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| 4/10/26 | 154. Scheduled “Ground Week”: Perspectives from a New Routine at HETRA | Don't be afraid to try new things! This week on the podcast we are talking about a new policy we implemented at HETRA - scheduled "ground weeks". During this week, all participants who participate in a mounted program move to ground based activities for the week. This gives our horses a break and our participants new opportunities to grow in their skills. Listen in to hear how we implemented this new routine and what fun, different things our instructors and therapists were up to during this week! Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinksLearn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/ | — | ||||||
| 3/28/26 | 153. Replay: What Goes Into Thorough Participant Evaluation? | We’re bringing back one of our favorite “oldie but goodie” episodes—because the topic is that important. Thoughtful, thorough evaluation of incoming participants is a cornerstone of success in equine-assisted services, not only for the individuals we serve, but for our instructors, volunteers, and horses, too. In this replay, Edye Godden, OTR/L, HPCS, PATH Intl. CTRI and CEO of HETRA, shares her perspective on why evaluations are such a critical piece of the puzzle and breaks down the most common barriers that prevent programs from doing them well. From time constraints to uncertainty about what to look for, we explore what might be getting in the way—and how improving this process can lead to safer, more effective, and more impactful sessions for everyone involved.Check out all of education HETRA University here, including our disability education offerings! www.HETRAUniversity.orgLearn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/ | — | ||||||
| 3/21/26 | 152. Five Things Every EAS Professional Should Know About Seizures | Seizures are more common than many people realize—and in equine-assisted services, being prepared can make all the difference. In this episode, we break down five essential things every EAS professional should understand about seizures, from recognition to response, so you can create a safer, more confident environment for your participants, staff, and horses.Learn more details about Seizures and how they impact us in the EAS industry in the webinar: “Understanding Seizures: Balancing Safety with Inclusivity”. https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/offers/rsL2VZTL/checkoutLearn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/ | — | ||||||
| 3/13/26 | 151. When the Stars Align: Thoughts on Research, Education and Real Experiences | In this episode, we welcome back Edye Godden to reflect on two recent events that sparked important conversations in the EAS industry: the Horses and Humans Research Foundation Conference and HETRA University Live. We discovered that themes from both events aligned—showing that new research is beginning to support the real-world experiences and educational approaches many programs are already implementing.We also share how attending conferences like these continues to shape our thinking at HETRA, including a few policy updates prompted by ongoing learning and a commitment to evolving with best practices in the field.Learn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/ | — | ||||||
| 2/27/26 | 150. The Next Generation of EAS Leaders: What do they want? | In this episode, we welcome back Jeff Arnold, Founder of Leadership Adventures, for a powerful conversation about what it really takes to build the next generation of leaders in the EAS industry. Expect to here more on:When we talk about “next generation leaders,” we’re talking about all of us. What the Next Generation of EAL Leaders Actually WantsAfter surveying and working with more than 60 centers, Jeff and his team have identified clear patterns in what emerging leaders are looking for:Clear expectations (at both the big-picture and daily-task level)Coaching and developmental feedbackDefined growth paths and career planningAuthentic community and collaborationCuriosity builds engagement. Judgment shuts it down.Staying Resilient Leadership in a Changing World. With leadership transitions happening across 20-, 30-, and 40-year-old centers, resilience isn’t optional—it’s essential.Resources:The EAL Community of Practice Jeff shares more about the growing EAL Community of Practice, an online professional space designed for collaboration, CEUs, shared learning, and authentic dialogue across methodologies. Learn more at: equineassistedlearning.org2026 EAL Summit – Learn. Share. Lead. The next EAL Summit will take place in November 2026 in the Western Pennsylvania mountains. Abstract submissions are open now through mid-to-late March. More details: equineassistedlearning.orgListen to the NJAPR episode 87 with Jeff here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jzeTIwz1WIFKQ4bZoxyFA?si=Rmi3hLc3Qjyr4NSr14CcwAJoin us for HETRA University Live online or in person March 6-7: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward | — | ||||||
| 2/20/26 | 149. How do we fund our horses? Campaign and Sponsorship Ideas | In equine-assisted services, our horses make everything possible—but funding their care can be one of the biggest ongoing challenges programs face. In this episode, Edye Godden CEO of HETRA shares practical, sustainable ways to fund the horses who serve our participants, including campaigns and sponsorship models that are impactful without placing constant demands on staff time. A highlight of the conversation is HETRA’s creative and highly successful Horse of the Year Race—a campaign that has become instrumental in funding horse care while building meaningful relationships with donors. This episode is full of realistic ideas, mindset shifts, and proven strategies to help you support your herd in a way that’s both effective and sustainable.Get access to HETRA’s sponsorship levels and details at Patreon: patreon.com/notjustaponyrideEdye’s Trail to Sustainability Mini Course:https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseJoin us for HETRA University Live online or inperson March 6-7: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward | — | ||||||
| 2/9/26 | 148. Insurance for EAS Centers: Trends and Important Questions with Killian Insurance | Are you asking all the right questions when it comes to coverage for your EAS centers? Don't get caught in a loop hole without coverage! Jonathan Killian with Killian Insurance Agency is back on the podcast to help us understand this complex topic. Jon is sharing what he's learned and trends he has noticed since he started specializing in coverage for equine assisted services. Tune in to episode #93 to hear more from Jonathan about coverage for EAS. https://spotifycreators-web.app.link/e/GFruiXo0C0bConnect with Jon and Killian Insurance Agency! https://farmequineinsurance.com/HETRA University Live Workshop, March 6-7 in Gretna, NE Get more details including the detailed agenda and register now! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 1/31/26 | 147. Making a Change in Your Center? It's more complicated than we thought! | n this episode, Shelby and Kaiti unpack a realization that genuinely surprised them. Of all the education we have provided recently around equine welfare, we assumed the biggest hurdle would be whether people wanted to make changes and what changes to make. What we discovered instead was something very different — and much heavier. Most people do want to improve welfare practices, but feel stuck behind barriers that seem out of their control.We talk honestly about what those barriers look like in the real world: leadership resistance, lack of buy-in, tight budgets, and the quiet frustration of knowing better but feeling unable to do better. This conversation isn’t about blame or finger-pointing — it’s about naming the reality so many professionals are living in and validating that tension.This led us to build the curriculum that we did with the upcoming HETRA University Live Workshop, March 6-7 in Gretna, NE Get more details including the detailed agenda and register now! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward Link for more information and to join us in the new mini course: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 1/17/26 | 146. Seizure Disclosure Form | In this episode we walk through the Seizure Disclosure Form and policies used at HETRA, explaining not just what we ask, but why it matters. This conversation is designed to support transparency, safety, and collaboration. We talk through how seizure information helps staff make informed decisions that protect participants, horses, and everyone involved—without creating unnecessary barriers to participation.In this episode, we cover:What information families are asked to share—and how it’s usedHow PATH Intl. standards influence mounted participation decisionsWhen riding may be paused and what alternative programming can look likeHow HETRA communicates seizure-related information respectfully and appropriately to staff and volunteersThe balance between risk management, inclusion, and participant dignityAs always, we share our forms and policies as examples, not prescriptions—and encourage every center to adapt them to their own program needs with appropriate legal guidance.Get a copy of HETRA’s Seizure Disclosure Form here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/SeizureDisclosureFormRegister for the ‘Understanding Seizures in EAS’ webinar happening March 12, 2026 at 12:00PM CT: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/offers/RbtDggGP/checkout | — | ||||||
| 1/9/26 | 145. Staying Respectfully Curious with HHRF | The first installment of a quarterly check in with HHRF! We’re joined by HHRF CEO, Pebbles Turbeville and 3 members of the HHRF community: Jo, Justin and Elizabeth. This episode is an honest exploration of how research, lived experience, and open-minded dialogue can (and should) coexist. We talk about the tension many of us feel between “this is how I’ve always done it” and “what if there’s more to learn here?”—especially when it comes to horse welfare, human outcomes, and best practices that continue to evolve. We challenge you to examine how experience can be both a strength and a blind spot, and why curiosity—rooted in respect, not judgment—is essential for moving our industry forward. You’ll hear reflections on:What “respectful curiosity” looks like in practiceWhy research isn’t meant to replace experience—but to deepen itHow staying open can improve outcomes for both horses and humansThe value of gathering diverse voices in one learning spaceHHRF Conference, Kissimmee, FL Feb 28-March 1: https://www.horsesandhumans.org/conferencesLink for more information about the NEW mini course launching January 15: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
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| 12/29/25 | SHORT 144. Five Things I Would Tell My Younger Executive Director Self… | What would you tell yourself if you could go back to your earliest days as an executive director?In this episode, Edye Godden—CEO of HETRA and a leader in equine-assisted services for over 30 years—shares five lessons she wishes she’d known sooner. Drawing from her experience, Edye offers grounded, honest insight for executive directors, program leaders, and emerging nonprofit professionals. Edye’s conversation blends practical leadership wisdom with the perspective of someone who has stayed rooted in mission, people, and horses—while navigating real-world challenges.Link for more information about the NEW mini course launching January 15: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 12/22/25 | 143. REPLAY Positive Culture in EAS Staff with Edye Godden, CEO | In the replay of this popular episode, HETRA CEO Edye Godden is sharing with us how HETRA manages a healthy work culture. Tune in for real-world tools and reflections to help you lead with intention and keep what matters most at the center. Hear what tools we have used for staff development too!:Clifton Strengths Finder Gretchen Rubin’s ‘Four Tendencies’ Quiz: https://gretchenrubin.com/quiz/the-four-tendencies-quiz/Stay Interview - Get the copy of our questions on Patreon! patreon.com/notjustaponyrideLink for more information about the NEW mini course launching January 15: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 12/5/25 | 142. Anticipatory Balance - both horses and humans have it! | In this episode, we dive into the fascinating concept of anticipatory balance—the body’s ability to predict movement before it happens. It’s a skill that both humans and horses rely on constantly, and in Equine-Assisted Services, it becomes a crucial part of safety, function, and performance. We explore how anticipatory balance develops, how it keeps us from getting injured, and what happens when it’s impaired. Key Topics CoveredWhat is anticipatory balance?How humans use anticipatory balance in everyday life and ridingHow equines shift, brace, and stabilize their bodies in anticipation of rider movement, terrain changes, or herd dynamics.Register now for the Balancing the Scales Mini Course here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/BalancingTheScalesMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 11/29/25 | SHORT 141. This Isn’t “Equine Therapy” - Edye Breaks Down Real Terms & Real Work | In this new series of short episodes - we hear from Edye Godden, OT, CTRI & HETRA’s CEO, for a candid conversation about language, ethics, and professionalism in EAS. Too often, well-intended phrases or flashy-looking credentials can blur lines, misrepresent our field, and ultimately undermine the work we’re all here to do. This episode digs into some big topics, including: Language matters—it defines what we do and adds credibility to our industry. Horses are partners, not “tools” or something we “use.” Being skeptical of new social media and AI “certifications” or “advanced trainings”. Stay in your lane & stay out of trouble Clear terminology protects you, your program, and the entire EAS industry.Get the terminology paper Edye was referencing on our Patreon page! patreon.com/notjustaponyrideRegister now for the NEW MINI COURSE Launching December 1st: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/BalancingTheScalesMiniCourse | — | ||||||
| 11/21/25 | 140. 10 Ways we Use our Equicizer in EAS | In this episode, we dive into one of the most versatile tools in our program—the Equicizer, our mechanical horse who works just as hard as our live herd. Whether he’s helping participants who aren’t quite ready for a live horse or being your ambassador at a marketing event, the Equicizer plays a vital role the sustainability of our center. Join us as we break down 10 ways we utilize our “EQ” to support safety, skill-building, creativity, and accessibility. Apply to receive an Equicizer now! Application closes March 15th. https://www.jotform.com/form/253005782163150Listen to Frankie Lovato’s episode, #26. The Equicizer: It’s Not Just a Wooden Horse with Frankie Lovato or click here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3enFDCq86hrRZ8mvYAzKb0?si=tzqhUNP-QwSZntA-F1xrdgLearn more about the Equicizer at www.equicizer.com | — | ||||||
| 11/14/25 | 139. Live! - Does Balanced vs. Unbalanced Rider Ability Matter for Equine Weight Limits? | Live from the PATH Intl. International Conference – Denver, CO!In this special episode recorded live in front of a studio audience, we dive into a lively and thought-provoking group discussion on one of the most frequently debated topics in equine-assisted services: How do we define a “balanced rider,” and what impact does that definition have on setting equine weight limits?Join us as a panel of experienced instructors, therapists, and equine professionals unpack the nuances of rider balance — exploring physical, sensory, and emotional components that influence how weight is carried and distributed by the horse.Our guests and audience members share their insights on:The many factors that go beyond the number on the scale when determining safe and ethical weight limitsHow movement, tone, and stability affect equine welfare and performanceRegister now for the NEW MINI COURSE Launching December 1st: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/BalancingTheScalesMiniCourseGo to our social media to see the pressure map impact of a cell phone in your back pocket while riding courtesy of Centaur Biomechanics! | — | ||||||
| 11/1/25 | 138. Gravitational Insecurity and Fear While Mounted | In this episode, Kaiti Otte, OTD, OTR/L, PATH Intl. CTRI, builds on a topic recently explored in our Neurodivergent Mini Course—understanding how the vestibular system and gravitational insecurity can impact our participants’ experience. The question came up in our live office hours discussion that was part of the live course course. Join us for the mini course at any time if you want to better understand how to support neurodivergent participants so they can truly thrive, not just get by.Today, we take that discussion into the arena, looking specifically at how vestibular system sensitivity can create fear of heights or movement in adaptive riding settings. As instructors, recognizing and responding to these challenges can make all the difference in helping riders feel safe, supported, and successful. We examine how to make adaptations to maximize independence in horsemanship for participants who may struggle with this sensitivity. Join us in the Neurodivergent Mini Course now! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/NeurodivergentEducationFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 11/1/25 | 137. Partnering with a Hospital for Equine Assisted Therapy with Rachel Elder of Agape | In this episode, we’re joined by Rachel Elder, PATH Intl. CTRI, CHA IRD, and Program Director at Agape in Cicero, Indiana, to explore the inner workings and far-reaching influence of Agape’s programs. Rachel shares insights into how Agape’s hippotherapy program operates through a unique hospital partnership, the interconnected nature of their equine-assisted services, and the organization’s legacy as it approaches its 40th anniversary.What You’ll Hear in This Episode:Hippotherapy Program Logistics & Partnerships. Rachel explains how Agape’s hippotherapy program is offered through a contracted partnership with a local hospital, allowing therapists and students to integrate real clinical experiences in an equine environment—bridging healthcare and horsemanship in powerful ways.The Interconnectedness of Our Programs. Learn how Agape’s programs—hippotherapy, therapeutic riding, equine-assisted learning, and mobile outreach—are designed to complement one another. Rachel discusses how participants often transition from hippotherapy to therapeutic riding, continuing their progress and building confidence in new and meaningful ways that support physical, emotional, and social development.Our Statewide Impact & Legacy. As Agape celebrates nearly 40 years of service, Rachel reflects on how the organization’s leadership and innovation have influenced nearly every equine-assisted services center in Indiana. It’s a story of collaboration, mentorship, and legacy—how one program’s success can lift and inspire an entire community.Learn more about Agape and reach Rachel at www.agaperiding.orgFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 10/10/25 | 136. Horses as Partners in Mental Health | On this episode we are honoring World Mental Health Day. The overall objective of World Mental Health Day is to raise awareness of mental health issues around the world and to mobilize efforts in support of mental health. I’m honored to share the work that HETRA does through our mental health services partnering with horses and on this episode to help spread the word is mental health therapist Kelli Hatzenbuehler. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, contact a mental health professional near you or call the national suicide prevention lifeline, 988.Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 10/3/25 | 135. Evaluating Potential EAS Horses | You have identified a potential horse for your program and you’re ready to go take a look. What you do at this initial visit is a pivotal part of setting your new herd members up for success. What do you do while you’re there? How do you do a thorough investigation of their behaviors and medical status? Join us to hear how we do it at HETRA including some policies that we have that help save time, money and keep great herd prospects coming through our barn doors! Potential HETRA Horse Form: https://hetra.org/donate/horse-donation.htmlEquine Welfare Mini Course: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/EASEquineWelfareMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 9/19/25 | 134. TEN TIPS for Improving Working Memory for EAS Participants | For many participants in equine-assisted services (EAS), challenges with memory can impact everything from following multi-step directions to staying engaged in a session. We’ll explore 10 practical, research-based tips for strengthening working memory that you can start using right away in your arena. Register now for the Neurodivergent Mini Course: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/NeurodivergentEducation | — | ||||||
| 9/6/25 | 133. Emergency Dismounts in EAS: What’s your Plan of Action? | In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we’re talking about one of the most critical skills for every Equine-Assisted Services team—emergency dismounts. Whether it’s a sudden horse reaction, a participant complication, or an environmental hazard, having a clear plan of action can make all the difference in keeping participants, volunteers, and horses safe. Expect to hear conversation around: Creating a plan of action – why it’s essential and how to ensure every team member knows their roleEmergency Dismount Scenarios – What if your rider is independent? What if a horse is loose? What if There are other teams in the arena? Practice & preparedness – how to build confidence so that everyone can act quickly and safely when it matters most. Plan of Action emergency dismount example is available on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/notjustaponyrideLearn more about the EAS Workshop, HETRA University Live: Level Up and Lead! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/hul-level-up-landingFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 8/30/25 | 132. Pairing Horses & Riders: Movement & Conformation | In this episode, we explore how a horse’s unique conformation and natural movement patterns directly influence the rider’s experience, posture, and progress. Kaiti Otte, OT will discuss why we may pair different participants with certain horses including how different diagnoses and impairments may impact those decisions. Learn more about the EAS Workshop, HETRA University Live: Level Up and Lead! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/hul-level-up-landingFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
| 8/22/25 | 131. Safety Stirrups: What options are right for your center? | The world of equine-assisted services is always evolving—and sometimes that means letting go of long-standing tools we’ve relied on for years. In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we dive into the recent ban on peacock stirrups, a staple in many EAS programs, and explore what this change means for safety, accessibility, and your organization’s budget. We’ll discuss:Why peacock stirrups are being phased out and the safety concerns behind the decision.Alternative stirrup options now available for adaptive and therapeutic riding.The financial impact of making the switch and how to plan for it.Strategies for managing change within your staff, volunteers, and participants.Tips for fundraising and budgeting to cover equipment updates.Get our tips and example verbiage we used to apply for a grant to replace our peacock stirrups over on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/notjustaponyrideCheck out options for safety stirrups and LOTS more at https://freedomrider.com/ | — | ||||||
| 8/8/25 | 130. Maintaining the Senior Horse - REPLAY | In this replay from episode #21, we’re diving into maintaining our Steady Eddy’s. We all have them and we love them - but how do we balance keeping them happy, healthy, sane and sound with our budget? Shelby Schult, HETRA’s Program Director explains how we do that at HETRA including discussing conditioning regimens, vet work, nutrition supplements and more. GLC Joint Supplement: https://kbchorsesupplies.com/glc-direct/Equine Sustainability Mini Course: https://hetra.org/education/register-for-webinars.htmlThis episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider: https://freedomrider.com/Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks | — | ||||||
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