Why Climate Denial Feels So Good

Why Climate Denial Feels So Good

From Non-Toxic by Daniel Penny

January 23, 2026 · 13 min

About this episode

Daniel Penny interviews Richard Seymour about disaster nationalism and its implications in various countries.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit nontoxicpodcast.substack.com In this subscriber-only episode, I talk to writer and broadcaster Richard Seymour about his recent book Disaster Nationalism. Richard breaks down how his concept of disaster nationalism is different from the Coke Classic version of nationalism, and how real and imaginary disasters play into the hands of the far-right. We get into how to exploit social crises and conspiracies and what role masculinity plays in this pyschic morass. And in case you’re sick of hearing about Trump, we zoom out to discuss how all this is playing out beyond the US, touching on disaster nationalist movements in India, Brazil, Hungary, and more. It’s a real corker! Want to learn more? You can buy a copy of Richard’s book through Verso . He’s also the author of numerous other books about politics, including Corbyn: The Strange Rebirth of Radical Politics and The Twittering Machine . His writing appears in the The New York Times , the London Review of Books , the Guardian , Prospect , Jacobin , and lots of other places. Want to listen to the whole episode? The discourse won’t detoxify itself. To keep the show going…

People in this episode

Host: Daniel Penny

Guest: Richard Seymour

Topics covered

  • climate denial
  • disaster nationalism
  • far-right politics
  • social crises
  • masculinity
  • global movements

Keywords

  • climate denial
  • disaster nationalism
  • far-right
  • social crises
  • masculinity
  • politics
  • global movements

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: The New York Times, London Review of Books, the Guardian, Prospect, Jacobin

Books & works: Disaster Nationalism

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