Passive Income Pilots

Is your wealth strategy working together or pulling in different directions? Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson unpack the 10-30-30-30 strategy for balancing cash, 401(k)s, real estate, tax benefits, and passive investments. They explain why liquidity, control, and tax strategy all matter, and how short-term rentals, syndications, oil and gas, and self-storage can fit into a pilot’s portfolio. Plus, they preview Passive Income Pilots Live in Las Vegas, a new event focused on financial education, estate planning, due diligence, and community.Show notes:(0:00)  Intro(2:15) Diversifying pilot investments(3:33) The 10-30-30-30 strategy(7:23) Managed money and 401(k)s(9:21) 2026 401(k) limits(12:14) Tax-advantaged real estate(15:06) Short-term rental episodes(16:50) Passive investments and syndications(18:13) Oil and gas tax benefits(26:51) Passive Income Pilots Live(29:52) OutroRelated Episodes: #87 - The Mega Backdoor Roth and How Pilots Can Maximize Retirement Contributions with Timothy Pope#14 - Depreciation Demystified: Cost Segregation and Tax Savings in Real Estate with Toby Mathis#37 - Empowering Insights and Strategies On Short-Term Rentals with Alex Jarbo#41 - Short-Term Rental Strategies To Maximize Your Passive Income with Dan Templin#68 - Cruising to Success: Optimizing Your Short-Term Rentals with Airbnb Insider Daniel Rusteen#110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez FakhouryEvent Mentioned: Passive Income Pilots Live Conference - Location: Las Vegas, Dates: October 8–9.For updates on tickets and details, keep an eye out for the official announcement from Passive Income Pilots.If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you at the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

Could life insurance be a better cash-flow tool than a savings account?Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Rod Zabriskie from Money Insights Group to break down how high cash value whole life insurance can be used as a powerful cash-flow tool for pilots and investors. They cut through the confusion around “infinite banking” and explain how properly structured policies can improve liquidity, reduce friction when investing, and add meaningful long-term returns. This episode walks through real pilot use cases, common mistakes, and why this strategy has become a quiet cornerstone for sophisticated alternative investors.Rod Zabriskie, president of the Money Insights Group, specializes in advanced wealth-building strategies using life insurance as a financial tool. With a pragmatic, education-first approach, Rod helps high-income professionals, especially pilots, understand how to leverage whole life policies for liquidity, tax advantages, and long-term returns.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(0:14) First flight in a J3 Cub(3:50) Why life insurance matters here(4:23) High cash value strategy explained(6:13) Cutting through infinite banking noise(8:06) Investment optimizer vs banking hype(11:09) Setting flexible funding ranges(13:29) Term insurance vs whole life(15:21) Using policy loans to invest(18:40) Why brokers matter for pilots(31:05) How this adds a million dollars(35:01) OutroConnect with Rod:Website: https://moneyinsightsgroup.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW0fBokwg09-2H2kXWK5ZfwRelated Episodes:#47 - Innovative Wealth Strategies: From Life Insurance to Alternative Investing with Christian Allen and Rod Zabriskie#70 - Leveraging Life Insurance for Passive Income with Rod Zabriskie and Blake Brogan#84 - Tax-Free Growth & Infinite Loans: Whole Life Insurance Strategies for High-Earners#122 - How Pilots Use Whole Life Insurance to Fund Investments with Rod ZabriskieIf you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Toby Mathis to unpack one of the most misunderstood topics for high-income pilots: business structure and taxes. They explain when to use sole proprietorships, LLCs, S-corps, and C-corps, how losses and profits flow to your personal return, and why entity choice impacts audit risk and mortgage eligibility. This episode is a practical roadmap for pilots starting side hustles who want to lower taxes, protect assets, and avoid costly mistakes.Toby Mathis is a nationally recognized tax attorney, investor, and educator, best known for simplifying complex tax and asset-protection strategies for entrepreneurs and high-income professionals. He is a founding partner of Anderson Advisors, where he helps clients legally reduce taxes, structure businesses, and protect wealth. In this episode, Toby breaks down entity structures, audit risk, and practical tax strategies pilots can apply when starting or scaling a business.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(0:11) Why entity structure matters(1:40) Side hustles and W-2 tax offsets(3:01) Starting a business vs real estate(6:42) Flow-through Vs. C-corp taxation(8:49) Mortgage qualification pitfalls(11:38) Legitimate expense strategies(15:00) Augusta rule and home office(21:48) Why sole proprietors get audited(28:25) Profit Vs. Loss by entity type(41:20) Schedule C Vs. Schedule E risk(56:14) OutroConnect with Toby Mathis:Website: https://tobymathis.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX5nh607M8hSBLiMB9MgbIQ Books: https://www.amazon.com/Tax-Wise-Business-Ownership-Toby-Mathis/dp/0979786002 Tax Tuesday: https://andersonadvisors.com/tax-tuesdays/If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

What if managing rentals like an institution is the key to higher returns and less stress?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with Matthew Whitaker, founder of Evernest, about scaling property management with systems, data, and AI. From HELOC-driven growth to managing 20,000 homes nationwide, this conversation breaks down why professional operations, fraud prevention, and institutional discipline can transform single-family and small multifamily investing for pilots.Matthew Whitaker is the founder of Evernest, a nationwide property management platform serving over 20,000 rental homes across 50 markets. A former single-family investor who scaled through multiple market cycles, Matthew now focuses on applying institutional systems, data, and AI to professionalize rental operations and reduce friction for real estate investors.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(0:19) Why property management changes everything(1:22) From 30 homes to 20,000 doors(5:03) Using HELOCs to scale real estate(10:32) Why paying off your house isn’t safer(16:23) Inside Evernest’s national platform(18:21) Tenant fraud and underwriting risks(22:12) Why in-house maintenance lowers costs(31:21) AI predicting repairs and NOI(34:10) Institutional systems for small rentals(46:07) How to work with Evernest(47:14) OutroConnect with Matthew Whitaker:Website: https://www.evernest.co/ —If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

Clarity and control for the wealth you’re building. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with asset protection expert Adam Kintigh for his third appearance to break down one of the most misunderstood pieces of a pilot’s financial plan: the revocable living trust. Discover how to structure your trust, avoid probate disasters, protect your heirs from creditors, ensure your wealth goes where you intend, and understand the real difference between revocable and irrevocable trusts. If you've ever wondered how to secure your legacy and prevent costly mistakes, this episode is essential listening for pilots building serious wealth. Adam Kintigh is an asset protection and estate planning expert at Nevada Corporate Headquarters. He builds trusts, LLC structures, and multigenerational plans for high-income earners, including many pilots, helping them safeguard their wealth and protect their families. In this episode, he breaks down revocable trusts, probate pitfalls, creditor risks, and practical estate planning strategies.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(0:34) Why pilots must understand trusts(1:00) Adam returns for his third episode(6:25) Will Vs. Trust explained(8:52) The true cost of probate(10:21) Spendthrift protections for children(13:32) When irrevocable trusts matter(17:41) How to design a wealth roadmap(25:48) Who actually comes after your estate(39:00) How to correctly fund your trust(51:07) Why trust naming protects privacy(55:50) OutroConnect with Adam Kintigh:Email Adam at: adam@nchinc.com and mention Passive Income Pilots to get started Website: https://nchinc.com Episodes Mentioned:1. #114 - Trusts, Taxes & Transfers: What Every Investor Should Know with Amanda Wynalda: https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/114-trusts-taxes-transfers-what-every-investor-should-know-with-amanda-wynalda 2. #119 - LLCs, Trusts, and Bulletproof Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh: https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/119-llcs-trusts-and-bulletproof-asset-protection-with-adam-kintigh 3. #127 - LLCs, Trusts, and K-1s: Smarter Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh: https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/127-llcs-trusts-and-k-1s-smarter-asset-protection-with-adam-kintigh Learn more about: NCH Consultation for Passive Income Pilots Investors: https://calendly.com/nchconsultation/nch-consultation-for-pipp?month=2025-12 —If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/  — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com *Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.

Are you unknowingly passing up five-figure tax savings available right now?Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with oil and gas expert Tim Pawul to reveal why minerals, royalties, and non-operated working interests have become one of the most powerful tools for cash flow and tax strategy. Get ready to understand the real reason hydrocarbons aren’t going anywhere, how minerals function like “underground real estate,” and why non-op wells offer significant first-year tax advantages for high-income earners. Discover how pilots can use this asset class to balance real estate, reduce taxable income, and access institutional-quality deals with transparency and scale.Tim Pawul is the President of Minerals and Royalties Authority, a leading connector, advisor, and investor in the oil and gas minerals space. With over a decade of experience mapping the institutional evolution of minerals, Tim has become one of the industry’s loudest, most trusted voices. He hosts The Minerals and Royalties Podcast, works with institutional and private investors, and brings unmatched insight into minerals, royalties, and non-operated working interests. His deep industry relationships make him a go-to resource for anyone serious about energy investing.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(1:04) Fossil fuel dependence today(2:07) Introducing guest expert Tim Pawul(4:06) How Tim entered the minerals industry(7:02) Why shale changed everything(11:12) How minerals became institutional(19:11) What mineral rights actually are(32:39) How non-op working interests work(44:54) Red flags and due diligence tips(51:32) OutroConnect with Tim Pawul:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-pawul-54aa9526/The Minerals and Royalties Podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-minerals-and-royalties-podcast/id1502759760 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uiMdKFVMq7hWv1EBCDLsI Learn more about: Turbine Capital Iron Horse Energy Fund providing 80-85% tax deduction for 2025:https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8798/Turbine Capital Oil & Gas Tax Benefits eBook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17jUYSuoJGCU2ea4SN6MLgazmp-3LE2Lt/view Terms not explained during the episode: ESG = Environmental, Social Governance. ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance, a set of standards used to evaluate a company's sustainable and ethical practices.AFE = Authorization For Expenditure. A formal document used in the oil and gas industry to outline the detailed cost estimate and approval for a specific project, such as drilling, completion, or reworking a well. It serves as a budget and a project proposal, requiring partner approval before capital is committed and tracking expenditures against the budgeted amount. G&A = General and AdministrativeNAPE Expo: https://registration.expologic.com/registration/types/668F3878-BC35-4659-A750-6491C592938D/3591 NAPE Registration Discount Code: MRA26 to get $75 off—Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com *Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.