The Messy Middle
From Once Upon a Planet by Jon Strassner
March 27, 2026 · 48 min · Season 1 · Episode 1
About this episode
Jon Strassner discusses the challenges of operating in the messy middle with industrial designer Brian Graham.
In the season's first episode, Jon Strassner talks with industrial designer Brian Graham. We talk about doing the best we can and learning how to operate in the messy middle, where our expectations of perfection are often left unmet. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
People in this episode
Host: Jon Strassner
Guest: Brian Graham
Topics covered
- industrial design
- expectations
- perfection
- messy middle
- learning
Keywords
- industrial design
- messy middle
- expectations
- perfection
- learning
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