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Your Emails Are Too Polished: What Actually Works in EdTech Marketing
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| 5/21/26 | ![]() Your Emails Are Too Polished: What Actually Works in EdTech Marketing | Hello, World!Most education brands know email should be their strongest channel and yet it rarely delivers on its potential. Between inconsistent sends, generic copy, and the pressure to sound “professional,” messages that could build real connection often end up sounding like noise.Email strategist Liz Wilcox joins Elana to share how education organizations can shift from transactional messaging to meaningful communication. She breaks down why simplicity outperforms polish, how to build trust through steady, human touchpoints, and what the best senders are doing differently.She outlines her “follower, friend, customer” framework, a 20-minute approach to writing newsletters that actually get read, and the mindset shift from selling to serving. Liz also explains how a strong onboarding sequence sets the tone for every future interaction—and why owning your mistakes in email can make people trust you more, not less.If you’ve ever hesitated to hit send or wondered what to say next, this episode will reset how you think about email.What You’ll LearnWhy email should be the backbone of your marketing strategy—not an afterthoughtHow to turn your list into a community through consistency and simplicityThe “follower, friend, customer” model for long-term trust and engagementThe 20-minute newsletter framework that makes authentic communication sustainableHow to balance professionalism with personality (and why both matter)Why transparency, even in mistakes, builds loyalty faster than polishQuick Wins from the Lightning RoundShort, conversational subject lines outperform everything elseThe best send time is whenever you’ll actually send—consistency matters mostAlways use a P.S., it’s prime real estateKeep stories short and usefulStop overcomplicating; simple emails build trust fasterWhy It MattersThe difference between noise and connection isn’t design or frequency; it’s trust. Liz reminds us that effective email marketing comes from showing up consistently, sounding like a real person, and making every message worth opening. When we stop chasing perfection and start focusing on relationships, email becomes less of a tactic and more of a long-term advantage. | — | ||||||
| 4/30/26 | ![]() What Teachers Really Think About EdTech Right Now | There’s a shift happening in how technology is being talked about in education.Questions around screen time, student well-being, and the role of EdTech are becoming more visible. At the same time, educators are still navigating the day-to-day reality of using these tools to support learning, manage time, and stay effective in the classroom.That tension is creating a more layered conversation.Elana Leoni sits down with educator, author, and Ditch That Textbook founder Matt Miller, a voice that resonates widely with teachers and regularly collaborates with education brands. Together, they unpack what is actually happening beneath the surface, from how teachers want to be supported to how technology and AI are showing up in real classrooms.The conversation centers on a core question that continues to evolve. What is the true role of EdTech, and how do we ensure it stays grounded in teacher and student learning? | — | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | ![]() When “All EdTech Is Bad” Becomes the Conversation | There’s a noticeable shift happening in how technology is being talked about in education.What used to be a more measured conversation about tradeoffs and use is starting to move in a broader direction. In some cases, the conversation is moving faster than the reality inside classrooms, where educators are still figuring out how to use tools in thoughtful, practical ways.That gap is becoming more visible.At the same time, marketers are navigating a different kind of shift. AI is changing how content is surfaced and cited, and social media is starting to influence how professionals are discovered and evaluated in new ways.In this field notes episode, Elana Leoni shares what she is seeing across both of these dynamics. She brings in perspectives from educators, connects them to what marketers should be paying attention to, and offers practical guidance on how to navigate this moment with more clarity and intention.The episode show notes: http://leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcast | — | ||||||
| 4/2/26 | ![]() What Principals Actually Pay Attention To, How They Evaluate EdTech and Why Outreach Gets Ignored | What Principals Actually Pay Attention To, How They Evaluate EdTech and Why Outreach Gets IgnoredJordan Moldenhauer March 26, 2026There is a growing gap between how education is marketed to and how it is actually experienced inside schools.Leaders are navigating full days that require constant context switching, balancing relationships with students and teachers, operational demands, and long-term decisions about tools and systems.At the same time, marketers and vendors are trying to break through with messages about value, innovation, and now, AI.In this episode, Elana Leoni sits down with Chris Lehmann, founding principal of Science Leadership Academy, to ground that gap in reality. Chris shares what his day actually looks like, how he evaluates vendors, where marketing efforts fall apart, and what earns his attention over time. The conversation then moves into AI, where the tension between possibility and risk is not theoretical. It is showing up daily in classrooms, policies, and conversations about integrity.This episode is a candid look at what it means to engage education leaders in a way that is useful, honest, and sustainable.Explore the rest of the episode show notes here.Mentioned in this episode:LCG newsletter adSign up for the LCG newsletter on https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/newsletter-signup | — | ||||||
| 3/19/26 | ![]() AI Signals, Email Myths, and the Spring EdTech Buying Cycle | Education marketing often feels like two different worlds moving at once. The technology ecosystem shifts quickly, with AI tools introducing new ways for expertise to be discovered and trusted. At the same time, schools move on an entirely different rhythm shaped by academic calendars, testing seasons, and budget cycles.For marketers in this space, success rarely comes from chasing every new tactic. It comes from understanding the signals that actually shape decisions inside schools.In this “Field Notes” episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni reflects on several signals that have surfaced recently across AI, email marketing, and the education buying cycle. The discussion explores what LinkedIn’s role in AI responses may mean for professional authority, why unsubscribes are healthier for email programs than many teams assume, and how the spring portion of the school year affects marketing priorities.Review the show notes: www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcasts/rai-signals-email-myths-and-spring-edtech | — | ||||||
| 3/5/26 | ![]() Why K–12 EdTech Sales Requires More Than a Great Demo | 2 education has always required a different kind of sales approach. Long buying cycles. Multiple stakeholders. Deep accountability to students, families, and communities. But the environment today feels more measured than it did just a few years ago. District leaders are scrutinizing spend, thinking carefully about sustainability, and asking harder questions about long-term impact.We are not operating in the same ESSER-funded landscape that allowed for rapid pilots and flexible experimentation. Funding conversations now center on justification, alignment, and durability. AI may be accelerating attention, but caution is shaping decisions.In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni sits down with Shelby Jones of FuelK12 to explore what that shift means for education sales and marketing teams. They unpack ghosting, budget objections, the tension between depth and scale, and the structural misalignment that often exists between marketing and sales. The conversation stays practical, focused on what actually builds trust inside districts right now.See the resources and show notes here. | — | ||||||
| 2/19/26 | ![]() How AI, Buying Cycles, and Platform Shifts Are Reshaping Education Marketing | Education marketing is getting squeezed from both sides. Buyers are moving slower and asking for more proof, while the marketing landscape is moving faster than most teams can realistically track. AI is changing how people search and evaluate credibility. Conferences are still a major growth channel, but they are expensive and hard to measure. And social platforms keep rewriting the rules midstream.In this solo “Field Notes” episode, Elana Leoni surfaces practical signals from the last few weeks across AI, conferences, K–12 funding, and social media. The throughline is focus. What matters now is less about chasing every update, and more about building a marketing system that can hold up in a noisy, high-scrutiny, high-stakes category.Link to the episode show notes. | — | ||||||
| 2/5/26 | ![]() Inside the 2025 State EdTech Trends Report, What Matters for 2026 | State education agencies are moving faster than they are known for, and not because they want to. AI, funding uncertainty, and capacity constraints are forcing decisions that cannot wait.In this episode, Elana Leoni sits down with Julia Fallon of SETDA to unpack what the 2025 State EdTech Trends Report really tells us about where states are focused, what feels most fragile right now, and why modernization matters more than chasing the next innovation. This conversation is especially relevant for education marketers and leaders who want to understand how state priorities shape district decisions, and how to engage more thoughtfully in a tight, high-stakes environment.What You’ll LearnWhat SETDA is and why its State EdTech Trends Report offers a unique state-level lensHow the report is built, who contributes to it, and why it is timed around legislative sessionsWhy AI surpassed cybersecurity as the top state ed tech priority for the first timeWhat that shift signals about responsibility, risk, and trust, not enthusiasmWhere state AI guidance typically lives, how it varies, and why quality mattersWhy capacity and coherence, not commitment, are the most fragile issues right nowWhat the end of ESSER funding looks like in real operational terms, not just percentagesWhy Julia argues education needs modernization, not “innovation,” and how that reframes decision-makingWhat professional learning needs to look like to actually support adoption and impactA practical example of state-level ecosystem building from NebraskaFor more, visit the show notes here. | — | ||||||
| 1/22/26 | ![]() What Education Marketers Need to Know for 2026 and Where to Spend $10,000 | Education marketing is entering another year of tight budgets, longer decision cycles, and higher expectations from districts. The uncertainty is familiar now, but the pressure to make smart, focused choices has not eased. As teams plan for the next school year, the real challenge is not doing more. It is doing fewer things with greater intention.In this episode, Elana Leoni reflects on recent conversations across the education ecosystem to surface what matters most right now. From how districts are thinking about efficacy and technology use, to where marketers should actually invest limited resources, the episode focuses on signals that can guide smarter decisions in 2026. The goal is not optimism for optimism’s sake, but clarity about where attention, time, and budget are best spent.See resources and more in the episode show notes: leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcast Mentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner | — | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | ![]() How to Tell If Your EdTech Product Is Ready to Go to Market | In EdTech, things can start moving quickly. A new idea gets attention. A stakeholder asks for leads. A competitor launches something similar. Before long, teams feel pressure to act fast and show progress.The problem is that moving fast does not always mean moving in the right direction. When teams skip validation, meaning they have not yet confirmed that real educators or leaders truly need what they are building, speed can create more problems than momentum. Budgets get stretched, marketing efforts chase the wrong signals, and educators are asked to spend time on tools that do not actually solve a meaningful problem.In this episode, Kate Busby joins our CEO, Elana Leoni, to talk about what validation really looks like in EdTech. We break down how to tell the difference between early interest and real demand, why this work is often messy, and how marketers can use AI to test ideas, messaging, and prototypes faster without losing sight of the people they are trying to serve.What You’ll LearnA simple four-stage way to think about validation, from idea to scalingWhy “friends, family, and fools” feedback is a signal, but not proofHow to spot when you are still in hustle mode, even if you call it tractionWhere pivots are most realistic, and when they get expensiveHow to use competitor reviews, sales transcripts, and lightweight surveys to speed up market researchA practical method for pairing real-world insights with synthetic personas to test positioningWhy prototyping is one of the most useful AI applications for marketers right nowThe discovery question more founders should ask, and how it can shape your SEO, copy, and campaignsFor quick wins from the lightning round and details on resources mentioned, visit the episode show notes: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/podcasts/is-your-edtech-product-is-ready-to-go-to-marketMentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner | — | ||||||
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| 12/4/25 | ![]() December Playbook: Support Teachers, Reach Leaders, and Get January Ready | December in K-12 is two weeks of chaos wrapped in out-of-office replies. Teachers are hanging on until winter break, district leaders are buried in celebrations and strategy, and your carefully crafted sales push is not getting the response your dashboard hoped for. If you are still banking on December to hit revenue targets, this episode is a reality check and a reset.In this episode, Elana breaks down what December really looks like for teachers and decision makers, how to show up with human first marketing, and why your smartest plays now are relationship building, evergreen content, and getting January ready before you log off. She also shares fresh LinkedIn and Instagram trends, plus an insight from Education Week that might change how you think about pillar content.Episode show notes.Mentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner | — | ||||||
| 11/20/25 | ![]() Landing Pages, Leads, and RFPs: A Practical Guide for EdTech Growth | Most education organizations are under pressure to do more with less. Teams are lean, hiring is frozen, and yet the demand for leads, pipeline, and proof of ROI keeps growing. At the same time, the buying cycle in K12 has never felt more compressed or more high stakes. You cannot afford to waste effort on campaigns, events, or RFPs that do not convert.That is where fractional marketing leadership comes in. When you only have a limited number of hours, every decision has to count. You have to land quickly, read the politics, find the true priorities, and show impact fast while still building a sustainable system behind the scenes.In this episode, long time marketing leader and fractional strategist Allison Maudlin joins Elana to talk about what it really takes to step into an education company, stabilize the chaos, and create momentum. They dig into how to start when leadership only cares about “more leads now,” where the real low hanging fruit usually hides, and why RFPs are a strategic marketing channel, not just paperwork for sales to handle.They also get tactical about landing pages, forms, and workflows that quietly kill conversion, how to think about state specific strategy, and why the future of education marketing is people plus AI, not one or the other.Read the rest of the show notes here. Mentioned in this episode:EdTech Planner 2026Planning a full year of education marketing takes time, and you need a clear path that helps you stay relevant, consistent, and aligned with the moments that matter. Ready to make 2026 your most intentional (and effective!) year yet in education marketing? What The EdTech Marketer’s 2026 Planner helps you do: Focus on what matters most to your brand and audience Plan campaigns around key education events Use proven strategies tailored to K–12 and higher ed Build a system that fuels visibility, engagement, and leads For six years, thousands of education and EdTech marketers have used this planner to guide their yearly campaigns and stay aligned with the school calendar. Download here: https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/edtech-marketers-planner | — | ||||||
| 11/6/25 | ![]() November Education Marketing Guide: Timing, Gratitude, and Social Media Shifts | What happens when attention dips before the holiday break, buying cycles heat up for 2025–26 budgets, and your channels keep changing the rules at the same time? You get November, a short, high-leverage month that rewards focus and relationship building.In this episode, Elana gets tactical. She maps the November mindset for educators, lays out timely moments you can use without feeling gimmicky, and gives specific, platform-by-platform plays you can run this week. She closes with two sharp prompts from LinkedIn that will force you to rethink how you invest in your network and your schedule.What You’ll LearnHow to show up with real gratitude that uplifts educators, customers, advocates, and your teamWhy November demands high-utility content and PD that lightens the classroom loadTimely November moments to use well, World Kindness Day, NaNoWriMo, Thanksgiving, and post-holiday retail windowsExactly what to prioritize on Instagram, heavy Reels, created and scheduled in appWhat is actually working on LinkedIn, carousel storytelling, micro frameworks, short visual lessons, plus a reach boost tied to new commentersA simple Facebook format that still drives group and page engagementHow to keep your brand visible while leaders research vendors and set budgets for 2025–26Two mindset checks to strengthen your network and your calendar disciplineAccess the full episode show notes. | — | ||||||
| 10/16/25 | ![]() Hit Send Anyway: Finding Confidence and Connection in Your Emails | Most education brands know email should be their strongest channel and yet it rarely delivers on its potential. Between inconsistent sends, generic copy, and the pressure to sound “professional,” messages that could build real connection often end up sounding like noise.Email strategist Liz Wilcox joins Elana to share how education organizations can shift from transactional messaging to meaningful communication. She breaks down why simplicity outperforms polish, how to build trust through steady, human touchpoints, and what the best senders are doing differently in 2025.She outlines her “follower, friend, customer” framework, a 20-minute approach to writing newsletters that actually get read, and the mindset shift from selling to serving. Liz also explains how a strong onboarding sequence sets the tone for every future interaction—and why owning your mistakes in email can make people trust you more, not less.If you’ve ever hesitated to hit send or wondered what to say next, this episode will reset how you think about email.What You’ll LearnWhy email should be the backbone of your marketing strategy—not an afterthoughtHow to turn your list into a community through consistency and simplicityThe “follower, friend, customer” model for long-term trust and engagementThe 20-minute newsletter framework that makes authentic communication sustainableHow to balance professionalism with personality (and why both matter)Why transparency, even in mistakes, builds loyalty faster than polishAccess the full show notes.Mentioned in this episode:LCG newsletter adSign up for the LCG newsletter on https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/newsletter-signup | — | ||||||
| 10/2/25 | ![]() October Priorities: How to Balance Adoption, Budgets, and List-Building | What happens when districts set budgets, educators finally breathe after back-to-school, and conferences flood the calendar—all at once? You get October, the single most important month in the education marketing cycle.In this special solo episode, Elana shares why October is such a pivotal moment for vendors, partners, and school leaders. She breaks down how to support current users, align with budget planning, build your list, and show up at conferences with real value—not just swag. Along the way, she reflects on lessons learned from colleagues like Allison Modlin (on why success is a square, not a line) and Matt Stinson (on why most vendors should stop chasing cold RFPs).Whether you’re leading sales, marketing, or customer success, this episode will help you focus on what actually matters before the year slips away.What You’ll LearnWhy October is the only “full” month left in the calendar year and how to make the most of itHow to double down on customer success and PD to boost adoption and renewalsWhy aligning sales, marketing, product, and customer success as a “square” matters more than everHow budget-setting cycles give you a chance to position your product for 2026 (and beyond)Smart ways to use conferences for list-building and relationship-buildingThe right (and wrong) way to jump on seasonal or cultural trendsWhy it’s time to prioritize ethical list-building through lead magnets, webinars, and emailWhy It MattersIn education, timing is everything. October is when educators are ready to deepen usage, district leaders are finalizing budgets, and conferences create endless opportunities for connection. If you miss this window, you risk falling behind on renewals, losing visibility in the budget cycle, and scrambling to catch up in the new year.Mentioned in this episode:LCG newsletter adSign up for the LCG newsletter on https://www.leoniconsultinggroup.com/newsletter-signup | — | ||||||
| 9/18/25 | ![]() Why Outcomes, Not Features, Should Guide Every EdTech Decision | What would happen if EdTech stopped chasing features and aligned around two simple goals: postsecondary readiness and clear ROI for districts? Matthew Kennard, CEO of BetterLesson, joins Elana to unpack how EdTech can move beyond features and usage stats to what really matters: outcomes. He shares his path from finance to education, why accountability is essential for both vendors and leaders, and how outcome-based professional learning can drive real change. Together, they explore the Guskey framework, the need for resilient systems, and what it takes to partner with districts in a time of shrinking budgets and rising expectations.Whether you’re a founder, a marketer, or a school leader, this conversation will push you to rethink how your work ties back to student outcomes.What You’ll LearnWhy EdTech isn’t really B2B, and how that changes the ways we successfully market and sellThe two outcomes district leaders are truly held accountable for (and how vendors can support them)How to use the Guskey framework to evaluate professional learning and product impactPractical baby steps for moving toward outcomes-based measurement without a massive budgetWhy building system resiliency matters more than point solutions in times of uncertaintyHow to help district leaders become better storytellers of impactWhy It MattersDistricts are being asked to do more with less, while showing evidence of ROI and preparing every student for a postsecondary pathway. Vendors who only talk features or usage risk being cut. As Matt puts it, our industry has to simplify what matters and hold ourselves accountable to outcomes that truly move the system forward.Show notes on our website. | — | ||||||
| 9/4/25 | ![]() Stop Sending Generic Emails: Email Marketing for the K–12 Buying Cycle | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana chats with Kelly Cline, a former educator turned EdTech copywriter and email marketing strategist. With over a decade of experience in the classroom, Kelly brings a rare, grounded perspective to email strategy rooted in both deep empathy for educators and real-world ROI.Whether you're building your first email list or trying to breathe life into your 10th nurture sequence, this conversation will help you sharpen your messaging, find your voice, and cut through the inbox noise.What You’ll Learn:Why email is still the highest-ROI channel—and how EdTech brands can use it effectivelyCommon messaging mistakes in EdTech (and how to fix them)How to build a brand voice that’s strategic, human, and distinctly youLow-lift ways to grow your list (even without a big team or budget)What metrics actually matter—and what to watch for beyond open ratesCopy tips that boost engagement, including subject line tweaks, button CTAs, and storytelling flowWhy It Matters Too many EdTech brands rely on email tactics built for other industries. Kelly offers a refreshingly nuanced take that centers educators, honors the buying cycle, and turns email into a true relationship-builder—not just a megaphone.Spoiler: When she’s not writing high-converting emails, Kelly’s taking cold plunges in Copenhagen—yep, winter bathing is part of her creative process.Visit our website for the rest of the show notes. | — | ||||||
| 8/21/25 | ![]() Why Marketing in Education Isn’t Like Marketing Anywhere Else | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni sits down with Melissa Heyeck, Senior Director of Marketing at Education Week and creator of The Wired Marketer, a must-read newsletter for anyone navigating EdTech marketing.With deep experience across the nonprofit and EdTech sectors, Melissa brings a sharp, empathetic lens to what it really takes to engage decision-makers in education. From what’s working in content marketing to the influence teachers actually have in purchasing decisions, Melissa breaks down where most marketers go wrong, and how to shift toward a more data-informed, audience-centered approach.Together, Elana and Melissa explore:Why “teacher buy-in” is just as influential as state standards or research-backed claimsWhat district leaders really mean when they say a product must be “research-based”How AI can support teachers, but why 71% still haven’t received PD on how to use itThe case for doubling down on content marketing (especially in tight budget years)What newsletters like The Wired Marketer can teach us about helping, not hypingWhy diversifying your marketing channels is no longer optionalThis episode is a must-listen for education marketers trying to build trust, stay relevant, and connect with audiences in a rapidly evolving landscape. Melissa shares real data, actionable ideas, and a refreshing take on what it means to do marketing with purpose in K–12 education.🎧 Plus: Find out what unlikely weekend hobby helps Melissa recharge and show up more grounded during the workweek. (Spoiler: it involves dirt, not decks.)Show notes and resources. | — | ||||||
| 7/10/25 | ![]() What’s Really Changing in K–12 Tech? A Deep Dive into CoSN’s 2025 Report | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni sits down with Keith Krueger, CEO of CoSN (Consortium for School Networking), to unpack the biggest takeaways from CoSN’s 2025 State of EdTech District Leadership report.With over three decades of experience leading conversations around technology in education, Keith offers a grounded, systems-level view of where K–12 technology leadership is headed. From the rise of AI to the persistent gaps in cybersecurity readiness, Keith shares what’s keeping CTOs up at night—and where they see real opportunity for change.Together, Elana and Keith explore:Why 91% of EdTech leaders now sit at the decision-making table and what that means for vendorsThe dramatic rise of generative AI as the #1 tech priority, even as 27% of districts still lack a defined approachWhy most districts are underestimating major cybersecurity threats, despite being the #1 target for ransomwareHow workforce shifts are changing the makeup of EdTech leadership (and how still to communicate with buyers)What it really looks like to be a trusted thought partner, not just a vendor on the exhibit floorThis episode offers essential context for anyone working to align technology solutions with the real-world needs of school and district leaders. Keith shares not only what the data says, but how it feels on the ground, with honest insights about policy, pressure, and the practical realities of K–12 tech leadership in 2025.🎧 Plus: Keith shares his favorite way to reset after a long day (spoiler: it involves an e-bike and a good podcast).Mentioned in this episode:Level Up Your Education Brand on LinkedIn— in Less Than 5 Hours a WeekA self-paced course built for busy education leaders, marketers, and EdTech entrepreneurs who want real results for their LinkedIn Company Page, without overwhelm. | — | ||||||
| 6/12/25 | ![]() What It Takes to Build District Relationships That Last | Jacob Kantor (aka the Chief DODO) joins Elana to share how EdTech teams can earn trust—not just attention—by leading with empathy, listening well, and following up without selling. Packed with honest advice for anyone trying to build real relationships with school districts.Check out the LinkedIn course.Read the episode show notes.Mentioned in this episode:Level Up Your Education Brand on LinkedIn— in Less Than 5 Hours a WeekA self-paced course built for busy education leaders, marketers, and EdTech entrepreneurs who want real results for their LinkedIn Company Page, without overwhelm. | — | ||||||
| 5/15/25 | ![]() What Districts Actually Want from EdTech Partners | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana sits down with Jeremy Dulle, Founder and President of Spring Rock Partners. With over 25 years of experience as a growth strategist, go-to-market advisor, and business developer, Jeremy brings a rare blend of EdTech expertise and Fortune 500 perspective to the table.As funding tightens and districts face mounting pressure to streamline their tech stacks, EdTech companies must prove their value—fast. Jeremy shares practical, hard-earned insights on what sustainable growth looks like in today’s education landscape.Together, Elana and Jeremy explore:The unique complexities of selling to school districts—and how to navigate themWhy implementation is just as important as product innovationCommon missteps EdTech companies make (especially when entering the space)What educators really care about—and how to earn their trustHow to align business goals with district outcomes, not just flashy featuresThis conversation is a must-listen for EdTech leaders who want to build not just a product—but a true partnership with schools.“If you're not tracking usage and providing impact, you're making it easy for districts to cut you.” – Jeremy DulleHere’s the full episode Show notes. | — | ||||||
| 4/24/25 | ![]() How to Build Smarter EdTech Marketing Plans in a Changing Landscape | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, Elana Leoni sits down with Hallie Smith, a seasoned EdTech leader, former educator, and now fractional marketing advisor. Hallie brings her full-circle journey—from early EdTech roles to speech pathology in public schools, and back into EdTech—to unpack the evolving challenges and opportunities in education marketing today.Together, Elana and Hallie explore:The surprising trajectory from EdTech to the classroom—and back againWhy it's getting harder to market to educators, and what to do about itThe crucial difference between marketing to educators and with themHow AI and funding shifts are disrupting the EdTech landscapeCommon marketing mistakes EdTech companies make (and how to fix them)Tactical advice on crafting a marketing plan that actually aligns with your business goalsThis episode is a must-listen for anyone trying to make meaningful, measurable impact in education—whether you’re new to the space or a seasoned pro.🎧 Plus: Hallie’s refreshingly honest answer to what really helps her recharge in the face of industry burnout.Here’s the rest of Hallie's show notes. | — | ||||||
| 4/17/25 | ![]() Q2 in Education Marketing: What’s Coming, What’s Changing, and What You Need to Do Now | Q2 is here—and it’s a whirlwind. In this timely episode, Elana Leoni, CEO of Leoni Consulting Group, and Senior Social Media Manager Hillary Trussell break down everything education marketers need to know right now: from federal budget cuts and district layoffs to the impact of AI, shifting conversations in education’s key phrases, and tightening sales cycles. They also dig into key Q2 events like ASU+GSV, NSBA, and ISTE, plus can’t-miss opportunities like Teacher Appreciation Month and graduation season. Whether you're planning campaigns or prepping your booth, this is your go-to guide for staying relevant, building trust, and getting results.Read the rest of the show notes here. | — | ||||||
| 3/27/25 | ![]() Using Storytelling to Make Your Education Marketing More Meaningful and Effective | We’re revisiting this conversation with Katie Test Davis—not just because it’s one of our most-loved episodes, but because it’s a reminder we could all use right now.In a time when educators and decision-makers are overwhelmed by constant change, shifting strategies, and too much information, storytelling still cuts through the noise. In this episode, Katie unpacks how to use storytelling as a strategic tool, not just a feel-good add-on. You’ll hear how to identify a powerful main character, how to connect that story to your broader vision, and how to make it resonate with different audiences, whether you’re talking to a superintendent, a classroom teacher, or a donor.Elana and Katie also get into the emotional side of storytelling: why it matters, why it’s memorable, and why now is the perfect time to double down on it. From scrappy, low-budget formats to long-term campaigns, they explore the mindset and tactics education organizations need to tell better, braver stories.Whether you're just getting started or need a fresh perspective, this episode will leave you thinking differently about how stories shape perception, drive action, and remind us why we do this work in the first place.View the rest of the episode show notes. | — | ||||||
| 3/6/25 | ![]() The Secret to Sales & Marketing Success? A Shared Revenue Mindset | In this episode of All Things Marketing and Education, host Elana Leoni sits down with Dan O’Reilly, founder of FuelK12, who brings over 35 years of sales experience—half of that in EdTech. Having led both sales and marketing teams, Dan offers a unique perspective on why these two functions often struggle to work together—and what it takes to truly align them.Dan unpacks the biggest barriers between sales and marketing, from siloed goals to misaligned expectations. He shares why shared goals (not just aligned goals) are the key to breaking down silos and fostering real collaboration. The conversation covers tactical steps to build a culture of alignment, including regular communication, journey mapping exercises, and using data to eliminate the blame game.This discussion is especially relevant as EdTech companies navigate long sales cycles, shifting budgets, and increasing pressure to drive measurable results. Dan offers practical advice on how marketing and sales teams can move beyond tension and toward a shared revenue mindset. Whether you're a CMO, head of sales, or EdTech leader looking to improve cross-team collaboration, this episode provides actionable insights to strengthen your go-to-market strategy.View the episode's show notes. | — | ||||||
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