Judy Hatswell: The Art of Leadership, Choice Theory and Internal Psychology: What Great Principals Know About Themselves

Judy Hatswell: The Art of Leadership, Choice Theory and Internal Psychology: What Great Principals Know About Themselves

From Professional Learnings NSWPPA Educational Leadership by NSW PPA Professional Learning

March 16, 2026 · 1h 15m · Season 4 · Episode 2

About this episode

Drew Janetzki interviews Judy Hatswell about the essence of great leadership and self-understanding in educational settings.

What makes a great leader and where does that greatness actually come from? In this milestone episode, Drew Janetzki sits down with Judy Hatswell teacher, registered psychologist, leadership consultant, and co-architect of the Art of Leadership program. For 14 years, Judy has stood in front of NSW primary school principals and helped them do the hardest work in leadership: understanding themselves. 2,186 participants. 398 schools. 14 years. This is the story of a program that became t...

People in this episode

Host: Drew Janetzki

Guest: Judy Hatswell

Topics covered

  • leadership
  • self-awareness
  • psychology
  • education
  • professional development

Keywords

  • leadership
  • choice theory
  • internal psychology
  • great principals
  • self-understanding
  • education

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Art of Leadership

Places: NSW, NSW primary school

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