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【聊了什么 The What】 当AI从工具变成武器，人类该如何自处？ 2026年初，Claude被白宫封杀。这成了AI的公共形象的转折点。这件事让我们意识到，AI可能已经悄悄完成了它的成年礼：它不再只是一个技术话题，而是变成了一个政治问题、一个选边站的时刻。 在这期串台节目里，主播一闻和《美轮美换》的主播小华、硅谷投资人磊一起聊了：AI是如何从一个技术问题，变成最烫手的政治问题的。红线到底该由谁来画？当 Super PAC 开始用 AI 的钱打中期选举、当数据中心让红州蓝州的电价一起上涨、当美国公众对 AI 的反感度已经跌穿地板——AI 的“核弹时刻“到底是技术奇点，还是政治奇点？我们也顺便聊了聊中美在这件事上正在经历的两种截然不同的现实。 本期播客录制于4月初。 When AI Goes from Tool to Weapon, how do we find our footing? In early 2026, Claude was blacklisted by the White House. It became a turning point for AI's public image — and a moment that made us realize AI may have quietly come of age. It's no longer just a tech topic; it's a political issue, a moment that demands you pick a side. In this crossover episode, host Yiwen sits down with Xiaohua, host of The American Roulette, and Lei, a Silicon Valley investor, to unpack how AI went from a technical question to the most politically charged issue of the moment. Who gets to draw the red lines? When Super PACs start spending AI money to swing the midterms, when data centers push up electricity bills across red and blue states alike, when American public sentiment toward AI has fallen through the floor — is AI's "nuclear moment" a technological singularity, or a political one? We also get into the two starkly different realities the U.S. and China are living through on this front. Recorded in early April. 【时间轴 The When】 03:06 Anthropic与五角大楼撕破脸：AI政治化的转折点 04:48 两条红线：大规模监控与全自主武器 07:41 立法真空下，商业公司被迫当仲裁者 10:33 硅谷政治转向与员工抗议的复活 14:33 Anthropic的商业账本：合同不如公众形象值钱 17:08 Dario vs Sam Altman：同一天两种结局 24:05 Super PAC对AI监管的冲突 30:30 AI好感度比ICE还低 32:35 中美两种现实：小龙虾与"温水煮青蛙" 38:19 数据中心、电价与NIMBY：AI恐惧的具象化 43:21 如果AI创造所有GDP，普通人还有筹码吗？ 50:30 Bernie Sanders的Claude视频与左派的AI叙事 53:43 Token出海：中美AI的两种工业体系 03:06 Anthropic vs. the Pentagon: The Turning Point of AI's Politicization 04:48 Two Red Lines: Mass Surveillance and Fully Autonomous Weapons 07:41 In a Legislative Vacuum, Companies Are Forced to Arbitrate 10:33 Silicon Valley's Political Shift and the Return of Employee Protest 14:33 Anthropic's Business Math: Public Image Beats Government Contracts 17:08 Dario vs. Sam Altman: Two Outcomes on the Same Day 24:05 Super PACs Go to War Over AI Regulation 30:30 AI Polls Worse Than ICE 32:35 Two Realities: OpenClaw and the Slow-Boiling Frog 38:19 Data Centers, Electric Bills, and NIMBY: Where AI Fear Gets Real 43:21 If AI Creates All the GDP, What Leverage Do Ordinary People Have? 50:30 Bernie Sanders' Claude Video and the Left's AI Narrative 53:43 Tokens Go Global: Two Industrial Systems for AI 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 小华：媒体人 Lei：风险投资人 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么 The What】 洋抖难民入住小红书一年之后，美国年轻人又整上新活，想直接变成中国人了？从喝热水、学中文，到穿唐装、追中国短剧，越来越多美国年轻人开始说自己正处在 “a very Chinese time of my life”。这个被称作Chinamaxxing的网络趋势，是文化认同的转变，还是一场抽象时代的玩梗狂欢？在这期播客里，我们拆解了这个趋势的来源和传播，以及它背后的反叛情绪。 当中国从被高度符号化的他者，变成好玩、无厘头、被重新想象的文化标签，这种变化意味着什么？作为中国人，看着大家突然想成为我们，又是一种怎样复杂的感受？和我们一起，聊聊互联网时代的中国高光时刻。 A year after the so-called “TikTok refugees” moved into Xiaohongshu, American internet culture has found a new twist — this time, young Americans want to “become Chinese.” From drinking hot water and learning Mandarin on Duolingo to wearing the Adidas Tang jackets and binge-watching Chinese dramas, more and more are saying they are living through “a very Chinese time of my life.” This online trend, known as Chinamaxxing, raises a question: is this a genuine shift in cultural identity, or just another wave of absurdist internet play? In this episode, we unpack where the trend came from, how it spread, and the rebellious energy behind it. As China shifts from a highly politicized “other” to something playful, ironic, and newly reimagined online, what does that change really mean? And as Chinese people, how do we feel watching others suddenly want to “become us”? Proud, annoyed, amused — or something more complicated? Join us as we explore this internet-age Chinese high-glow moment. 【时间轴 The When】 03:18 什么是China Maxxing？ 06:47 喝热水、穿阿迪达斯“Tang”，就是中国人吗？ 10:22 ABC vs白人网友玩梗，两种变中国逻辑 18:31 从雪花飘飘到Tina，误解与再创作中出圈的中国meme 23:12 反叛父辈叙事，美国年轻人的公开声明 27:48 线上文化与现实认知的分野 36:44 奶茶、Temu、DeepSeek：中国元素已经渗透日常生活 41:03 文化输出还是文化扁平化？ 45:27 作为中国人，我们的感受是骄傲、不爽还是荒谬？ 49:58 当梗进入主流语境之后会发生什么？、 03:18 What’s Chinamaxxing? 06:47 Does Drinking Hot Water and Wearing Adidas Jackets Make You Chinese? 10:22 ABCs vs. Young Americans: Two Different Logics of “Becoming Chinese” 18:31 From Xue Hua Piao Piao to Tina: How Chinese Memes Go Viral Through Misinterpretation and Remix 23:12 Rebellion Against the Parent Generation by Young Americans 27:48 The Divide Between Internet Culture and Real-World Perception 36:44 Boba, Temu, DeepSeek: Chinese Elements in Everyday American Life 41:03 Cultural Influence or Cultural Flattening? 45:27 As Chinese, Do We Feel Proud, Annoyed, or Amused? 49:58 What Happens When the Meme Enters the Mainstream? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 WIRED: Why Everyone Is Suddenly in a ‘Very Chinese Time’ in Their Lives 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么 The What】 从扫腿舞到“宝宝上车啦”，从《万物生》到《溯》，最近只要刷过短视频，基本都被这几首团播神曲洗脑过。和传统的单人直播不一样，团播把帅哥美女放在同一个画面里，一起跳舞、互动、PK，更像一档随时在直播的偶像综艺。 从这期节目开始，我们想要和大家多聊聊我们三个共同关注到的互联网现象。第一次尝试，就从团播为什么这么火聊起。主播怎么被训练和安排，观众为什么愿意持续打赏，平台规则又在其中起到了什么作用？我们也会聊到团播和日韩偶像选秀之间的相似之处，以及“养成系”粉丝关系在直播间里是怎么被放大的。通过团播，或许我们能看到的是，在经济下行、注意力经济当道的大背景下，亲密感和陪伴感是否被赋予了新的意义。 From leg-sweep dances to catchphrases like “Baby, hop on,” and from All Things Grow to Backflow (N.B. all of these are too Chinese to translate), anyone who’s scrolled through short-video apps lately has likely had these group-streaming hits stuck in their head. Unlike traditional solo livestreams, group streaming features multiple attractive hosts in the same frame—dancing together, interacting, and competing in real-time—feeling more like an idol variety show that never goes off air. With this episode, we’re starting a new series where the three of us talk through internet phenomena we’ve all been noticing. For our first try, we’re diving into why group streaming has taken off so quickly. We look at how hosts are trained and managed, why viewers keep tipping and voting, and how platform rules shape these behaviors. We also unpack the similarities between group streaming and Japanese and Korean idol survival shows, and how “idol-training” style fan relationships are amplified inside livestreams. Through the lens of group streaming, we explore how intimacy and companionship are being redefined in an era of economic pressure and attention-driven platforms. 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:31 团播初体验？从奇观化视角看待新兴网络文化 00:07:53 团播的吸引力源泉：表演美学与竞争关系 00:13:22 从元气萌妹到性感欲姐，满足受众投射需求 00:16:47 看不见的场控：制作人角色与权力分配的奇妙结构 00:19:00 从选秀到团播：审美降级还是交互升级？ 00:26:30 团播与偶像产业的连接：日韩偶像大不同 00:31:57 团播如何撕去偶像养成的最后一层遮羞布 00:39:04 团播的软色情属性与“救风尘” 00:45:32 从亚文化到主流，团播如何融入主流娱乐产业？ 00:02:31 First time with Group Streaming: Viewing an Emerging Online Culture as Spectacle 00:07:53 What Makes Group Streaming So Addictive: Performance Aesthetics and Built-In Competition 00:13:22 From Cute and Bubbly to Bold and Sexy: Fulfilling Audience Fantasies and Projections 00:16:47 The Invisible Hands Behind the Scenes: Producers, Control, and Power Dynamics 00:19:00 From Idol Survival Shows to Group Streaming: A Step Down in Taste or an Upgrade in Interaction 00:26:30 Group Streaming and the Idol Industry: How It Differs from K-Pop and J-Pop 00:31:57 How Group Streaming Strips Away the Last Layer of Idol-Making Illusions 00:39:04 The Soft-Porn Undertones of Group Streaming and the “Savior” Narrative 00:45:32 From Subculture to the Mainstream: How Group Streaming Is Becoming Part of the Entertainment Industry 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 澎湃新闻：有人看团播花120万元，阿姨团爷爷团都来了，团播进入“群魔乱舞”时代 36氪：从「扫腿」到「上车」，团播火了几支舞 欠薪、擦边、违约金，困在“团播”里的年轻人 我在卡卡团播间嗑CP：3000万打赏一个月BE 多个头部团解散，团播进入调整期？ 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么 The What】 他是 1997 年出生的硅谷新贵，28 岁就坐上了 Meta 首席 AI 官的位置。Alexandr Wang 从 MIT 辍学创业，到打造独角兽 Scale AI，一路高歌猛进。但相比履历，他的性格更耐人寻味：既是奥赛极客，又是派对常客；他不仅在硅谷的人脉网络中游刃有余，还在更为传统、精英的华盛顿为公司争取来了国防合同。同时，他也提出了争议极大的MEI（能力、卓越、智慧）招聘原则——这究竟是出于真心，还是精心的权力游戏？ 本期，我们请到了Scale AI早期员工小蒋，透过第一手经历，聊聊这位“机会主义者”如何在极客与政客之间切换，在硅谷风口中找到属于自己的位置。 更正：节目中提到Meta Superintelligence Labs更名为TBD Lab，根据最新报道，TBD Lab是Meta Superintelligence Labs的一个部门 He is a rising star of Silicon Valley, born in 1997 and already serving as Meta’s Chief AI Officer at just 28. From dropping out of MIT to founding the unicorn Scale AI, Alexandr Wang’s ascent has been nothing short of meteoric. But beyond the dazzling résumé, his personality is far more intriguing: both an Olympiad geek and a party regular; equally adept at navigating Silicon Valley’s social networks and lobbying the more traditional, elite circles of Washington to secure defense contracts. He also introduced the highly controversial MEI (Merit, Excellence, Intelligence) hiring principle—was this a genuine belief, or a calculated power play? In this episode, we’re joined by Xiao Jiang, an early employee of Scale AI, who shares first-hand stories about how this “opportunist” moves fluidly between geeks and politicians, carving out his place at the very heart of Silicon Valley’s AI boom. Correction: The program mentioned that Meta Superintelligence Labs was renamed to TBD Lab. According to the latest reports, TBD Lab is a division of Meta Superintelligence Labs. 【购票链接 The Link】 Destination Undefined — 新戏胞剧团 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:44 – 谁是Alexandr Wang 00:04:10 – Meta收购Scale股份与AI人才大战 00:07:33 – Alex作为二代华人移民的早年经历 00:09:18 – 从MIT辍学到加入YC及创业 00:12:23 – 早期员工爆料：对Alex的初印象和面试风格 00:26:11 – 数据标注的难度与护城河 00:31:31 – 劳工争议与运营挑战 00:37:11 – Alex Wang与Sam Altman的关系 00:40:52 – 转向国防与政治姿态 00:50:45 – DEI vs. MEI 争议 00:57:12 – Alex与扎克伯格的关系 01:03:09 – Super Intelligence Lab未来将会如何？ 00:02:44 – Who is Alexandr Wang 00:04:10 – Meta’s acquisition of Scale shares and the AI talent war 00:07:33 – Alex’s early years as a second-generation Chinese immigrant 00:09:18 – From dropping out of MIT to joining YC and starting a company 00:12:23 – Early employee insights: first impressions of Alex and his interview style 00:26:11 – The difficulty and moat of data labeling 00:31:31 – Labor disputes and operational challenges 00:37:11 – Alexandr Wang’s relationship with Sam Altman 00:40:52 – Shift toward defense and political positioning 00:50:45 – The DEI vs. MEI controversy 00:57:12 – Alex and Mark Zuckerberg’s relationship 01:03:09 – What’s next for the Super Intelligence Lab? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 本期嘉宾： 小蒋：人工智能从业者，Scale AI早期员工 【拓展链接 The Links】 The Information：《名声、争议与财富：亿万富翁 Alexandr Wang 硅谷崛起全记录》 - Fortune：《走近 Alexandr Wang 的崛起与 Meta 斥资 140 亿美元的豪赌》 Forbes：《22 岁创始人如何把 Scale AI 打造成数十亿美元企业》 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么 The What】 在这期节目中，新新人类探讨了硅谷文化的右转现象，重点关注了一个显著征兆："恶德信号"。 如果说 Virtue Signaling 是将"政治正确"公开展示，并在硅谷的右转浪潮中遭到反噬，那么 Vice Signaling ——恶德信号—— 则是高举"我不善良，但真实"的旗帜。在加速主义笼罩下的硅谷，"理性崇拜"、恶德展示和"赛博雄性"已成为主流文化。节目通过分析特朗普、马斯克、Mark Zuckerberg 的 bad-boy makeover，Bryan Johnson刻意营造的"吸血鬼"式的biohacking，以及基因编辑狂人贺建奎在X平台的表演，深入解读了当代硅谷的时代情绪。另外和大家说一句：这期节目是六月份录制的，很多事件都经历了变化，这些变化也在默默证实这期节目当中我们讨论到的"恶德信号"的现象。 In this episode, Pixel Perfect discusses Silicon Valley's rightward cultural shift, focusing on a notable phenomenon: "vice signaling." While virtue signaling is about publicly displaying "political correctness" - which has faced backlash amid Silicon Valley's rightward wave - vice signaling raises the banner of "I'm not virtuous, but I'm authentic." Under the shadow of effective accelerationism (e/acc), Silicon Valley's mainstream culture has become dominated by rationality worship, vice signaling, and cyber masculinity. The show provides an in-depth analysis of the contemporary Silicon Valley zeitgeist through examining Trump, Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg's bad-boy makeover, Bryan Johnson's deliberately cultivated "vampire-like" biohacking, and gene-editing maverick He Jiankui's performances on X platform. 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:39 主播抛出 Vice Signaling 概念 00:19:47 Mark Zuckerberg：从书呆子程序员到金链子的 180° 转弯 00:22:08 Bryan Johnson：吸血鬼式长生实验与 “Don’t Die” 哲学 00:28:14 雄性文化 & 贺建奎：当疯狂科学家遇上社媒表演，贺建奎 X 自导 “反派叙事” 00:50:02 Peter Thiel: Vice Signaling 投资教父现身 01:09:46 旧金山那些充满黑话的广告牌：恶德展示的平台、只跟 AI 圈内人说话 01:14:25 有效加速主义的乌托邦 00:02:39 Hosts introduce the concept of Vice Signaling 00:19:47 Mark Zuckerberg: A 180° turn from nerdy programmer to gold chain wearer 00:22:08 Bryan Johnson: Vampire-like longevity experiments and the "Don't Die" philosophy 00:28:14 Masculinity Culture & He Jiankui: When mad scientists meet social media performance, He Jiankui's self-directed "villain narrative" 00:50:02 Peter Thiel: The godfather of Vice Signaling appears 01:09:46 San Francisco's cryptic billboards: A platform for displaying vices, speaking only to AI insiders 01:14:25 The utopia of effective accelerationism 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 Meet Cathy Tie, Bride of “China’s Frankenstein”: The creator of CRISPR babies is flirting again with infamy, this time through a mysterious alliance with an Internet-savvy entrepreneur. The Wink from Tech Billboards: From Elizabeth Holmes's haunting return to AI-jargon and vice-signaling, Bay Area billboards have become a coded language for a tech world in flux Genes for Memes: He Jiankui and gene editing fantasies 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么 The What】 本期节目迎来了特邀嘉宾——在第一线深入报道多家中资工厂出海故事的记者 Viola Zhou。这次，她刚刚从密歇根小镇Big Rapids回来，探访争议漩涡中的国轩高科（Gotion）电池厂。这个偏僻保守的小镇如何被一座中国电池厂搅动？为什么反对声浪不绝于耳，厂长却受到州政府热情接待？工厂管理者、工人、政客和普通居民，又在这场全球制造的再分配中扮演着什么角色？除了Gotion之外，Viola还分享了她去采访台积电亚利桑那工厂，以及富士康印度工厂的所见所闻。 我们从特朗普最新的关税政策谈起，一路聊到中美制造业从双向奔赴走向理想幻灭的故事。美国的“再工业化”离不开中国制造业的反向输出，更是一场效率与价值观的拔河。我们也聊到了这背后美国对“中国效率”的矛盾心理：一边想要复制，一边又排斥它背后的代价。在“Made in America”与“Built by China”的夹缝之间，工厂成了一种文化意象——它既承载希望，也埋藏幻觉。 This episode features special guest Viola Zhou, a journalist who’s spent years reporting from the frontlines of Chinese factories going global. Fresh off a trip to Big Rapids, Michigan, she shares what she saw at the center of the Gotion battery plant controversy. How did a small conservative town become a geopolitical flashpoint? Why is factory exec Chuck Thelen eating a battery on camera? Who are the “No Gos” protesting the plant—and why are state officials embracing it? From managers to residents, we unpack the roles each plays in this global industrial drama. Viola also reflects on her visits to TSMC’s Arizona plants and Foxconn’s factories in India. Our conversation begins with Trump’s latest tariffs and traces the fading myth of a U.S.–China manufacturing renaissance. America’s “reindustrialization” increasingly relies on Chinese factories setting up shop on U.S. soil—caught in a deeper tug-of-war between efficiency and values. Somewhere between “Made in America” and “Built by China,” the factory has become a cultural battleground, loaded with both promise and illusion. 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:16 – 吐槽特朗普的关税政策 00:08:44 – 美国制造业怎么了？ 00:13:04 – 初识国轩高科 00:19:11 – 美国高管Chuck Thelen“吃电池”名场面背后的故事 00:26:32 – Big Rapids的人文和自然环境 00:32:08 – 国轩高科在伊利诺伊的另外一个工厂 00:32:51 – 文化交融的趣事：《美国工厂》纪录片，年会和厕所风水 00:39:36 – 台积电亚利桑那工厂中的工作风格冲突 00:46:51 – 印度富士康工厂中的磨合，与20年前深圳的遥相呼应 00:51:35 – 综合这些见闻，美国制造到底靠谱吗？ 00:57:51 – 工厂作为一种文化想象：卓别林，精神小伙，到东华金龙 01:03:06 – 美国科技界对中国的嫉妒和效率迷恋 01:04:37 – 全球化幻梦的破灭和对制造业的其他展望 00:02:16 – Ranting About Trump’s Tariff Policies 00:08:44 – What Happened to American Manufacturing? 00:13:04 – First Encounter with Gotion 00:19:11 – The Story Behind Chuck Thelen’s “Battery-Eating” Moment 00:26:32 – Life and Landscape in Big Rapids 00:32:08 – Gotion’s Other Factory in Illinois 00:32:51 – Cultural Clashes and Funny Moments: American Factory, Annual Parties, and Bathrooms Feng Shui 00:39:36 – Work Culture Clashes at TSMC’s Arizona Plant 00:46:51 – Foxconn in India: Culture Shock Echoing Shenzhen Two Decades Ago 00:51:35 – After All This, Is “Made in America” Still a Real Thing? 00:57:51 – The Factory as Cultural Metaphor: From Chaplin to TikTok 01:03:06 – China Envy in Silicon Valley: The Myth of Efficiency 01:04:37 – The Collapse of the Globalization Dream and Rethinking Manufacturing Futures 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 Viola: 一个徘徊在工厂门口的工厂记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 一家中国电池厂如何引发密歇根州小镇的政治崩溃 – Viola Zhou 富士康在印度生产 iPhone 的艰难历程 – Viola Zhou and Nilesh Christopher 台积电在美国沙漠的惨败 – Viola Zhou 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【购票链接 The Link】 Mayday 五月天 回到那一天 25週年巡迴演唱會 【聊了什么 The What】 老司机有多喜欢开车，新手司机就有多头疼，然而在人工智能时代，这些考量好像都要翻篇了。这一期新新人类播客，我们聊了聊自动驾驶，从Waymo在旧金山停车场半夜鸣笛开会，到Cruise的高楼起了又塌，自动驾驶从科幻照进现实的路比过山车还要此起彼伏。 这一期主播安蕤请假，代班的嘉宾是曾在某自动驾驶企业工作过的托尼。托尼给我们分享了他的行业内部视角和丰富的无人驾驶出租车乘坐经验，最关键的是，他提出来一个至关重要的问题： 为什么人类司机可以毫无心理负担地别车“苕萝卜”，是人性的扭曲还是道德的沦丧？ Some people love driving; others find it a nightmare. But in the age of AI, that whole debate might soon be irrelevant. In this episode of Pixel Perfect, we dive into the world of autonomous driving. From Waymo’s cars honking at each other in a San Francisco parking lot at midnight to Cruise’s meteoric rise and equally dramatic crash, the journey of autonomous driving tech has been nothing short of a rollercoaster. Our usual host, Anrui, is on leave this episode, so stepping in is guest host Tony, who has firsthand experience working at a self-driving company. Not only does he bring an insider’s perspective and a wealth of robotaxi ride stories, but he also asks the million-dollar question: Why do human drivers feel zero guilt when aggressively cutting off robotaxis on the road? 【时间轴 The When】 06:38 在美国坐无人车是为了体验新奇感而付费 20:15 自动驾驶开车太有素质了，人类司机比不了 30:03 硅谷明星 Cruise: 飞得有多高摔得就有多惨 43:54 无人车应该配备远程操控安全员吗？中美两国有不同的态度 49:02 特斯拉FSD体验越来越顺滑了，但司机还是不能分心 59:36 人工智能技术的标志性应用是无人驾驶还是 ChatGPT 06:38 Paying a premium for experiencing the future 20:15 Robotaxies are too polite—human drivers are mean 30:03 The rise and fall of Silicon Valley darling Cruise 43:54 Should self-driving cars have remote safety operators? The US and China disagree. 49:02 Tesla’s FSD is getting smoother; That’s no excuse for drivers to get distracted. 59:36 Self-driving cars vs. ChatGPT, who’s the real future of AI? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 托尼：一个管着8个AI牛马的赛博包工头 【拓展链接 The Links】 嗯，这不是无人驾驶出租车应该被使用的方式…… 《彭博周刊》2022年报道：烧了一千亿美金，自动驾驶还是开进了死胡同 《NYT》2023年报道: Cruise 扩张激进、结果难看 《福布斯》2024年报道：以自动驾驶的里程碑来衡量哪家公司是行业领导者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么The What】 2024年底的美国大选之后，社交媒体平台迎来了一次“大迁徙”：数以百万计的用户离开了X（推特），寻找可能的替代产品。在这个过程中，一个叫做Bluesky（蓝天）的平台脱颖而出，一时间吸引了大量新用户和外界的关注。 Bluesky到底是一个什么样的平台，和推特有什么相似和不同之处？去中心化是否真能解决平台治理的困境？在社交媒体日益碎片化的今天，一个统一的公共对话空间还有可能存在吗？在本期节目中，我们深入分析了以Bluesky和Threads为首的新兴文字社交平台，讨论了各自的使用体验，以及那个所有人最关注的问题：推特能够被取代吗？ After the 2024 U.S. elections, social media witnessed a "mass migration" as millions of users left X (formerly Twitter) in search of alternative platforms. Amid this shift, a platform called Bluesky emerged, quickly drawing a surge of new users and external attention. What exactly is Bluesky, and how does it compare to Twitter in terms of similarities and differences? Can decentralization genuinely solve the governance challenges of these platforms? In an era of increasingly fragmented social media, is a unified public discourse space still possible? In this episode, we delve into emerging text-based social platforms like Bluesky and Threads, discussing their user experiences and addressing the most pressing question on everyone's mind: Can Twitter be replaced? 【时间轴 The When】 00:01:51 大选后的社交媒体大迁徙 00:07:11 2023年社交媒体的百花齐放与洗牌 00:14:10 Bluesky的用户增长奇迹 00:49:42 Threads的数据与实际使用感受的差距 01:09:01 谁能真正取代推特？核心用户的重要性 00:01:51 The Post-Election Social Media Migration 00:07:11 The Proliferation and Shake-Up of Social Media in 2023 00:14:10 Bluesky’s Remarkable User Growth 00:49:42 The Gap Between Threads’ Data and Actual User Experience 01:09:01 Who Can Truly Replace Twitter? The Importance of Core Users 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 The Vergecast: Bluesky’s quest to be the next Twitter On with Kara Swisher: Leaving X? Where Next? On Bluesky, Threads and the “Fediverse” The Verge: Federation is the future of social media, says Bluesky CEO Jay Graber MIT Technology Review: Why Threads is Suddenly Popular in Taiwan 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么The What】 这一期节目里，两位从小看网文长大的主播马修和一闻终于有机会交流他们当年痴迷网文的故事。从男频到女频，唐家三少到水千丞，沧月到郭敬明，晋江到知乎，马修和一闻给严肃文学爱好者安蕤一点点科普网文的前世今生，最后安蕤才意识到她其实也看过不少网文，只不过是以纸质书的形式。 让我们没想到的是，当年专属于年轻人的 guilty pleasure 竟然一步步发展成了价值千亿的文化产业，原本的 txt 文件和文字中的人物变成了现在全球大火的电视剧和一线明星，我们的消费方式也从白嫖变成付费，单章购买变成付费订阅，结果又被互联网大厂带回免费阅读时代。到了今天，没有几个人能逃过网文的文化影响，网文不再是只配在被窝里看的小众爱好了，那它算不算完成了对严肃文学的复仇？ In this episode, Matthew and Yiwen finally got the chance to exchange their stories of webnovel obsession. We gave Anrui, a fan of serious literature, a crash course on the past and future of webnovels—genres, top authors, online platforms—only for Anrui to realize that she has, indeed, read webnovels too. The development trajectory of webnovels has exceeded our wildest imagination. It grew from a guilty pleasure exclusive to young people to a cultural industry worth billions of dollars. What was once .txt files and the characters within them have now transformed into globally popular TV shows and A-list celebrities. Our consumption habits have also evolved from reading for free to paying, from single-chapter purchases to subscription models; now, big techs have brought us back to the era of free reading. Today, few can escape the cultural influence of webnovels. It’s no longer just a niche hobby—so has it, in a sense, taken its revenge on serious literature? 【时间轴 The When】 01:45 聊聊当年在被窝里看小说的日子 07:20 网文入门指南，男频、女频、耽美、凡人流这些都是什么 17:12 爽感与羞耻感：为什么我们觉得网文上不了台面？ 21:54 网文率先开发出健康的内容付费生态 36:06 万物皆可网文：Lofter、最小说、甚至知乎？！ 48:35 男读者和女读者眼里不同的耽美文 01:01:55 火遍全球的《陈情令》 1:13:24 灵魂之问：网文登上大雅之堂了吗？ 01:45 Who hasn’t read webnovels past bedtime as a teenager 07:20 Webnovel 101: WTH are “nanpin,” “nüpin,” “danmei,” and “fanreliu”? 17:12 The pleasure and shame of a webnovel reader 21:54 How webnovel built a sustainable monetization business model 36:06 Reading webnovels on the most unlikely platforms: Lofter, Top Novel, and Zhihu?! 48:35 Danmei literature in the eyes of men and women 01:01:55 The unstoppable success of The Untamed 01:13:24 The million-dollar question: Are webnovels considered highbrow now? 【拓展链接 The Links】 品玩：喊了几年免费的网文，现在又开始要收你钱了 Vox记者Aja Romano对《陈情令》的英文报道 嘻嘻里买家俱乐部：网文世界源远流长，最后依旧起点飞升与晋江水长 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com

【聊了什么The What】 与网络一起长大的我们，终于忍不住要对播客下手了。我们（安蕤、马修和一闻）是三个生活在美国的新生代科技记者。毫不夸张地说，我们的成长经历是和互联网、科技以及社交媒体密不可分的。那么，从古早Windows游戏到人工智能应用，我们与技术的关系经历了什么样的变化？我们又是怎么成为科技记者的？当科技从边缘走向中心，谁能定义科技新闻的边界？在平台重塑媒体格局的今天，如何讲述一个更立体的科技故事？这期节目是我们的自我介绍，也是我们对这档播客的未来的畅想。如果这是你第一次发现我们：欢迎来到新新人类播客，我们是你的网上邻居。 We have a podcast! We—Anrui, Matthew, and Yiwen—are three Gen-Zish tech reporters who grew up in China and now live in the U.S. It’s no exaggeration to say that our formative years were deeply intertwined with the internet, technology, and social media. So, how has our relationship with technology evolved, from early Windows games to AI applications? How did we become tech reporters? As technology shifts from the fringes to the mainstream, who gets to define the boundaries of tech journalism? And in an era where platforms are reshaping the media landscape, how can we tell more multidimensional stories about technology? This episode is our self-introduction and a glimpse into our vision for this podcast. If this is your first time discovering us: welcome to Pixel Perfect. We’re your neighbors on the internet. 【时间轴 The When】 00:03:02 老年Gen Z的互联网记忆：从QQ空间到电脑机房 00:14:51 长大以后成为科技记者的偶然与必然 00:23:31 媒体，社交媒体和新时代信息获取方式的革命性转变 00:31:03 硅谷与科技媒体关系的演变 00:49:30 对中文科技媒体的观察 00:56:37 科技报道的本质：不止于技术本身的思考 01:14:32 播客的愿景：提供不爹的科技观察视角 00:03:02 Memories of the internet as an older Gen Z: From QQ Space to computer labs 00:14:51 The coincidences and inevitabilities of becoming a tech journalist 00:23:31 Media, social media, and the revolutionary changes in how we access information 00:31:03 The evolution of the relationship between Silicon Valley and tech media 00:49:30 Observations on Chinese tech media 00:56:37 The essence of tech reporting: Thoughts beyond the technology itself 01:14:32 The vision for the podcast: Offering a non-condescending perspective on tech observations 【拓展链接 The Links】 Taylor Lorenz – User Mag Interneting with Amanda Hess 人物 - 外卖骑手，困在系统里 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：baihua.pod@gmail.com If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: baihua.pod@gmail.com