Our Voices Matter Podcast

This is the story of a self-described Mitt Romney Republican who voted for Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, wrote in Paul Ryan, and voted for Donald Trump. Do I have your attention?More so than almost any other conversation I've brought you in the last seven and half years, this one embodies the core mission of Our Voices Matter.I ask that you give my guest permission to speak his truth, and that you have the courage to listen with an open mind. In doing so, my bet is that by the end of our conversation, you will find at least one thing you have in common with him. That is my goal.Terrence Keeley made his mark in the financial world as Managing Director & Global Head of BlackRock, the world's largest asset manager, for more than 12 years.He was a senior financial advisor to the Vatican under Pope Francis; he now runs two financial services firms, Impact Evaluation Lab and 1Point Six; and he's a devout Catholic with seven siblings.Several of them are currently not speaking to him. "How could you have?" is the question now routinely making its way into the family group chat.The estrangement from his sister, Michelle, is hitting him especially hard. Their respective views of the killing of Renée Good has torn them apart. It is one of the reasons Terry wanted to do this podcast interview. To talk about how the political divisions in the country have permeated throughout his family -- and so many other families across our nation. To explore a nuanced conversation about a variety of hot button issues, including how to disagree without demonizing the other person. To let his siblings know how much he loves them -- and help us all remember and reconnect with our shared humanity.Truthfully, it would have been difficult for me to have this conversation a few years ago. I still have lots of room for improvement, but through more than 150 conversations on this podcast, and my work as Co-founder of Civil Dialogues, I'm getting better at doing this.Like anything else, it requires practice. Sometimes we stumble and fall short, but the more we do it, the better we get.At times you will hear each of us struggling to choose our words. And just so you know, nothing has been edited out.This is Terry and Linda wading into the muck and coming out on the other side in one piece.From ICE and immigration to Trump and Pope Leo, no topic was off limits.I urge you to watch or listen to the very end, especially if you are estranged from someone close to you. Michelle, this one's for you.

The eyes of the world are trained on Israel and Gaza like no time in recent memory. The horror of October 7th ignited a firestorm that will reverberate for generations to come. Yet, in the midst of unfathomable pain borne by families on both sides of the Israel Hamas War, there is an ongoing search for pieces of peace. Jewish and Arab Israelis working together toward a shared society. Even now. Especially now. Shared Society When I learned about the work of Givat Haviva, I knew this was a conduit to having a constructive conversation — not so much about the war itself — but the humans who are impacted and simply want peace. Even when it comes in pieces. For the last 74 years, Givat Haviva has brought together Jews and Arabs who live in Israel to work toward a shared society. One that recognizes the dignity and rights of all its citizens, including the 20% of Israelis who are Arab. Michal Sella and Mohammad Darawshe work side by side to make the mission of Givat Haviva a reality. She as CEO of the non-profit, and he as Director of Strategy, together they lead a team of Jewish and Arab Israelis to create the model society they want to live in. With a focus on education, language instruction, culture, and art, their programs bring Arabs and Jews face to face, often for the first time in their lives. Their efforts became exponentially more difficult on October 7th. Doing the Work In Givat Haviva’s October 2023 newsletter, Sella writes: “Together with the insufferable anxiety and loss, it is important for me to call your attention to the emergence of other human traits –compassion, demonstrations of responsibility, and coping. Givat Haviva now faces two major tasks. The first is to help, to the extent possible, civilians and families from the south who were compelled to leave their homes after the most ruthless experiences one can imagine. The second is to do everything in our power to maintain the calm internally in Israel – to protect the rights of all citizens of Israel, and to protect proper relations between Jews and Arabs within the State of Israel.” And that is what they are doing, as they cope with their own feelings of anxiety, anger and uncertainty about the future of their families. It isn’t easy. But Sella and Darawshe remain committed to doing the work. The Road to Peace Disillusioned with Israeli leadership, neither has faith in a top down approach to achieving their goal of a shared society. They are convinced that the road to peace starts from the bottom up — with human to human interaction. So their efforts focus on breaking down barriers and fostering relationships. Talking. Listening. Learning. Engaging with “the other“. I thought long and hard about whether, and how, to have a constructive conversation about this on the podcast. I think I found it. If you are seeking to understand the complexities and impact of what is happening in Israel and Gaza, this episode is for you. If you are seeking a glimmer of hope, this episode is for you. If your tendency is to point fingers at “the other side”, this episode is especially for you. You need to hear this conversation. I invite you to open your mind and join us. www.ourvoicesmatterpodcast.com www.lorellemedia.com This podcast is devoted to empowering us all to better understand each other's differences...one story at a time. Emmy Award-winning journalist, Linda Lorelle, guides guests through insightful, unexpected conversations that reveal our common humanity. This show is not about politics per se; it is about finding a way to reclaim civility in the context of the contentious times in which we live, by sharing our personal and professional stories, in hopes that others might find a glimpse of themselves.