Paint Rest Repeat: Art Business & Artist Marketing with Ros Gervay

In this episode of Paint Rest Repeat, I’m joined by abstract painter Abbie White for a beautiful conversation about art, grief, resilience, family, and learning to trust your own creative voice. Abbie paints on raw canvas using acrylics to create soft, dreamy, watercolour-like works that feel calm, nostalgic and deeply emotional. In this conversation, she shares how painting became a way to process the loss of both her parents, how her mum’s influence continues to shape her work, and how her creative practice helped her move through a challenging season in her family life. We also talk about art fairs, rejection, entering prizes, connecting with collectors, and why artists need to spend less time looking outward and more time looking inward. If you’ve ever felt pressure to rush your style, compare yourself to other artists, or question whether your work is “enough”, this conversation is a gentle reminder to trust your own path. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/blog/creative-process-abbie-white New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Resources & Mentions: Abbie White on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbie_white_art Abbie White’s Website: https://abbiewhiteart.com Join us at Gather: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/gather Leave a question for the podcast https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

What if marketing your art didn’t have to mean becoming louder, pushier or more extroverted than you actually are? In this episode, I’m joined by artist Leah Mariani for a conversation about marketing your art as an introvert. Leah shares her experience of building creative confidence, finding sustainable ways to be visible, and the artist residency in the French countryside that became a major turning point in her work. We talk about what it means to create and share your art in a way that honours your energy, why environment can be so powerful for artists, and how giving yourself space can open up entirely new directions in your practice. If you’ve ever felt like you’re “too quiet” to market your art, this episode is a gentle reminder that you don’t need to become someone else to be seen. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast116 New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Resources & Mentions: Leah Mariani https://www.instagram.com/leahmarianiartspace Leave a question for the podcast https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ In this episode, I’m joined by Australian abstract artist and gallery director Madeline Young for a heartfelt conversation about creativity, resilience, and building a sustainable life in the arts. We talk about the evolution of her art practice, the story behind The Corner Store Gallery, the challenges of gallery life, and why multiple income streams can help artists create more financial stability while keeping their creative practice joyful. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast114 Resources & Mentions: Madi Young https://www.instagram.com/madi_young/ The Corner Store Gallery https://www.instagram.com/cornerstoregallery/ Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Have you ever wondered what galleries are really looking for and whether your art could actually get in? In this episode, Ros sits down with Irene from Aspire Gallery, a family-run gallery with a genuine commitment to supporting emerging artists. Irene pulls back the curtain on how their gallery works, what they look for in artists, and how emerging creatives can build real, lasting relationships with galleries. This is the behind-the-scenes conversation most artists never get to have. Whether you're dreaming of gallery representation or just want to understand how the gallery world works, this episode will give you clarity, confidence, and a clear next step. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast112 Resources & Mentions: Follow Aspire Gallery https://www.instagram.com/aspiregallery Follow Robin Wilson Art https://www.instagram.com/robinwilsonart/ Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ “If more people saw my art, I’d sell more.” It’s one of the most common beliefs artists hold and it sounds completely logical. In this episode, I challenge the idea that more visibility equals more art sales, and talk about why many artists struggle to sell their work even when they’re posting regularly and showing up online. If you’re an artist trying to sell your art and feeling frustrated by inconsistent sales, this episode offers a new way to think about visibility and focus. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast110 Resources & Mentions: Thrive Mastermind program - High-touch coaching for heart-led artists who want more 💗 permissiontopaint.co/thrive Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Is it really possible to make money from your art in 2026 without selling out, chasing trends, or burning out? In this episode, I’m joined by bestselling author and artist coach Miriam Schulman for a real talk on originality, influence, pricing with confidence, and staying true to your creative voice. Whether you’re just starting out or scaling up, this convo will shift how you think about success, art, and what’s actually possible for you. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast108 Resources & Mentions: Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Art for the Heart Growth Hub — Step-by-step support to sell your work, grow your audience, and turn inspiration into income. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/afh Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Why does sharing your work feel so vulnerable even when you want to be seen? In this episode, Ros chats with therapist-turned-coach Anna Holtzman about the nervous system's surprising role in creative confidence. Anna shares how chronic pain and burnout led her to a deeper understanding of fear, and the tools she now uses to help sensitive creatives show up without spiralling. If you’ve ever gone into hiding after hitting post, this conversation will change how you see yourself… and your fear. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast106 Resources & Mentions: Anna’s Free Workshop - Let Yourself Be Seen https://www.annaholtzman.com/beseen Anna’s Podcast - How to Trust Yourself: real, raw chats on fear, creativity and healing https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-trust-yourself-overcome-imposter-syndrome-feel/id1679033028 Anna on Instagram - Connect with Anna and join the visibility conversation https://www.instagram.com/anna_holtzman The Permission to Paint 2026 Planner — Your creative companion for planning a joyful and productive year. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/planner Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Art for the Heart Growth Hub — Step-by-step support to sell your work, grow your audience, and turn inspiration into income. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/afh Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ In this episode, I’m bringing you behind the scenes of my latest art fair experience. This one was a biggie, and it brought up all the feels — from the wins to the wobbles. Whether you’ve done a few shows before or you’re still dreaming about your first exhibition or fair, I’m sharing the real talk on what went well, what I’d do differently, and the mindset shifts that helped me stay grounded. Think of this episode as your insider peek — so you can head into your next event feeling more prepared and maybe even a little excited to rumble! Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast104 Resources & Mentions: Thrive — my mastermind for artists who are ready to take things up a level. Applications are open right now, and you’ll find all the details at permissiontopaint.co/thrive Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources The Permission to Paint 2026 Planner — Your creative companion for planning a joyful and productive year. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/planner Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Ever wondered how artists actually make a living from their art? In this episode, I’m diving into the secret to sustainable income — multiple streams that support both your creativity and your bank account. Whether you’ve sold a few pieces or you’re dreaming of your first sale, you’ll discover how to turn your passion into a thriving art business — without losing your creative spark. Full show notes and links available at https://www.permissiontopaint.co/podcast102 Resources & Mentions: Free Artist Resources - Access the library of free resources to help you grow as an artist. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources Art for the Heart Growth Hub — Step-by-step support to sell your work, grow your audience, and turn inspiration into income. https://www.permissiontopaint.co/afh Connect on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Follow the YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@rosgervayart?sub_confirmation=1 Connect on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rosgervayart Join the free Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity Get weekly art biz tips straight to your inbox: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Leave a review! It helps other artists find the show. https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Ever felt like social media is more treadmill than tool? You’re not alone. In this milestone episode, Ros and Laura unpack the very real phenomenon of social media burnout—why it happens, how to prevent it, and what to do if you’re already there. From chasing algorithms to the pressure of constant content creation, they share both mindset shifts and practical strategies to help you stay visible without losing your joy (or your sanity). Oh, and stick around to the end—because there’s a huge announcement about what’s next for the podcast. What We Cover: What social media burnout really is (and how it’s different from medical burnout) [03:59] Why artists are especially vulnerable—algorithms, visibility fears & content fatigue [06:28] Celebrating small wins to reset your perspective [09:18] Prevention tips: slow & steady posting, batching, building your skills, and using support tools (from VAs to AI) [19:23] Treatment tips: what to do if you’re already burnt out, from taking breaks to lowering the stakes and posting what feels easy Mindset shifts: taking back control and remembering you’re the boss of your art biz STICK AROUND TO THE END OF THE EPISODE to hear about the Big Announcement and get the details on the Paint Rest Repeat Podcast "micro break" Resources & Mentions: Ep 37 – Maggi McDonald: Reels for Artists https://open.spotify.com/episode/37 Ep 68 – How to Sell More Art Without Using Social Media https://open.spotify.com/episode/68 Laura’s IGNITE Creative Wellness Retreat (Vietnam, March 2026): https://laurajaneday.com/retreat Ros’s Sydney Events: St Thomas Art Fair – 25–26 Oct 2025; Sydney Affordable Art Fair – 6–9 Nov 2025, CarriageworksRos’s Gather Artist Networking group: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/gather Prefer to Watch or Listen? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305 Sponsored by: Laura Day: https://www.laurajaneday.com https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/Ros Gervay: https://www.permissiontopaint.co https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart/ Stay Connected: Ros’s Newsletter — get weekly inspiration + practical biz advice here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Laura’s Newsletter — find your creative rhythm + joy here: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news Let Us Shout You Out!Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll shout you out in an upcoming episode. Here’s how 👉 https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ This week, Laura and Ros are joined by the inspiring Kay Hustwaite, a textile and mixed media artist from Ballarat, Victoria, whose work and life are rooted in the healing potential of creativity. Kay shares her powerful story of transformation, from navigating an acquired brain injury to building a joyful, purpose-led art practice and running community workshops that connect, heal and inspire. In this conversation, we talk about: How creativity became a lifeline during recovery (12:40) The role of community, soul sisters, and “believing mirrors” in rebuilding confidence (20:30) The shift from surviving to flourishing and why embracing limitations can still lead to expansion (26:15) Blending art-making with wellbeing advocacy to create meaningful change (30:20) Kay’s upcoming workshops and the projects lighting her up right now (33:45) Kay’s story is a reminder that it is never too late to reinvent yourself, step into your strength, and share your gifts with the world. Connect with Kay: Website: https://kayhustwaiteart.square.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kayhustwaiteart/ Join Kay’s newsletter for workshop updateshttps://kayhustwaiteart.square.site/contact-us Resources & Mentions: The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameronhttps://www.amazon.com/artists-way/s?k=the+artists+way Your Brain on Art by Susan Magsamen and Ivy Rosshttps://www.amazon.com/Your-Brain-Art-Arts-Transform/dp/0593449231 Laura’s Vietnam Art Retreat (2026) — early bird ends this month! https://www.laurajaneday.com/retreat Prefer to Watch or Listen? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305 Sponsored by: Laura Day: https://www.laurajaneday.com https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/ Ros Gervay: https://www.permissiontopaint.co https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Stay Connected: Ros’s Newsletter — get weekly inspiration + practical biz advice here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Laura’s Newsletter — find your creative rhythm + joy here: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news Let Us Shout You Out! Leave us a review and we’ll shout you out in an upcoming episode: Here's how 👉 https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Whether you're brand new to selling your work or you’ve hit some art biz growing pains, this episode reveals the one shift that will fast-track your progress. Ros and Laura share candid stories from the early days of their art businesses, the struggles they faced, and what finally helped them move forward with clarity, confidence, and momentum. Spoiler: it’s not more social media tips, it’s something deeper (and more powerful). Reminder: Laura’s Ignite Art Retreat is now open for early bird bookings: https://laurajaneday.com/retreat Ros’s Thrive Mastermind may still have a spot for you: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/thrive What We Cover: How both Laura and Ros started their art businesses — and what they got wrong (4:35)The trap of doing it all alone (9:05)Why mentorship and community change the game (18:50)The confidence, clarity, and direction that come from finding your people (22:40)Three ways to build real connection and support in your art business (29:00) Resources & Mentions: Ros’s Thrive Mastermind — strategy + support to finish the year strong: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/thrive Laura’s Vietnam Art Retreat (2026) — early bird ends this month! https://www.laurajaneday.com/retreat Prefer to Watch or Listen? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305 Sponsored by: Laura Day: https://www.laurajaneday.com https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/ Ros Gervay: https://www.permissiontopaint.co https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Stay Connected: Ros’s Newsletter — get weekly inspiration + practical biz advice here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Laura’s Newsletter — find your creative rhythm + joy here: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news Let Us Shout You Out! Leave us a review and we’ll shout you out in an upcoming episode: Here's how 👉 https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts

New here? Grab a free resource to get started ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources ⬅️ Ready for more? Find out how we can work together ➡️ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/coaching ⬅️ Feeling off track in your art business? It happens from time to time and let us tell you that you're not alone. This episode is here to help you reset, refocus, and realign your Art Business for the second half of the year. Whether you're feeling creatively blocked, have lost momentum, or just want a strategic moment to check in with your goals, this is your invitation to take a breath and come back to what matters most. Laura and Ros guide you through a powerful mid-year check-in to help you reconnect with your artistic vision, set clear and aligned goals, and map out a practical, soulful plan for moving forward. Part visioning, part planning and focus and most importantly - getting back into flow. What We Cover: Reconnect with your vision: Visualise your next-level artist identity and reignite your creative WHY (03:59) Celebrate your wins: Why honouring progress fuels sustainable growth (06:28) Set aligned goals: Define what success looks like in the next 6 months—personally and professionally (09:18) Plan with purpose: Map out a practical, doable roadmap that reflects your time, energy, and intentions (19:23) If your art biz needs a little reboot, this episode is your mid-year pick-me-up. Tune in and let us know your takeaways from the episode over on our socials. Resources & Mentions: Discover more about Laura’s IGNITE Creative Wellness Retreat in Vietnam. Your chance to step away from your everyday life for a magical week of art and connection with like minded artists just like you so you can return home inspired and uplifted. → https://laurajaneday.com/retreat/ Looking to transform your Art Business? Ros’s VIP mastermind program opens soon — Apply for VIP here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/vipwaitlist Prefer to Watch or Listen? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@paintrestrepeatpodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3XkuZ4KuoUgy3Shu7IpmjN Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/paint-rest-repeat/id1597004305 Sponsored by: Laura Day: https://www.laurajaneday.com https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/ Ros Gervay: https://www.permissiontopaint.co https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart Stay Connected: Want more soulful tips on making money from your art? Ros’s Newsletter — get weekly inspiration + practical biz advice here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/stay-connected Laura’s Newsletter — find your creative rhythm + joy here: https://laura-jane-day.myflodesk.com/studio-news Let Us Shout You Out! Leave us a review and we’ll shout you out in an upcoming episode: Here's how 👉 https://rosgervayart.com/blogs/art-for-the-heart-blog/how-to-leave-a-podcast-review-on-apple-podcasts