing Keith Grano and his background in manufacturing automation (3:06) What "lights-out machining" actually means in a modern shop (7:23) Why automation is about maximizing equipment and people, not replacing labor (12:09) The operational discipline required to run machines unattended (14:52) How ProShop ERP can help you achieve on-time delivery (20:11) Why process stability matters more than the machine itself (25:08) Tooling strategy, monitoring, and the systems that support unattended production (29:38) If you want the speed of AI without the risk, go to PaperlessParts.com (30:53) The mindset you need to have to implement lights-out machining (33:13) Where do you start with lights out automation? (40:08) How to adjust your mindset to allow for automation (46:33) How machine monitoring and data change decision-making on the shop floor (51:27) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (51:58) The most affordable way to automate a five-axis setup (58:54) How state, local, and federal grants can help cover purchases (1:00:47) How to determine what to charge for a machine's time Resources mentioned on this episode Visit proshoperp.com/95 to get a free guide to achieve on-time delivery If you want the speed of AI without the risk, go to PaperlessParts.com Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) ROI Calculator Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

In this episode of MakingChips, we continue our young founders series with a story that challenges the traditional growth narrative in manufacturing. At just 26, Walter Peters is balancing a full-time job at a defense-focused shop with building MW Machine Co. from a modest 500-square-foot industrial unit. Walter didn't start with a big loan or a brand-new machine. He bought a used CNC mill for $6,500, kept overhead intentionally low, and focused on getting good at both machining and business fundamentals. But what makes this conversation especially interesting isn't just how he started. It's how he defines success. Walter isn't chasing 100 spindles or a massive payroll. He's building toward a highly automated, small-footprint, lifestyle-oriented shop that gives him time freedom and intellectual stimulation without the burden of heavy overhead or HR complexity. We talk about finding work with no formal sales plan, leveraging Google reviews, balancing a day job while building a business, using AI as a thinking partner, and why low stress starts with low fixed costs. This episode is a grounded, practical look at modern entrepreneurship in manufacturing — especially for the next generation. Segments (0:00) Introducing Walter Peters and MW Machine C. (2:31) Walter's unconventional path from video production to woodworking to machining (6:13) Leaving cabinet work and moving toward CNC-focused fabrication (8:42) Meet us at MFG Meeting 2026 (9:32) Buying his first CNC mill and signing a lease in late 2023 (11:21) Landing early work through cold calls and a serendipitous utility customer (14:31) The reality of entrepreneurship: quoting, purchasing, and doing the "business stuff" (16:03) Working full-time while building MW Machine Co. (19:31) The current shop setup: one CNC mill, manual lathe, TIG welder, 500 sq. ft. space (20:18) Bootstrapping with less than $30,000 and reaching profitability in year two (22:52) Managing cash flow and keeping monthly overhead intentionally low (23:57) His long-term plan to go full-time and why he's staying employed for now (25:25) His long-term vision: a small, automated shop connected to his home (26:43) Time freedom, automation, and the Lights Out mindset (30:20) The goal of owning the building and eliminating rent as overhead (31:45) Get a free report about the opportunities available to you at Facturmfg.com/chips (32:48) Growing up around content creation and craftsmanship with his father (37:43) Using ChatGPT and AI tools to think through quoting and problem-solving (41:18) Generating work through Google reviews and inbound RFQs (46:12) Why low overhead and small, shippable parts create leverage (46:56) Need workholding? Check out the SMW Autoblok catalog Resources mentioned on this episode Walter Peters MW Machine Co. Meet us at MFG Meeting 2026 Get a free report about the opportunities available to you at Facturmfg.com/chips Need workholding? Check out the SMW Autoblok catalog The Long View Podcast Longview Woodworking Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Recorded live from McCormick Place in Chicago, this episode marks the official kickoff of the MakingChips journey toward IMTS 2026. With nine months to go, we sit down with two leaders helping shape the show itself: Michelle Edmondson, Vice President of Exhibitions for IMTS, and Bonnie Gurney, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Industry Relations. What unfolds is a behind-the-scenes look at how the largest manufacturing technology show in North America is built — from campaign strategy and theme development to visitor planning, education tracks, emerging technologies, and student engagement. This year's theme, "Achieve the Impossible," paired with the campaign message around "Six Days," reflects what IMTS is really about: momentum. It's not just about buying a machine this year. It's about seeing where the industry is heading five years from now. We explore how exhibitors should define ROI, why attendees need a strategy before walking the floor, what's new in 2026 (including the Industrial AI Arena and the 20th anniversary of the Emerging Technology Center), and how young people — including our own kids — can get plugged into manufacturing through Smartforce and the Student Summit. Whether you're an exhibitor, an attendee, or still on the fence, this episode is a practical roadmap for how to get the most out of IMTS — and why it matters more than ever in today's manufacturing climate. Segments (0:00) Live from Chicago: Exhibitor Workshop energy and early IMTS planning (2:17) Hennig's evolving booth strategy and bringing real machines to the floor (3:43) Why you need to be at the MFG Meeting 2026 (4:38) Introducing Michelle Edmondson and Bonnie Gurney from IMTS (7:04) The power of long-term partnerships and IMTS' impact on careers (8:58) Defining ROI for exhibitors: Setting measurable goals before the show begins (11:16) Planning IMTS as an attendee: short-term shopping list vs. long-term vision (13:21) IMTS 2026 theme: "Achieve the Impossible" and the Six Days campaign (14:52) How real visitors shape the ad campaign and messaging (16:07) Student Summit and engaging the next generation (17:40) Family business, succession, and getting kids into manufacturing (21:55) Common exhibitor mistakes — territory gatekeeping and lost opportunities (23:48) Factur: Building consistent pipeline systems for manufacturers (24:54) Behind the scenes: how IMTS develops its theme and campaign strategy (29:25) 20th anniversary of the Emerging Technology Center (30:04) Launch of the new Industrial AI Arena and AI conference (30:59) Education tracks, co-located conferences, and specialized programming (33:56) MakingChips live podcast studio plans at IMTS 2026 (35:47) Rockford IMTS summer party and nonprofit partnership (37:35) Smartforce, Student Summit, and how schools can get involved (39:12) What visitors should be doing right now to prepare (41:19) Housing deadlines and avoiding scam hotel vendors (43:24) Hire MFG Leaders: Recruiting leaders who understand manufacturing (43:52) Will IMTS 2026 be the best show ever? Why optimism is high (45:53) Young founders in manufacturing and the entrepreneurship tailwind Resources mentioned on this episode Connect with Michelle Edmondson Connect with Bonnie Gurney IMTS 2026 IMTS Smartforce Student Summit IMTS Show Planner USMTO Report Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Starting a machine shop doesn't always begin with a perfectly laid business plan, a polished facility, or years of hands-on experience. Sometimes it starts in a garage, with curiosity, YouTube videos, and a willingness to figure things out one mistake at a time. In this episode of MakingChips, we sit down with brothers James and Sean Cerven to talk about how they built their shop from the ground up during COVID. With backgrounds in mechanical engineering but almost no hands-on machining experience, they bought a small CNC, welded their own enclosure, and decided early on to take the business seriously, even when the operation itself was still small. Their story is a candid look at starting early and learning fast. The Cerven brothers share how financing machines, running jobs out of a garage, hiring quality before machinists, and investing in systems ahead of schedule helped them survive the most fragile years of the business. Along the way, we talk about learning through online communities, when advice helps and when it hurts, why gut instinct still matters even when mentors are involved, and how discipline, systems, and credibility can allow a very small team to punch far above its weight. If you're thinking about starting a shop, already in the early stages of ownership, or curious how the next generation is approaching manufacturing, this conversation offers an honest, unfiltered look at what building a CNC business actually takes. Segments (0:00) Kicking off the conversation and why this story stood out (2:00) Engineering backgrounds, COVID lockdowns, and buying the first CNC (3:33) Why they decided to turn machining into a business to fund tooling (6:10) Learning machining through YouTube, trial, error, and bad cuts (7:30) Why we love the SMW Autoblok catalog (8:00) Parents, neighbors, and running CNCs late at night (11:34) Early financial discipline and separating personal and business money (14:20) Exposure to entrepreneurship and learning through podcasts and peers (18:38) Finding first customers through friends and online communities (19:35) Building a machining-focused business community online (22:20) Scaling equipment and deciding when automation actually makes sense (25:54) Financing machines and managing growing monthly obligations (29:00) Why bookkeeping, accountants, and financial reviews mattered early (30:06) Factur: Market intelligence and targeting the right customers (34:39) Hire MFG Leaders ad: Hiring manufacturing leaders who actually fit (35:04) Working on the business versus in the business (40:16) Hiring quality before machinists and why it paid off (43:45) Investing early in systems and ERP to build credibility (52:03) Lessons learned from buying too small or cutting corners (54:18) Mistakes with customers, outsourcing, and trusting the wrong advice (58:40) Why founders can't outsource strategy or culture (1:01:40) Why you need to check out Buy the Numbers (1:02:38) Advice for young founders building their network (1:07:00) Where to connect with the Cerven brothers (1:08:00) Final reflections on starting early and thinking long-term Resources mentioned on this episode SMW Autoblok catalog Get a free industry report from Factur at FacturMFG.com/chips Buy the Numbers podcast The Third Door Cerven Solutions on Instagram Cerven Solutions Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Manufacturing doesn't always start with a perfectly funded plan or a shop full of machines. Sometimes it starts in a garage, with curiosity, grit, and a willingness to learn by doing. In this episode, we sit down with Caleb Harris, founder of Covenant Manufacturing, to talk about what it really looks like to start a CNC business at a young age. Caleb didn't inherit a shop or wait until everything felt safe. He learned by working in high-mix job shops, making mistakes, taking calculated risks, and slowly building confidence as both a machinist and a business owner. We dig into the early decisions that mattered most, from buying the first machine and pricing early jobs to managing cash, handling subcontracting issues, and building trust with customers. Along the way, Caleb shares honest lessons about risk, accountability, and why reputation matters even more when you're small. This conversation kicks off a new chapter of MakingChips focused on young founders who are stepping into manufacturing early and building businesses with intention. If you're under 30, thinking about ownership, or simply curious what the next generation of shop leaders is learning the hard way, this episode offers a real, unfiltered look at the journey. Segments (0:00) Why we're focusing on young founders and early ownership stories (2:24) Meeting Caleb Harris and how Covenant Manufacturing got its start (4:12) Get a free demo of Scaylor and finally unify your business data once and for all (5:25) Growing up homeschooled and discovering a passion for making (7:28) Knife making, early entrepreneurship, and learning what doesn't scale (10:01) Caleb's first exposure to CNC machining and seeing a viable business path (15:47) Working in a job shop to learn programming, setup, and workflow (20:26) Learning under pressure in a high-mix manufacturing environment (24:07) Understanding shop economics and thinking like an owner (31:07) Deciding to start a shop while still employed full time (32:47) Buying a first machine with limited capital and unloading it solo (35:32) Landing early jobs and growing through overflow work (41:32) Why you need to join us at IMTS 2026 (42:21) Managing risk without putting the business in danger (44:03) A subcontracting mistake and lessons on accountability (50:12) Building trust, culture, and reputation as a small shop (53:02) What growth looks like next for Covenant Manufacturing (57:46) Being young in manufacturing and turning age into an advantage (1:01:13) Advice for younger founders thinking about starting a shop (1:04:40) The role of community, mentorship, and industry relationships (1:07:50) Why we love SMW Autoblok workholding (1:09:01) Why these stories matter for the future of manufacturing Resources mentioned on this episode Get a free demo of Scaylor at Scaylor.com Register for IMTS 2026 We love SMW Autoblok workholding Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell Covenant Manufacturing Follow Covenant on Instagram Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

Kicking off a new year often comes with big goals, bold plans, and fresh momentum. But before chasing what's next, we decided to slow down and focus on something more foundational: our core values. In this episode, we share the behind-the-scenes process of defining the values that will guide MakingChips through 2026 and beyond. With the help of Jim Mayer, we took the ideas, behaviors, and instincts that had shaped the brand for years and intentionally put words around them. We talk about why core values are more than slogans on a wall. When done right, they become filters for decisions, hiring, investments, partnerships, and even the content we create. We also challenge a common misconception: that shared values require everyone to think the same way. Instead, strong values allow for diversity of background, belief, and perspective while still pulling people in the same direction. Along the way, the conversation blends humor, honesty, and real-world examples from manufacturing shops that live their values every day. From having fun at work to taking responsibility seriously, we explore how culture, action, and consistency are deeply connected. Whether you're running a shop, leading a team, or building a brand, this episode offers both inspiration and a practical framework for defining values that actually get used, not ignored. It's a reset for the year and a reminder that intentional culture is never accidental. Segments (0:00) Work, play, and why loving what you do matters (3:37) Why we decided to define our core values intentionally (4:19) Mission versus values and how they work together (6:30) Why we decided to do this exercise (7:28) Join us at the 2026 IMTS Exhibitor Workshop (9:35) Why shared values don't require identical beliefs (11:09) What core values are not and why posters don't work (13:57) Dissecting aspirational versus practical values (16:05) The process we used to define our values (20:52) Value #1: Elevating our Metalworking Nation (22:33) Value #2: Being real, raw, and bold (23:17) Investing in ProShop is an investment in your business (25:25) Value #3: Action is the outcome: say it, do it, own it (27:56) Value #4: Serious about manufacturing, never too serious about ourselves (33:16) Value #5: Contagious energy and unstoppable passion (35:43) A practical framework for defining your own values (37:42) Why we created Hire MFG Leaders (and why you should use it) (38:51) Putting values to work in reviews, hiring, and decisions Resources mentioned on this episode Join us at the 2026 IMTS Exhibitor Workshop Invest in ProShop, invest in your business Check out Hire MFG Leaders for your next hire Kyra Tillman of BTM Industries Connect with Jim Mayer to define your core values Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube