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Beyond Meat and the plant-based bloodbath
Apr 29, 2026
20m 02s
PepsiCo embraces (grass-fed) meat as animal protein powers on
Mar 26, 2026
14m 01s
A "real foods" idea breaks out into Trader Joe's and CostCo
Mar 5, 2026
12m 01s
New directions will keep the protein trend powering on
Nov 17, 2025
24m 20s
How to successfully meet the nutritional needs of GLP-1 drug users and keep your sanity and your cash-flow intact
Oct 8, 2025
27m 38s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 4/29/26 | Beyond Meat and the plant-based bloodbath✨ | plant-based substitutesbusiness failure+3 | — | Beyond Meat | California | Beyond Meatplant-based+5 | — | 20m 02s | |
| 3/26/26 | ![]() PepsiCo embraces (grass-fed) meat as animal protein powers on | No-one predicted that meat snacks would become one of the biggest and fastest-growing categories in the American supermarket, totally aligned with the needs of the health-conscious consumer. Nor did anyone imagine that "grass-fed" would be one of the messages that some consumers would value most, alongside the word "protein". Demand for grass-fed is quietly growing. Sales of grass-fed beef in the US are measured in billions and were up 35% last year. So perhaps it's no surprise that PepsiCo is getting into the grass-fed beef snack business. OK, so at NNB we did in fact predict, back in 2020, that meat snacks would grow, so we're taking a lap for that one. But we didn't get the PepsiCo prediction. Time: 14 minutes | 14m 01s | ||||||
| 3/5/26 | ![]() A "real foods" idea breaks out into Trader Joe's and CostCo | Long overlooked as a wacky concept that was only successful in Australia and China, A2 dairy is breaking out. A2 is showing up in mainstream supermarkets from LA to Barcelona, in foodservice and now in one of Nestlé's biggest brands in Asia. A2's "feel the benefit" effect for people who want digestive wellness, plus its heritage of "farming as it used to be" and its "real food" identity are a powerful combination which is driving change and 30% annual sales growth.Time: 12 minutes | 12m 01s | ||||||
| 11/17/25 | ![]() New directions will keep the protein trend powering on | Consumer interest in dairy protein emerged among gym-goers in the 1990s and became mass-market 7 years ago. In this podcast, we introduce two emergent strategies from our annual 10 Key Trends report that explain why consumer demand for dairy protein will keep growing for many years to come. One strategy is protein quality, an idea that's unknown to consumers but it is dairy's untapped competitive advantage. Danone, Meijiand Nestlé are leading the charge in Asia, introducing the message of protein quality tothe influential sports and fitness consumers. The other is creatine, a long-established, science-backed sports supplement now crossing over into foods, with emerging benefits for muscle, energy and cognition. Pioneering brands are blending creatine and high-quality protein. Opportunities for innovation will surge. Time: 25 minutes | 24m 20s | ||||||
| 10/8/25 | ![]() How to successfully meet the nutritional needs of GLP-1 drug users and keep your sanity and your cash-flow intact | We made this podcast to help food producers work out how to meet the needs of people using GLP-1a drugs. It goes past the hype that you hear from consulting firms. We explore the nuances and show what you can do to reduce your risks (and the risks are real) using real-world examples. It also covers: 1. Why GLP-1 is one of only six drivers changing people's consumption habits (and not the most important one) 2. Which categories are struggling and which are growing. 3. Why GLP-1a may decline from where it is and how to manage that risk so that your business still survives and thrives. Time: 28 minutes. | 27m 38s | ||||||
| 8/19/25 | ![]() Is nutrition and health the Achilles-heel of animal-free dairy proteins? | Billions of dollars have been invested by companies using precision fermentation to make "animal-free" dairy proteins in a factory. Around 40 companies are aiming to replace large parts of the dairy industry and they claim that their alt proteins behave in the same way in the human body as real dairy proteins. However, a recently published scientific study suggest that these animal-free proteins in fact don't. They may have a different effect on the gut and immunity. Meanwhile no alt protein company has been able to produce a single study that backs up their claim of equivalence to the natural dairy matrix. Time: 16 minutes | 16m 10s | ||||||
| 7/16/25 | ![]() The unstoppable rise of "grass-fed" dairy and meat | For a growing number of consumers "grass-fed" is one of the strongest health and sustainability messages. So it's no surprise that demand for foods from grass-fed sources is growing steadily. In the US, for example, sales of grass-fed meat are three times those of the much-hyped plant-based substitutes and grew by 31% last year. And at least one former vegan ice cream brand is now thriving by offering grass-fed dairy ice cream. If you are thinking about the future of food, this development and what it says about humans is one you have to understand. Time: 25 minutes | 25m 38s | ||||||
| 6/10/25 | ![]() A small cup of coffee history | Our first podcast about food history. Why history? Because if you're involved in producing food and in innovation, it's good to have a handle on the history of food and the timeless lessons about humans that food history can teach us - and that we can still apply today. Time: 15 minutes | 15m 04s | ||||||
| 4/4/25 | ![]() As people switch to eggs and protein is it the end of big breakfast cereal brands? | A fall in the breakfast cereal market in Europe has led to Nestlé closing a factory, with the loss of hundreds of jobs. It's an illustration of what happens when consumer trends reach a tipping point. Rising consumer preferences for eggs, dairy protein and health-centred, small entrepreneurial brands have sealed the fate of traditional breakfast cereals. More in this podcast. Time: 14 minutes | 14m 03s | ||||||
| 11/26/24 | ![]() Red meat is reborn & dairy protein growth hits double-digits as consumers embrace animal protein | Animal protein has become the most important growth trend in the business of food, nutrition and health. Consumer demand for dairy protein has been growing strongly – witness surging demand for cottage cheese – and red meat is now on the same path. Meat snacks are a hugely successful category in the supermarket, and one of the fastest-growing brands in America is a meat snack. Consumers are putting the brakes on meat-reducing, veganism is shrinking back to its niche, and cardiologists and doctors are re-thinking the role of red meat in a healthy diet. We're not alone in spotting rising demand for animal protein; Whole Foods Market, the leading natural foods retail chain in the US, reports that health-conscious consumers are now prioritizing animal protein. But how is this possible, after years of plant-based push? Dairy protein and red meat tick many boxes for consumers: “real” whole foods, nutrient-dense, versatile and good-tasting. Tune in to learn more! Time: 38 minutes | 38m 33s | ||||||
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| 10/28/24 | ![]() A trend shift trips up a market leader - and will wipe out mycoprotein meat | Quorn has been - for over 30 years - the case study that everyone in the food industry can learn from. Quorn's successful creation of a new category, based on patented technology, was a rare and inspiring example. Now it's a case study of how, when consumer trends turn, even successful businesses can hit trouble. Despite that, Quorn can still have a future. But for the many companies who have invested hundreds of millions of dollar to copy Quorn's mycoprotein meat substitute technology, the outlook is bleak. Time: 16 minutes | 16m 49s | ||||||
| 9/17/24 | ![]() Traditional foods reinvented: what humans want most | Humans don't want to eat technology. They prefer to eat real food. That's why the most successful strategy in the food industry, for the past 25 years, has been taking traditional foods and adapting them to the needs of modern consumers. One of the best examples is in Japan, where falling sales of tofu were reversed by a company figuring out how to reinvent tofu as a convenient and good-tasting snack for younger consumers. It's a strategy that also explains the success of Greek yoghurt, skyr, kefir and many others. This podcast sets out the success factors for reinventing a traditional food. Time: 19 minutes | 19m 33s | ||||||
| 2/21/24 | ![]() Seven Steps for Success in the business of food, nutrition and health | Do you want to know how to create a successful healthier food product? Here are my favourite Seven Steps for Success, created as a result of our 20+ years of research, creating case studies and advising companies. Take these into account and you will be making a good start! Time: 20 minutes | 20m 37s | ||||||
| 11/21/23 | ![]() Beyond Meat: beyond hope. Is it all over for ”plant meats”? | The failure of the meat substitute business will be the must-read case study for the next decade. It shows what happens when companies make assumptions about consumers and their motivations instead of doing deep research and thinking. It shows what happens when products fail the taste test. And it shows what happens when you don't give anyone a compelling reason to buy your product. As the economic outlook darkens, the future isn't bright for this stumbling category. Time: 11 minutes | 11m 50s | ||||||
| 10/25/23 | ![]() Why mainstream media is not a credible source of information | A press release from Harvard stated that a new study had found that consuming meat increases your risk of diabetes. It was reproduced - almost word-for-word - by hundreds of media outlets within a few hours of its publication. Did the media follow up and report the tens of nutrition experts who raised question marks over the study? Not so much. When the media slavishly reproduces a press release right after publication it tells you that the journalists haven't actually read the study or done any investigation. Research by New Nutrition Business found that's normal practice now in mainstream media, much of which exists to reproduce press releases. And that means they are often producing misinformation. Time: 15 minutes | 15m 16s | ||||||
| 10/4/23 | ![]() Lessons in innovation from three probiotic success stories | This podcast provides lessons you can use about innovation, new health benefits and reinventing a traditional food, told through the frame of three probiotic success stories. One is the story of how a trusted brand in Japan brought a sleep and anxiety benefit and created the most successful product launch - anywhere in the world - of the last 20 years. Two are from the US, where innovative and hard-working Turkish and Russian immigrants used tradition and technology to create something totally new for Americans. Time: 25 minutes | 23m 56s | ||||||
| 8/8/23 | ![]() China business goes sour, US stalls, Oatly’s future looking bleak | Oatly's classic Silicon-valley inspired business model from 2012 is facing nemesis. Oatly aimed to get to $1 billion in sales. Unfortunately, in focusing on a big sales number the company seems to have forgotten that it's a good idea to make a profit now and again. In the first six months of 2023 each $1 of product it sold cost it $1.38 to make. With the oat milk business changing and the global economy facing tough times, it's hard to see when, if ever, Oatly can get to break-even. Time: 20 minutes. | 20m 11s | ||||||
| 7/20/23 | ![]() Lab-made meat - another avalanche of hype? | Billionaire investors, most of the media, and many environmental activists insist that we will soon all be eating cell-cultivated meat - a substance more commonly referred to as lab meat. Arguments are raging about the technology, its scalability, cost and regulation. But ultimately the decision about whether lab-meat succeeds lies solely in the hands of the consumer. And the evidence from real-world consumer behaviour isn't looking too good for the lab-meat promoters. Time: 24 minutes. | 24m 30s | ||||||
| 7/5/23 | ![]() The biggest failure in food industry history - part 2 | The fantasies of investors have collided with the reality of the supermarket. We are witnessing the long, slow death of the plant-based meat alternatives category. It was the creation of billionaire investors who want to force a 'protein transition' in order to make another billion. In the US and UK sales are falling, despite the billions invested, because the finance bros never bothered to understand the technology or the consumer. Time: 26 mins. | 26m 07s | ||||||
| 5/5/23 | ![]() Nutriflaw? The 10 ways that Europe’s Nutri-Score fails | Nuti-Score is a European front of pack labelling scheme which ranks the healthiness of foods on a scale from A (most healthy) to E (least healthy). It's backed by governments in Germany and France. But it's opposed in Italy and Greece. Why? Could it be because it ranks many traditional foods in the Mediterranean diet as D or E? Or could it be because it ranks whole milk (C) as less healthy than Coke Zero (B)? Nutri-Score is flawed. And the evidence suggests that it may not be of much - or any - benefit for public health. It may be the world’s best example of how public health experts’ greatest expertise appears to lie in undermining their own credibility. | 28m 37s | ||||||
| 9/23/22 | ![]() The biggest failure in food industry history? | We are witnessing what may be the biggest-ever failure in food industry history. The Silicon Valley idea that you can 'grow sales and profits will follow' has slammed into the reality of the food business. Plant-based meat substitute makers have made every strategy mistake in the How-to-Fail Handbook. Sales are falling. Most meat substitute makers are losing money. Products failed to meet consumer taste expectations. They couldn't even prove that they were 'more sustainable'. An echo chamber of investors, consultants and media pushed the idea that 20-ingredient substitutes would have us all ditching meat - and that plant meat companies would be worth billions. But reality turned out to be the opposite of what the billionaire investors thought would happen. Time: 23 minutes. | 22m 56s | ||||||
| 4/21/22 | ![]() An (industry) insider’s view: Oats crush nuts | Oat milk is big and its success is admired! It's the fastest-growing segment of the US plant milk market. Sales jumped by an impressive 72% in 2021. But two-thirds of oat milk's growth came not from taking business from dairy milk, but by taking sales away from other plant milks. Almond, coconut and others all fell in 2021. Meanwhile, there's an even bigger and more successful product than oat - lactose-free dairy milk. It's growing faster than oat and is bigger than any type of plant milk. Time: 10 minutes. | 10m 34s | ||||||
| 4/7/22 | ![]() An (industry) insider’s view: the plant-based dairy boom is coming to an end | Plant-based dairy is settling down as a niche business – contrary to what consultants and the media have been telling you. There's nothing wrong with being niche! But exaggerated claims that 'plant-based will replace dairy' always ignored food culture and food science, and the simple fact that most plant-based dairy just doesn't taste good enough. This week I focus on plant-based yoghurt and ice-cream, where sales growth is slowing sharply, and look at how plant-based under-performance has already cost one CEO his job. Time: 10 minutes. | 10m 05s | ||||||
| 3/24/22 | ![]() Beyond Meat, beyond hope? | Billionaire investors thought they could 'disrupt' livestock farming. They thought that meat substitutes would be an easy way to make their next billion. But they are having a shock encounter with reality. Consumers see meat substitutes as expensive novelties and are sticking with beef and lamb. As a result, losses are up - by 240% - at Beyond, the best-known brand in the substitute sector. Beyond's US retail sales fell by 20% at the end of 2021. Will Beyond become one of the biggest failures in food industry history? | 16m 06s | ||||||
| 2/9/22 | ![]() “Jam tomorrow” business models are toast | If you want your business to succeed in health and nutrition it’s important to understand economics as much as nutrition science and consumer sentiment. Over the next 18 months we will see the chickens come home to roost for businesses that have neglected to focus on creating a successful economic model. | 16m 19s | ||||||
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