On Brand with Nick Westergaard

When Addison Rae headlined Coachella this year and the crowd lost it to “Fame Is a Gun,” the cultural momentum felt instant. But the social infrastructure behind that track was built months in advance, one creator at a time, by Griffin Haddrill and his team at LV8. By moving past the standard 48-hour launch spike and focusing on an always-on creator strategy, they drove over 80 million views and a staggering 9% engagement rate. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How to move past the standard 48-hour launch spike and build true cultural momentum What a deep, hyper-specific audience mapping approach looks like compared to standard demographic targeting How to build and organize a massive global framework of editors for real-time clipping strategies Why organic marketing and performance marketing must live in separate, equal buckets to scale effectively The real data behind human-led vs. AI-driven creative performance and how it impacts consumer retention Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (04:00) Moving Beyond the 48-Hour Launch Spike (05:29) The Power of Depth in Audience Targeting (07:22) Setting a 9% Engagement Rate Standard (08:31) Capturing Lightning in a Bottle with Speed to Market (09:59) The Underbelly of Social Strategy: Clipping and Global Editors (11:39) Splitting the Buckets: Organic Brand Building vs. Performance Marketing (14:12) The Hidden Impact of AI on Consumer Attention and Retention (18:48) Human-Led Creative vs. AI Performance Data (21:48) The Brand That Made Griffin Smile (22:30) Outro About Griffin Haddrill Griffin Haddrill is the founder of LV8, a Gen Z-founded and led digital-first agency based out of Las Vegas. LV8 specializes in creator-led strategies that drive massive digital culture momentum for music labels and global legacy brands alike. Known for pushing past traditional marketing frameworks, Griffin and his team have orchestrated high-profile lifecycle campaigns for artists like Addison Rae and major entertainment partnerships with Columbia Records. What Brand Has Made Griffin Smile Recently? e.l.f. Cosmetics recently put a massive smile on Griffin’s face with their unexpected Liquid Death collaboration. He loved how two highly unique, disruptive brands came together to create something incredibly fun, cool, and beautifully chaotic for their shared communities. Resources & Links Connect with Griffin on LinkedIn. Check out the LV8 website. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We often treat our attention like a machine to be controlled, focusing only on the metrics that drive immediate results. But we have an attentional health problem. We are starving our organizations of the relational connection they need to truly thrive. Today, the author of The Culture Code, Daniel Coyle, joins us to discuss his new book, Flourish. We are moving beyond the boardroom to explore how we can design environments of belonging, joy, and vitality by shifting our focus from narrow control to deep, human connection. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How to balance narrow focus with relational attention to improve your attentional health Why embracing a certain level of friction and annoyance is the essential price of building real community The leadership play of framing horizons and guardrails rather than dictating specific answers How to move from a culture of coercion to one of curiosity by asking the simple question what is your story Why the most effective leaders act as designers who spotlight and celebrate organic growth Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:18) The Westergaard Code and guiding attention (03:53) Understanding the two systems of attention (06:49) Attentional health and the blueprint for flourishing (09:11) Creating connective energy and mattering (13:28) Why we are terrible at predicting social joy (18:54) Designing community through the longest lunch in Paris (23:13) Leadership as a design function and the power of small groups (25:31) Practicing patience and spotlighting what works (27:47) Brand that makes Daniel Coyle smile About Daniel Coyle Daniel Coyle is the New York Times bestselling author of The Culture Code, which was named Best Business Book of the Year by Bloomberg, BookPal, and Business Insider. He has served as an advisor to many high-performing organizations, including the Navy SEALs, Microsoft, Google, and the Cleveland Guardians. His extensive body of work includes The Talent Code, The Secret Race, The Little Book of Talent, and Hardball, which was adapted into a major motion picture. In his latest work, Flourish, Coyle draws from rigorous reporting and scientific research to offer a practical blueprint for cultivating a life of belonging, joy, and vitality. What Brand Has Made Daniel Smile Recently? Daniel Coyle recently found himself smiling at Martin Guitars. After acquiring his first one, he was struck by the brand's deep interweaving with the fabric of American music, noting how even the lyrics to the classic song “The Weight” were inspired by the brand's Nazareth, Pennsylvania, roots. For Coyle, the way people care for these instruments and their storied history makes being around the brand feel genuinely good. Resources & Links Connect with Daniel on LinkedIn. Check out his new book, Flourish: The Art of Building Meaning, Joy, and Fulfillment. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A creative vision is only as good as its execution. As the Vice President of Creative at Agency EA, Joanna Badamo leads the teams behind major experiential programs for brands like Samsung, Hilton, and Molson Coors. Joanna joins the show to discuss how to lead creative teams in fast-moving environments and the art of translating high-level brand strategy into physical experiences that actually work. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How software-based companies can create tactile connections with an audience separated by screens The essential building blocks for moving a digital-first brand into a physical environment Why small curated moments are often more impactful than grand spectacles How to leverage AI as a wheel greaser for creative teams rather than an end result The shift from monologue-centered branding to creating multidimensional ecosystems of interaction Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:36) Moving from sports marketing to the experiential side (03:24) Making intangible software brands feel real (05:17) The building blocks of a physical brand presence (08:12) Creating environments that transport and immerse (12:52) Measuring success and collecting strategic data (16:19) Finding creativity within real-world constraints (21:34) AI as an ally and facilitator for creative teams (25:11) A brand that made Joanna smile About Joanna Badamo Joanna Badamo is the Vice President of Creative at Agency EA, where she leads teams responsible for developing creative concepts and digital solutions for major experiential brand programs. With over a decade of experience spanning creative strategy and event account management, she brings a balanced approach to designing experiences for global brands including Samsung, Hilton, and Molson Coors. Her work focuses on the belief that the best brand moments thoughtfully balance high-level vision with functional, real-world execution. What Brand Has Made Joanna Smile Recently? Joanna highlighted the unhinged brilliance of Duolingo, noting how the brand’s "mind sorcery" and relatable TikTok presence create a deep sense of connection and obligation. She also pointed to a clever, cheeky Super Bowl activation by Aldi featuring Lewis Capaldi, which proved that an experience doesn’t need to be over-produced to be special and memorable. Resources & Links Connect with Joanna on LinkedIn. Check out the Agency EA website. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Building a brand is about more than just what happens in the marketplace—it’s about what happens in the hallway. On this episode of On Brand, I’m joined by Josh Block, President of Block Imaging and author of People Matter @ Work, to explore why the health of your internal culture is the ultimate predictor of your brand’s external strength. Josh shares his journey of taking over a family business at 29 and the hard lessons he learned about how “responsible” decisions can fracture trust, and how he ultimately scaled a global organization by operationalizing the belief that people truly matter. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How to identify the small well-intentioned decisions that quietly erode trust before performance slips The difference between unearthing authentic values and picking generic ones off a poster Why the shift from me leadership to we leadership requires the humility to democratize capabilities How to use the laughter test as a rapid diagnostic for the health and safety of your culture The internal work required to move from healthcare business to a mission-driven second chance at life Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:41) Why Culture is the Ultimate Predictor of Brand Strength (02:41) The Erosion of Trust in Well-Intentioned Decisions (04:22) Why Culture Collapses Quietly Long Before Performance (07:34) Moving Beyond Soft Skills to Cultural Systems (09:15) The Shift from Me Leadership to We Leadership (12:46) When Correct Decisions are Culturally Costly (14:52) How to Operationalize Values Without the Posters (16:53) Building Brand from the Inside Out Through Storytelling (22:17) The Laughter Test for Cultural Health (24:30) A Brand That Made the Guest Smile About Josh Block Josh Block is the President of Block Imaging and the author of People Matter @ Work. With nearly three decades of experience, Josh has navigated the complexities of scaling a global organization while maintaining a deep focus on the transformative power of workplace communities. After being handed the presidency of his family’s company at age 29, he learned firsthand how leadership pressure can fracture trust and spent the subsequent years refining a system of transparency and shared ownership. Today, he leads a team dedicated to providing a second chance at life through medical imaging services, proving that organizational growth and human connection are inextricably linked. What Brand Has Made Josh Smile Recently? Josh recently found himself smiling during his buying experience at a Tesla dealership. Comparing the typical dread of a car dealership to a visit to the dentist, he was impressed by the smooth user interface and the high level of service orientation throughout the process. The seamless connection and modern approach to the traditional car-buying journey left a lasting positive impression on him. Resources & Links Connect with Josh on LinkedIn. Check out his book, People Matter @ Work. Learn more about his family business, Block Imaging, where the ideas in the book were forged. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Design is about more than just how something looks—it’s about how it works for the people using it. On this episode of On Brand, I’m joined by Lee Hoddy, Executive Creative Director at Conran Design Group, to discuss how experience-led design can solve complex brand problems. We’ll dive into how he leads multi-disciplinary teams to create meaningful work for global names like Sofitel and AstraZeneca, and why every great brand starts with a deep understanding of human needs, wants, and motivations. What You’ll Learn in This Episode - How to map emotional friction points to find the gold in a brand experience - Why the pursuit of human endeavor is the key to branding functional industries like pharma - The reason storytelling acts as a sticky DNA thread across physical and digital touchpoints - How to conduct a multidisciplinary orchestra by surfacing the ambition in every brief - Why original ideas are the only way to escape the sea of sameness in an AI-driven world Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:22) Getting to the heart of human motivations (02:43) Mapping emotional micro-moments (04:54) Humanizing corporate and functional brands (06:39) Using storytelling as a brand DNA thread (10:53) Leading multidisciplinary creative teams (14:35) Creating the Brief 2.0 (17:31) AI and the currency of original ideas (24:14) A brand that made him smile (27:41) Outro About Lee Hoddy Lee Hoddy is the Executive Creative Director at Conran Design Group, where he is responsible for maintaining creative standards and solving brand problems through experience-led design. With a career spanning decades, Lee has lived through major industry shifts, enabling him to lead diverse teams of designers, strategists, and experience experts like a conducted orchestra. He has spearheaded major rebranding programs for global names such as Sofitel, AstraZeneca, and Bicester Motion, always focusing on the deep understanding of human needs to create meaningful, strategically grounded work. What Brand Has Made Lee Smile Recently? Lee recently found joy in the "Venture Beyond" campaign by Hermes, noting its use of evocative illustrations and artisanal craft that respects the audience's intelligence. He also highlighted Apple’s "Critter Carol" for its charming, deeply human approach to technology, using puppets and physical craft rather than CGI to celebrate creativity. Resources & Links Check out the Conrad Design Group website. Connect with Lee on LinkedIn. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today is a major milestone—Episode 600. My journey behind the mic began in 2012, and since then, this conversation has evolved from simple marketing tactics into the deeper pillars of leadership, communication, and storytelling. To celebrate, I’m flipping the script. I’ve invited my longtime friend and fellow 2012 podcasting pioneer, Mike Gerholdt, to take over the host’s chair. We’re going behind the scenes on everything I’ve learned over 600 episodes—from the origin story and terrestrial radio to the move to full video—to talk about what it really takes to build a podcast brand that lasts. What You’ll Learn in This Episode - Why curiosity is the most important trait for a long-running podcast host - How to pivot your content from marketing tactics to leadership and storytelling - The evolution of media from terrestrial radio to short-form and full-length video - Why every modern brand needs an evangelist to foster two-way conversations - Strategic lessons learned from 13 years and 600 episodes in the podcasting trenches Episode Chapters (00:00) Flipping the Script for Episode 600 (01:29) Introducing Guest Host Mike Gerholdt (02:54) Why Every Brand Needs an Evangelist (05:55) The 2013 Podcasting Pioneers (08:27) The Evolution from The Work Talk Show to On Brand (09:38) Pioneering the Remote Work Conversation (12:45) Standing Out in a Saturated Market (15:33) From Radio Production to Personal Voice (17:21) Why Audio Conveys More Than Text (20:15) Curiosity: The Trait That Drives 600 Episodes (23:46) The Reality of Guest Pitches and PR Intermediaries (27:10) Avoiding the "Game of Dodgeball" with Multiple Guests (30:22) Why Real Conversations Don't Need Prep Calls (33:40) The Leap to Full Video and Short-Form Content (38:15) The "Human Element" in Modern Communication (42:30) Closing Thoughts on the Future of On Brand About Mike Gerholdt Mike Gerholt is the Senior Director of Salesforce Admin Evangelism at Salesforce. He leads a group of world-class Admin Evangelists who are helping Salesforce Admins realize their dreams by being technology leaders and advancing their careers. He’s also the host of the Salesforce Admins podcast and someone I’ve been in the podcasting trenches with since day one. What Brand Has Made Mike Smile Recently? Mike highlighted HelloFresh as the brand that made him smile recently. He noted that the meal delivery service stood out during the pandemic and continues to impress him with small touches of appreciation, clear care in delivery, and a non-intrusive approach that never feels like a "used car salesman" pitch. He described the experience as receiving a "little smile in every box." Resources & Links Check out the Salesforce Admins Podcast. Connect with Mike Gerholdt on LinkedIn and (for fun) Instagram Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ashley Herd, founder of Manager Method and former Head of HR at McKinsey, explains why most managers aren't actually failing—they're just guessing. She breaks down her simple yet powerful three-step framework—pause, consider, and act—to help leaders move past the "speed of the inbox" and start leading with real intention. From handling employee mistakes with empathy to navigating the "octopus and wizard" traps of burnout, Ashley provides practical "real talk" for anyone responsible for the careers and lives of others. What You’ll Learn in This Episode The critical difference between day-to-day management and long-term leadership How to implement the three-step Manager Method of pause, consider, and act Why the “speed of the inbox” is causing manager burnout and how to slow down Practical ways to handle employee mistakes using the “Gigi” perspective How to use human-centric storytelling to build psychological safety on your team Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:51) Management vs Leadership (03:18) The Gap in Manager Training (06:01) The Manager Method Explained (06:39) Step One: The Power of the Pause (09:20) Step Two: Consider Your Response (11:09) Step Three: Acting with Intention (13:36) Avoiding Modern Workplace Burnout (19:16) Storytelling as a Leadership Tool (24:09) Brand That Made Her Smile (26:47) Where to Learn More About Ashley Herd Ashley Herd is the founder of Manager Method and a former Head of HR for McKinsey North America. A LinkedIn Top Voice and top 10 business podcast host, she has trained more than 250,000 managers across various industries. Her background as an employment lawyer for brands like KFC and Yum! Brands informs her practical, "real talk" approach to leadership. She is the author of The Manager Method, where she provides actionable frameworks for leading with confidence and supporting team growth without burnout. What Brand Has Made Ashley Smile Recently? Ashley recently smiled at Chiquita. She loves their banana stickers that claim they are "likely the best snack on earth." As a former marketing lawyer, she appreciated the humorous collaboration between the creative and legal teams to include the word "likely" rather than a definitive claim, showing a brand that doesn't take itself too seriously. Resources & Links Check out the Manager Method website and book. Connect with Ashley Herd on LinkedIn. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Storytelling is easy to talk about—and hard to do well. On this episode of On Brand, I’m joined by John Elbing, Chief Storybuilder Officer at Standpoint, to unpack how his Storybuilding approach helps startups and brands clarify their value, sharpen their pitch, and actually connect—with a framework so effective it’s now a #1 international bestselling book. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why most brands jump to storytelling tactics before they understand the story they should be telling How recognition, perception, and projection shape whether people connect with your brand Why customer standpoint matters more than founder backstory How structure can unlock creativity instead of killing it A simple way leaders can improve their story starting this week Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:15) Why storytelling became a buzzword (02:50) Storytelling vs storybuilding (04:00) Coaching startups to find focus and alignment (07:30) Why the customer—not the founder—is the hero (08:05) Recognition, perception, and projection explained (16:00) Aspirations, problems, and emotional contrast (21:30) One practical fix leaders can make today (24:00) A brand that made John smile About John Elbing John Elbing is the Chief Storybuilder Officer at Standpoint and a leading authority on Business Storytelling for startups and growth-focused organizations. With a background spanning computer science, finance, digital marketing, and entrepreneurship, John has coached more than 150 startups and companies, helping them clarify their value, sharpen their positioning, and win with purpose. He is the creator of Storybuilding, a practical, canvas-based methodology that turns strategy into compelling customer-centered narratives, and the author of Storybuilding, a #1 international bestselling book. John also teaches entrepreneurship and digital transformation and works with incubators, accelerators, and social-impact initiatives worldwide—proving that when story is built right, it drives both growth and good. What Brand Has Made John Smile Recently? John shared the story of Felco, a Swiss company known worldwide for its professional-grade garden shears. What began as a durable tool brand for field workers uncovered a passionate fan base of everyday gardeners—some so devoted they’d tattoo the logo. By recognizing different customer aspirations and building distinct story worlds around them, Felco expanded into new audiences, including children, proving that even the most practical products can build emotional connection when the story is built from the user’s standpoint. Resources & Links Connect with John on LinkedIn. Check out the Standpoint website. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I’ll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices