National Rural Education Association Official Podcast
by Dr Allen Pratt, Mr. Jared Bigham
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S06E07 - Rural Schools at the Front Edge of Ai, an interview with Dr. Beth Rabbitt
Jun 2, 2026
42m 01s
S05E06 - Building Strong Readers in Rural Schools: An Interview with Ms. Tracy Kingsley and Ms. Ashley Wood
Apr 24, 2026
37m 40s
S05E05 - Rethinking Success: Music Education, Community, and the Power of Rural Schools. An Interview with Dr. Daniel Johnson
Mar 31, 2026
39m 23s
S05E04 - School Choice in Rural America: What’s at Stake. An interview with Dr. Preston Green.
Dec 15, 2025
34m 35s
S05E03 - Making Connections in Rural Math: Jeff Granrud, NREA Teacher of the Year
Oct 10, 2025
23m 39s
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| 6/2/26 |  S06E07 - Rural Schools at the Front Edge of Ai, an interview with Dr. Beth Rabbitt✨ | artificial intelligencerural education+3 | Dr. Beth Rabbitt | FullScale | — | AIrural schools+5 | — | 42m 01s | |
| 4/24/26 |  S05E06 - Building Strong Readers in Rural Schools: An Interview with Ms. Tracy Kingsley and Ms. Ashley Wood✨ | literacy coachingrural education+3 | Tracy KingsleyAshley Wood | Newburgh R2 School DistrictTNTP | — | literacy coachingrural schools+3 | — | 37m 40s | |
| 3/31/26 |  S05E05 - Rethinking Success: Music Education, Community, and the Power of Rural Schools. An Interview with Dr. Daniel Johnson✨ | music educationrural education+2 | Dr Daniel Johnson | Music Education in Rural AmericaHolistic Musical Thinking+10 | VermontNew Hampshire+1 | rural schoolsinterdisciplinary arts education+2 | — | 39m 23s | |
| 12/15/25 |  S05E04 - School Choice in Rural America: What’s at Stake. An interview with Dr. Preston Green.✨ | school choicerural education+3 | Dr Preston Green | The Rural Voice Podcastthe University of Connecticut’s+9 | — | education lawfunding shortfalls+2 | — | 34m 35s | |
| 10/10/25 |  S05E03 - Making Connections in Rural Math: Jeff Granrud, NREA Teacher of the Year✨ | rural educationmath teaching+3 | Jeff Granrud | math toolseducational technology+7 | North Dakota | Teacher of the Yearrural math+3 | — | 23m 39s | |
| 10/3/25 |  S05E02 - Building Momentum: Anticipating the NFARE 2025✨ | NREA conventionprofessional growth+3 | Bill ChapmanChristopher Silver+1 | NREANFARE | — | NFARE 2025educators+2 | — | 30m 48s | |
| 9/25/25 |  S05E01 - New Voices in Rural Leadership: Introducing Bill Chapman & Melissa Sadorf✨ | rural educationleadership+2 | Dr Melissa SadorfDr Bill Chapman | the National Rural Education AssociationNREA+3 | Salt Lake City | NREANational Forum to Advance Rural Education+3 | — | 21m 32s | |
| 1/15/25 |  S04E09 - Empowering Rural Education: Lisa Rahn on Career Readiness, UDL, and eDynamic Learning's Impact on Rural Education.✨ | rural educationcareer readiness+3 | Lisa Rahn | eDynamic LearningeDynamic Learning's | U.S. | eDynamic LearningCTE pathways+2 | — | 29m 51s | |
| 10/25/24 |  S04E08 - Filling the Gap in the Teacher Shortage in Rural Education, an Interview with Annette Rodriguez of Proximity Learning✨ | teacher shortagerural education+3 | Annette Logsdon-Rodriguez | Proximity LearningRural Education+11 | Texas | Proximity Learningeducation solutions+3 | — | 32m 07s | |
| 9/19/24 |  S04E07 - From Meteorology to High School Chemistry Teacher, an Interview with Ms. Rachael Straughn.✨ | meteorologyeducation+3 | Rachael Straughn | M.S. EdBachelors in Meteorology+6 | SealeAlabama+7 | Russell County High SchoolSeale Alabama+3 | — | 36m 54s | |
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| 8/20/24 |  S04E06 - There is Hope!!! Revitalizing communities through small town investment and educational partnerships, An interview with Jon Chadwell.✨ | economic developmentcommunity revitalization+2 | Jon Chadwell | tech depotthe Newport Arkansas Economic Development Commission+15 | NewportArkansas+5 | small town investmentinfrastructure+3 | — | 33m 03s | |
| 8/19/24 |  S04E05 - Information Technology, Student Data Privacy and Records, Everyone’s Responsibility, An Interview with Ms. Linnette Attai.✨ | student data privacytechnology+3 | Linnette Attai | CoSN resourcesthe Rural Voice+4 | U.S. | CoSNhacking+3 | — | 31m 37s | |
| 5/17/24 |  S04E04 - Engaging Communities through Higher Education, an Interview with Dr. Brian Noland, President of East Tennessee State University | For this episode, we interview Dr. Brian Noland, the President of East Tennessee State University (ETSU). ETSU is a rural university serving the states of Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, and Kentucky. ETSU is located in a mountainous area of the country and has a strong presence in these states. ETSU has a strong education program for developing Rural Southeast United States teachers. We discussed the future of rural communities and how graduates from ETSU support these communities. Dr Noland believes that relationships are an important part of advocacy for raising awareness of the unique challenges within mountain communities. Dr. Noland believes in making a presence in these rural areas to serve this relationship focus. We discussed the importance of humility in making these relationships and meeting students and teachers where they are. We discuss some of the biggest challenges in education in the rural south. We talk about raising attainment levels. We discussed changing the perception of higher education in rural areas. For example, higher education wastes time and money indoctrinating students, and students will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. Dr. Noland discusses the challenges of this narrative in helping students make the right decision for them. With all the available student funding through programs such as Tennessee Promise, students can attend college with little to no debt. One of the biggest challenges is this false narrative about college. Higher education empowers students to have greater earning power in the marketplace. ETSU is an economic driver of innovation and job creation in the rural south. ETSU is a teaching school and a medical science school. Many local residents connect with medical and educational professionals trained at ETSU. In other words, many residents connect with ETSU in many ways. We end the episode by discussing the role of ETSU Elevates, where students build a community partnership with organizations. The goal is to build student/community engagement to solve community challenges and to give back to small towns by working with community partners and meeting needs as identified by those partners. Dr. Noland shared that he and his team want students to dream big and actualize their dreams. Dr. Noland’s Bio Since 2012, Dr. Brian Noland has served as the ninth president of East Tennessee State University. Before that, he led the development and implementation of higher education policy in Tennessee and West Virginia. Dr. Noland’s Socials X (formally Twitter): https://x.com/ETSUPrez Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/etsuprez/ -LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-noland-etsu/ ETSU is part of Four the Future, a statewide initiative to showcase the value of a four-year degree for Tennesseans. Learn more at fourthefuturetn.com. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FourTheFutureTN/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/four-the-future-tn/ ETSU’s Socials X (formally Twitter): https://x.com/etsu Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/etsu/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/school/east-tennessee-state-university Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/easttennesseestateuniversity/ This episode is sponsored by My Credential at https://www.mycredential.com/ | — | ||||||
| 5/8/24 |  S04E03 – Understanding New Teacher Expectations in Rural America from Retention to Practice. An Interview with Dr. Casey Jakubowski. | We interviewed Dr. Casey Jakubowski about teacher retention, policy, and practice. Dr. Jakubowski shared that Appalachia extends into New York State, and we reflected on how New York has large rural communities. Much of Dr. Jakubowski's work has focused on these communities and beyond (including West Virginia). We discuss the changing trends of job availability to applicants. We discuss burnout of new rural teachers and pay disparities between urban versus suburban teaching. The revolving door of teachers causes students not to have a permeance of personalities and connections with teachers. Interpersonal relationships between teachers and students are important to student success. We discussed some common issues facing rural education, including internet access and lack of amenities such as Starbucks as a cultural expectation of new teachers. One solution noted by Dr. Jakubowski is for rural districts to partner to address the unique challenges in rural education. We shift to discuss the rural funding in New York State. Dr. Jakubowski shares that given this perceived decrease in the number of kids in rural education states, such as New York, are starting to cut budgets for rural education. This has a direct impact on programs and teachers in these schools. We discuss how teachers hold significant responsibility for the welfare of their communities, families, and students to help students succeed. Finally, Dr. Jakubowski discusses place-based teaching as a solution to give resources to rural teaching. This helps facilitate partnerships between the teachers and the community to help students see how their education is connected to their community. These can be connected to science, history, math, and other topics. Further, he suggests we should celebrate other educational programs such as the Scouts of America, 4-H, and other programs that assist in preparing students for leadership and the workforce. Check out Dr. Jakubowski's book Getting to the Hearts of Teaching, as some of the topics discussed come from this book. Casey Jakubowski Phd founder of Dragontamer.us is the author of books on Rural Education and the teacher retention crisis. Thinking about Teaching, A cog in the machine, ang Getting to the Hearts of Teaching(EduMatch Publishing) are rural inspired and rural focused. He is the co author of Crush it from the start: 50 tips for new teachers (SchoolRubric) designed to help the educator retention crisis. A historian,,Casey wrote Rural Education history: state policy meets local implementation (Lexington) that delves into the failed school consolidation policies. His book, Minerva Conflict in the hills (Lexington) examines the history of the Post World War II centralization policy towards education. My Credential sponsors this episode at https://www.mycredential.com/ | — | ||||||
| 4/16/24 |  S04E02 - Computer Science in Rural Education Curriculum, an Interview with Ms. Karen Mix | In this episode, we discuss rural initiatives to train students in computer science. We interviewed Ms. Karen Mix, the co-director of CS4NorCal, a five-year research grant. This program creates K-12 computer science training. CS4NorCal was funded by a grant from the U.S. Department of Education, Education Innovation and Research (EIR) Program and sponsored by SSDA to support Computer Science (CS) professional learning and instruction in rural Northern California. The project is currently building a model for computer science in rural schools. Ms. Mix discusses the role of partnerships within the six counties in Northern California with professional development for teachers and generating access for teachers to attend. We discussed how the various ways this program has supported computer science programs in rural schools. We discuss how schools can find funding for these programs and how partnerships can aid resources and education. We discuss how the curriculum can be implemented at various levels and programs. Links of interest CS4NorCal Main Website - https://www.cs4norcal.org/ CS4NorCal Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CS4NorCal/ CS4NorCal Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/company/cs4norcal/ Code.org - http://code.org CSforCA - https://csforca.org/ CS for All - https://www.csforall.org/ Computer Science Teachers Association (CSTA) - https://csteachers.org/ CS4NorCal Presentation - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zvybwzYf4RiIGsfeu3R8J-T8bvcLgE4ssn_x5PWtMT0/edit#slide=id.g2b9a718b659_0_1733 Implementation Dashboard - https://lookerstudio.google.com/reporting/90b34553-bb57-4969-84fe-7af0d3a9c6e4/page/5iGTD This episode is sponsored by My Credential at https://www.mycredential.com/ | — | ||||||
| 3/28/24 |  S04E01 - Rural Framing and data-informed exploration of the changing landscape of Rural America with Dr Brad Mitchell | In the first episode of the new season of the Rural Voice, we talk about the research of place and process of rural education from a data-informed perspective. We discuss the role of Ground Truthing and connecting data within the domains of politics, culture, and fear of consolidation. Dr. Mitchell talks about somewhere (rural) and anywhere (urban and suburban). The politics of these are what many would expect. Somewhere, lean more conservative, and anywhere is more liberal. However, these trends in the data are not uniform. In some rural areas, some voters lean liberal, particularly for those people of color. More rural suburban locations vote more conservatively. These spaces include many small business owners. More diverse suburbs lean more liberal as well. Similarly, we are seeing a shift toward skills-based education in high schools, such as trade education (e.g., Information Technology). Thus, educational pathways should be more connected to local needs. We discussed the role of emotion and between-group conflict, such as city and rural tension, the reemergence of populism, women's rights, diversity, and others. These trends have a trickle-down influence on education. We discuss psychology's role in explaining the American shift toward being "groupy" and how it insulates us from perceived threats to our values and groups. We talk about access to resources such as money, natural resources, services, etc. This directly connects to educational offerings and how policy influences local schools, particularly concerning policy and law. From the cultural perspective, it relates to migration and the changing rural demographics. At the same time, we see a change in Hispanic populations in rural America, but African Americans also move to rural areas, including the Southeast United States. This can place a financial strain on these small communities as, in some cases, these communities are seeing an increase in migration, particularly for public schools. This will create new challenges for educators in rural education to meet the needs of these populations (e.g., ESL services). The final domain concerns the fear of consolidating small communities to merge services where rural communities may lose their identity. Dr. Mitchell suggests that these issues will play a role in rural education in the future. Much of the curriculum and policy will be related to places, resources, and job markets and how rural education changes to meet these challenges through the somewhere versus anywhere paradigm. | — | ||||||
| 2/2/24 |  S03E27 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Valerie Rutledge | Dr. Valerie Rutledge, Dean of the College of Health, Education, and Professional Studies at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, discussed the large, diverse mix of accredited and licensure programs her college oversees. With an extensive background as an educator and administrator, Rutledge highlighted impressions from the record-setting National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. She noted the hundreds of attendees from 48 states and abroad, representing the importance of understanding widespread rural needs despite regional differences. If Rutledge had a "magic wand," she would increase rural schools' visibility and confidence while expanding opportunities and resources for rural students to unleash their potential. Dr. Rutledge can be reached at valerie-rutledge@utc.edu. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 2/1/24 |  S03E26 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Mike Hines | Mike Hines, representing business and industry, discussed new federal infrastructure funding for rural schools at the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. The Inflation Reduction Act's $369 billion tax credits allow non-taxable entities like schools to access cash to upgrade aging systems for energy efficiency. Hines explained how schools can leverage these funds as a down payment and use future energy savings to pay for complete infrastructure modernization without further straining budgets. The act also emphasizes job training so future workers can operate and maintain new technology. Hines invites listeners to contact the TRAIN organization to connect with him about the 48C ITC federal program supporting rural schools with major facility Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/31/24 |  S03E25 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Melissa Sadorf | Dr. Melissa Seidorf, superintendent of a small, rural Arizona district, was interviewed at the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. Seidorf co-hosts the Rural Scoop podcast highlighting rural education issues. At the conference, she presented on overcoming leadership challenges, drawing from her upcoming book "The Resilient Rural Leader." Seidorf discussed the tight-knit, supportive nature of rural communities that actively engage with their schools. If she had a "magic wand," Seidorf would amplify rural voices at all levels to raise awareness that rural student needs differ from urban ones. She defines the "rural advantage" as an intimate community and family connectedness where schools are central hubs. Seidorf can be reached on Twitter @Dr_Sadorf and will retire after 13 years leading her district this summer. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/30/24 |  S03E24 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Julia Cunningham | Julia Cunningham, the U.S. Department of Education's Director of Rural Engagement, attended the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference to connect with rural advocates and share federal efforts like the new Career Connected High School grant program. This program funds career pathways and work-based learning to provide rural students with more local career opportunities. Cunningham noted the optimism, alignment, and collaborative spirit across the rural education community in spaces like this. If she had a "magic wand," Cunningham would ensure every rural school could become a fully-funded community school offering healthcare, food, and other wraparound supports less accessible in remote areas. People can learn more by subscribing to Cunningham's monthly Rural School and Community Updates newsletter and emailing her at Julia.Cunningham@ed.gov. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/29/24 |  S03E23 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Joe Sanfillipo | Joe Sanfilippo, a superintendent from Northwest Wisconsin, keynoted the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. He discussed the welcoming, supportive nature of rural educators who face common challenges with small school sizes and remote locations. Sanfilippo emphasized the importance of storytelling to inform the public, combat misconceptions, and spotlight the meaningful work happening in schools today. Rather than a "magic wand" solution, he believes supporting and taking care of staff to nurture students is most impactful. Sanfilippo can be found on social media @Joe_Sanfilippo to continue the conversation about elevating rural education. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/28/24 |  S03E22 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Jerry Johnson | Jerry Johnson, the Phoebe Moore Dale Distinguished Professor in Rural Education at East Carolina University, discussed the upcoming release of the 2023 "Why Rural Matters" report. This tenth edition marks the first published under the National Rural Education Association. Johnson notes how NREA has strengthened connections between researchers and practitioners to serve rural schools better. The report uses public data to highlight the top issues facing rural education in each state, informing policymakers' priorities. If he could instantly resolve one problem, Johnson would want universal recognition that rural people and places matter. He expects future data to quantify COVID-19's impacts on rural communities. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/27/24 |  S03E21 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Jason Gordon | Dr. Jason Gordon, an assistant professor at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, was interviewed at the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. Gordon discussed his former special education teacher background and current work preparing teacher candidates. He presented research on an apprenticeship model for teacher training. Gordon emphasized the importance of networking and collaboration between rural communities to share information and support each other. He designs clinical experiences to expose teaching candidates to diverse settings like urban, suburban, and rural schools. Gordon invites people to connect with him by email to learn more about UTC's teacher preparation programs. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/26/24 |  S03E20 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Christopher Lagoni | Christopher Ligoni, executive director of the Indiana Small and Rural Schools Association, was interviewed at the National Farm to Advance Rural Education conference. He discussed innovative teaching models like Cosmos teacher sharing that help small, rural districts maximize resources. He touched on equity issues like broadband access and attracting talent to rural areas. Ligoni emphasized the importance of policymakers truly understanding the rural education experience before making decisions. He believes immersive experiences in rural schools would lead to more informed, empathetic policies. Ligoni invites people to learn more at indianasmallworld.org. Michael Crosa helps people across the US to create, distribute, and monetize their podcasts. Learn more at Chattanooga Podcast Studios dot com. He is also the head of the PodNooga Network which can be found on Instagram and Facebook at PodNooga. | — | ||||||
| 1/25/24 |  S03E18 - Dispatches from NFARE Conference in Chattanooga TN (November 15-17, 2023), an interview with Bill Chapman and Jason Bell | Rural education leaders Bill Chapman and Jason Bell were interviewed at the National Forum to Advance Rural Education conference. As members of state and national rural educator associations, they value the quicker impact and tight-knit community support possible in rural schools. Chapman emphasized rural schools' vital role in expanding students' limited worldviews. If he had a "magic wand," Bell would make legislators truly understand rural challenges differ from urban ones when crafting education policies. They encouraged embracing the strengths of rural schools, not just the struggles. Chapman and Bell can be followed on Twitter @Dr_Chap_PISD and @jasonbelltnto continue the rural school's conversation. | — | ||||||
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