How do you measure success?

From Notre Dame Stories by Notre Dame Stories

March 11, 2026 · 13 min

About this episode

Joe Holt discusses the true meaning of success beyond titles and prestige with host Jenna Liberto.

What does it really mean to be successful? Joe Holt has lived enough lives to make most résumés look boring—including time as a Jesuit priest, a stockbroker, a corporate attorney, and even an Ironman triathlete—and he’s convinced that success can’t be measured by titles, prestige, or what you can show for your work. In this podcast episode, Holt joins host Jenna Liberto, and together they explore why so many people feel disengaged at work, how to set goals that stretch you without burning you out, and why dreaming about the life you want should come before planning it. Holt shares the simple tactics he uses to stay accountable, the difference between a “good” job and a “prestigious” one, and why wisdom—more than achievement—may be the measure that matters most. Along the way, he reflects on faith, stillness, and leaving room for a God of surprises. Listen and subscribe Notre Dame Stories is the official podcast of the University of Notre Dame, wherever you get your podcasts.

People in this episode

Host: Jenna Liberto

Guest: Joe Holt

Topics covered

success
career
goal setting
work engagement
faith
personal growth

Keywords

success
career
goals
disengagement
accountability
wisdom
faith

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: University of Notre Dame