Not Just A Pony Ride

Change is in the air, and we couldn't be more excited! In this episode, we are pulling back the curtain to introduce the newest voice behind the mic. Join us as we officially welcome Emma to the team as our new podcast host!We sit down with Emma to talk about her background, her passion for Equine-Assisted Services (EAS), and what she is most looking forward to bringing to the show. Whether you are an industry professional, a dedicated volunteer, or a long-time listener, tune in to help us give Emma a warm welcome to the community!Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/...

Waitlists are common in EAS programs—but are they always being defined and managed effectively? In this episode, we dive into one of the most important (and often frustrating) operational topics for centers: the waitlist.At HETRA, someone is not considered officially on the waitlist until all required paperwork is complete and they have been evaluated by staff. That means they are truly ready to begin programming as soon as an appropriate opening becomes available. We discuss why this distinction matters and how separating general inquiries from those ready to get on the schedule can create a more accurate picture of demand.We also cover practical strategies for keeping your waitlist organized, including systems for tracking readiness, participant needs, scheduling preferences, and priority placement. Learn how to think creatively about offering meaningful opportunities while participants wait for their ideal program opening. Whether it’s alternate services, short-term options, or different program formats, there are ways to continue serving participants instead of letting them sit stagnant on a list. In This Episode, We Answer:What truly constitutes being “on the waitlist”?How does HETRA define waitlist status?What is the difference between an inquiry and a “ready to be scheduled” participant?How can you provide value while someone waits for a program opening?What systems help keep a waitlist organized and actionable?Who should take priority when openings become available?HETRA Participant Inquiry Form: https://form.jotform.com/242865356075161More on Our Evaluation Process at HETRA: Episode #153 - What Goes Into a Thorough Participant Evaluation? https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/notjustaponyride/episodes/153---Replay--What-Goes-Into-Thorough-Participant-Evaluation-e3h30jd/a-acibs2vGet help with organizing your waitlist - www.equi-force.comLearn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/

We’re bringing back one of our favorite “oldie but goodie” episodes—because the topic is that important. Thoughtful, thorough evaluation of incoming participants is a cornerstone of success in equine-assisted services, not only for the individuals we serve, but for our instructors, volunteers, and horses, too. In this replay, Edye Godden, OTR/L, HPCS, PATH Intl. CTRI and CEO of HETRA, shares her perspective on why evaluations are such a critical piece of the puzzle and breaks down the most common barriers that prevent programs from doing them well. From time constraints to uncertainty about what to look for, we explore what might be getting in the way—and how improving this process can lead to safer, more effective, and more impactful sessions for everyone involved.Check out all of education HETRA University here, including our disability education offerings! www.HETRAUniversity.orgLearn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/

In this episode, we welcome back Edye Godden to reflect on two recent events that sparked important conversations in the EAS industry: the Horses and Humans Research Foundation Conference and HETRA University Live. We discovered that themes from both events aligned—showing that new research is beginning to support the real-world experiences and educational approaches many programs are already implementing.We also share how attending conferences like these continues to shape our thinking at HETRA, including a few policy updates prompted by ongoing learning and a commitment to evolving with best practices in the field.Learn more about Killian Insurance Agency and what Jon can do for you here: https://farmequineinsurance.com/

In equine-assisted services, our horses make everything possible—but funding their care can be one of the biggest ongoing challenges programs face. In this episode, Edye Godden CEO of HETRA shares practical, sustainable ways to fund the horses who serve our participants, including campaigns and sponsorship models that are impactful without placing constant demands on staff time. A highlight of the conversation is HETRA’s creative and highly successful Horse of the Year Race—a campaign that has become instrumental in funding horse care while building meaningful relationships with donors. This episode is full of realistic ideas, mindset shifts, and proven strategies to help you support your herd in a way that’s both effective and sustainable.Get access to HETRA’s sponsorship levels and details at Patreon: patreon.com/notjustaponyrideEdye’s Trail to Sustainability Mini Course:https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseJoin us for HETRA University Live online or inperson March 6-7: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward

n this episode, Shelby and Kaiti unpack a realization that genuinely surprised them. Of all the education we have provided recently around equine welfare, we assumed the biggest hurdle would be whether people wanted to make changes and what changes to make. What we discovered instead was something very different — and much heavier. Most people do want to improve welfare practices, but feel stuck behind barriers that seem out of their control.We talk honestly about what those barriers look like in the real world: leadership resistance, lack of buy-in, tight budgets, and the quiet frustration of knowing better but feeling unable to do better. This conversation isn’t about blame or finger-pointing — it’s about naming the reality so many professionals are living in and validating that tension.This led us to build the curriculum that we did with the upcoming HETRA University Live Workshop, March 6-7 in Gretna, NE Get more details including the detailed agenda and register now! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULStridesForward Link for more information and to join us in the new mini course: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

The first installment of a quarterly check in with HHRF! We’re joined by HHRF CEO, Pebbles Turbeville and 3 members of the HHRF community: Jo, Justin and Elizabeth. This episode is an honest exploration of how research, lived experience, and open-minded dialogue can (and should) coexist. We talk about the tension many of us feel between “this is how I’ve always done it” and “what if there’s more to learn here?”—especially when it comes to horse welfare, human outcomes, and best practices that continue to evolve. We challenge you to examine how experience can be both a strength and a blind spot, and why curiosity—rooted in respect, not judgment—is essential for moving our industry forward. You’ll hear reflections on:What “respectful curiosity” looks like in practiceWhy research isn’t meant to replace experience—but to deepen itHow staying open can improve outcomes for both horses and humansThe value of gathering diverse voices in one learning spaceHHRF Conference, Kissimmee, FL Feb 28-March 1: https://www.horsesandhumans.org/conferencesLink for more information about the NEW mini course launching January 15: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

In the replay of this popular episode, HETRA CEO Edye Godden is sharing with us how HETRA manages a healthy work culture. Tune in for real-world tools and reflections to help you lead with intention and keep what matters most at the center. Hear what tools we have used for staff development too!:Clifton Strengths Finder Gretchen Rubin’s ‘Four Tendencies’ Quiz: https://gretchenrubin.com/quiz/the-four-tendencies-quiz/Stay Interview - Get the copy of our questions on Patreon! patreon.com/notjustaponyrideLink for more information about the NEW mini course launching January 15: Trail to Sustainability: Securing Your Programs Future https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/TrailtoSustainabilityMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

In this new series of short episodes - we hear from Edye Godden, OT, CTRI & HETRA’s CEO, for a candid conversation about language, ethics, and professionalism in EAS. Too often, well-intended phrases or flashy-looking credentials can blur lines, misrepresent our field, and ultimately undermine the work we’re all here to do. This episode digs into some big topics, including: Language matters—it defines what we do and adds credibility to our industry. Horses are partners, not “tools” or something we “use.” Being skeptical of new social media and AI “certifications” or “advanced trainings”. Stay in your lane & stay out of trouble Clear terminology protects you, your program, and the entire EAS industry.Get the terminology paper Edye was referencing on our Patreon page! patreon.com/notjustaponyrideRegister now for the NEW MINI COURSE Launching December 1st: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/BalancingTheScalesMiniCourse

Live from the PATH Intl. International Conference – Denver, CO!In this special episode recorded live in front of a studio audience, we dive into a lively and thought-provoking group discussion on one of the most frequently debated topics in equine-assisted services: How do we define a “balanced rider,” and what impact does that definition have on setting equine weight limits?Join us as a panel of experienced instructors, therapists, and equine professionals unpack the nuances of rider balance — exploring physical, sensory, and emotional components that influence how weight is carried and distributed by the horse.Our guests and audience members share their insights on:The many factors that go beyond the number on the scale when determining safe and ethical weight limitsHow movement, tone, and stability affect equine welfare and performanceRegister now for the NEW MINI COURSE Launching December 1st: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/BalancingTheScalesMiniCourseGo to our social media to see the pressure map impact of a cell phone in your back pocket while riding courtesy of Centaur Biomechanics!

In this episode, we’re joined by Rachel Elder, PATH Intl. CTRI, CHA IRD, and Program Director at Agape in Cicero, Indiana, to explore the inner workings and far-reaching influence of Agape’s programs. Rachel shares insights into how Agape’s hippotherapy program operates through a unique hospital partnership, the interconnected nature of their equine-assisted services, and the organization’s legacy as it approaches its 40th anniversary.What You’ll Hear in This Episode:Hippotherapy Program Logistics & Partnerships. Rachel explains how Agape’s hippotherapy program is offered through a contracted partnership with a local hospital, allowing therapists and students to integrate real clinical experiences in an equine environment—bridging healthcare and horsemanship in powerful ways.The Interconnectedness of Our Programs. Learn how Agape’s programs—hippotherapy, therapeutic riding, equine-assisted learning, and mobile outreach—are designed to complement one another. Rachel discusses how participants often transition from hippotherapy to therapeutic riding, continuing their progress and building confidence in new and meaningful ways that support physical, emotional, and social development.Our Statewide Impact & Legacy. As Agape celebrates nearly 40 years of service, Rachel reflects on how the organization’s leadership and innovation have influenced nearly every equine-assisted services center in Indiana. It’s a story of collaboration, mentorship, and legacy—how one program’s success can lift and inspire an entire community.Learn more about Agape and reach Rachel at www.agaperiding.orgFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

You have identified a potential horse for your program and you’re ready to go take a look. What you do at this initial visit is a pivotal part of setting your new herd members up for success. What do you do while you’re there? How do you do a thorough investigation of their behaviors and medical status? Join us to hear how we do it at HETRA including some policies that we have that help save time, money and keep great herd prospects coming through our barn doors! Potential HETRA Horse Form: https://hetra.org/donate/horse-donation.htmlEquine Welfare Mini Course: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/EASEquineWelfareMiniCourseFollow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks