121: Part 5/8, Why Clean Devotion & DS Dynamics = Orgasms and Freedom: How to Design a Relationship that Works

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Andrea and Janelle discuss relationship dynamics with Adam and Emily, focusing on intentional love and the balance of dominance and submission.

121: Part 5/8, Why Clean Devotion & DS Dynamics = Orgasms and Freedom: How to Design a Relationship that Works In this episode, Andrea and Janelle sit down with Adam and Emily, partners in their 50s who are crafting love with intention instead of default settings. After marriages, monogamy, and open relating, they've chosen a dynamic they call monogamous with a dominant/submissive current. They speak candidly about unlearning self-sacrifice, dismantling "happy wife, happy life," and replacing conflict avoidance with courageous truth. What if structure, commitment and focus actually led to freedom? What if being with another helped you meet yourself? You'll hear: -About the orgasms that await on the other side of the fire -How to confront geographic challenges with fluidity and ease -The value of an intuitive "fuck yes" policy -About Adam's devotion without self-abandonment -How Emily has reframed "submission" -Why you should "excavate" early and often -------------- We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure. You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real…

People in this episode

Hosts: Andrea, Janelle

Guests: Adam, Emily

Topics covered

• relationship dynamics
• dominant/submissive
• self-discovery
• intimacy
• communication
• freedom in relationships

Keywords

• clean devotion
• orgasms
• self-sacrifice
• happy wife happy life
• courageous truth
• intuitive policy
• submission
• excavate

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