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Raoul Malhotra: Building value through operational real estate
Jun 22, 2026
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nHabit’s Steven Charlton on taking on the Rightmove and Zoopla duopoly
Jun 19, 2026
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#245 TR Property’s Marcus Phayre-Mudge on manager-investor alignment and the NAV problem
May 20, 2026
56m 38s
#244 PropCast: Tom Sleigh - the City of London's planning optimist
May 15, 2026
29m 30s
#243 Propcast: Homes England on the future of housebuilding
May 1, 2026
35m 26s
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| 6/22/26 | ![]() Raoul Malhotra: Building value through operational real estate | In this week's PropCast episode, Andrew Teacher, co-founder of Lauder Teacher, speaks with Raoul Malhotra, founder and CEO of Orka Investments, about building a £700 million real estate manager in just a few years. From partnering with global institutional investors to navigating volatile markets, the discussion explores why operational expertise has become a defining advantage in today's real estate sector. | — | ||||||
| 6/19/26 | ![]() nHabit’s Steven Charlton on taking on the Rightmove and Zoopla duopoly | For two decades, finding somewhere to rent in Britain has meant typing a postcode into Rightmove or Zoopla and scrolling. Steven Charlton thinks that is a thin idea of search, and he has built a platform to prove it. nHabit, which reaches the App Store and Google Play in mid-June, lets renters describe the life they want in plain language and hands back neighbourhoods they would never have thought to type in. “Instead of following the herd to the same old postcodes,” Charlton says, “our aim is to let people search the way they’d plan their perfect holiday with ChatGPT.” The idea has already pulled build-to-rent operators including Quintain and Grainger into conversation, and it arrives as Rightmove, which by its own research takes around 80 per cent of the time British consumers spend on property portals, defends a £1.5 billion class action over the fees it charges agents. Charlton, a former Perkins&Will managing director turned founder, used a wide-ranging PropCast appearance to set out why he believes the two incumbents are too big to fix the thing renters actually struggle with.How the search actually worksThe starting insight is almost embarrassingly simple. “You need to know where you want to live before you can search,” Charlton says, “and how can you know all the areas you could live in when you’ve never been to them all?” nHabit flips that around. A renter draws a boundary by travel time, a method Charlton calls isochrone generation, then tightens it with the things that actually shape a day, a ten-minute walk from a Tube station, good schools nearby, and the app surfaces homes in places the renter had never weighed up.Behind the conversational front end sits Milo, a proprietary large language model wired to a three-dimensional graph database. It is deliberately closed, working only across the roughly 100 datasets nHabit has ingested rather than crawling the open internet, and it answers in whatever language the question is asked. Renters tune five dials, safety, nightlife, amenities, digital connectivity and mobility, to their own priorities. “Everybody’s different,” Charlton says, recalling a South Korean renter who put safety first and still ended up somewhere that felt unsafe for want of the data to choose well, against a group of Australians who cared about nightlife and nothing else.Taking on the incumbentsThe duopoly has barely moved in twenty years, and Charlton is blunt about why. The portals, he argues, cannot rebuild themselves around AI without tearing up the systems they already run on. “This is a ground-up build, not a ChatGPT chatbot wrapper dropped on top of an existing system,” he says, and the two giants are, in his view, simply too big to attempt it. He is just as withering about the wave of look-alike tools claiming an AI edge. “I look at a lot of businesses and think, that’s basically an AI wrapper,” he says. “You’re just piggybacking on somebody else’s technology. It’s essentially a dashboard.” OnTheMarket and others have tried to break the lock before and offered, in his words, alternative versions of the same thing.The £1.5 billion claim against Rightmove, led by former Competition and Markets Authority panel member Jeremy Newman and funded by litigation specialist Innsworth Capital, reaches its certification hearing in November, and Charlton reads it as a market finally losing patience. He has heard the standard objection plenty of times. One national agency told him he would need venture capital, private equity and a £20 million annual marketing budget to land a punch. “Social media has genuinely levelled that playing field,” he counters, pointing to the direct-to-consumer brands that scaled through COVID on a fraction of the old launch cost. “If the industry is genuinely sick of the status quo, people need to actually support an alternative rather than just complain.”What it means for landlords, operators and agentsFor the operators and agents who pay to be seen, the first benefit is cleaner demand. Matching renters to homes on lifestyle and neighbourhood fit produces better-qualified leads and fewer dead-end enquiries, the difference between a showcase and a switchboard. The deeper prize is the data underneath. “Data is the new oil,” Charlton says. nHabit builds anonymised personas from how people behave in the app, whether they own a dog, what they linger on, what they swipe away, and reads the patterns the way Netflix reads viewing. “Why is it that people with dogs are less age-sensitive than people with children?” he asks. “The data might tell us.” Ownership is the point he keeps pressing: with the incumbent platforms, the insight ends up in someone else’s hands.That rewrites the commercial model. Rather than a monthly listing fee, nHabit offers a developer the news that a particular profile of renter was ignoring a location six months ago and is now circling it. Quintain, the Wembley Park operator, grasped the idea at once, Charlton says, and a conversation with the build-to-rent landlord Grainger surfaced something he had missed, that many of its tenants work in the NHS on shift patterns whose travel times look nothing like a nine-to-five. The same logic carries into student housing, where operators such as IQ and Unite hold safety credentials Charlton thinks they undersell, and the recently enacted Renters’ Rights Act only sharpens the appetite for better data.Agents, meanwhile, get a read on roughly twenty renter typologies and on exactly what a prospective tenant is hesitating over. A structural shift sits behind the sell. A year ago, Charlton estimates, about one per cent of an agency’s leads came through tools like ChatGPT or Claude, and he now puts it at seven or eight per cent, noting that those systems crawl websites selectively. “Agents understand they need to get their websites ready for LLMs,” he says, “and we’ve essentially done a lot of that work for them already.” The value spreads wider still, with one of his non-executive directors, who previously led Microsoft’s digital-cities work, pointing to retailers, hospitality and councils as buyers of the same locational insight.From architecture to a blended businessThe route here ran through the top of global architecture. Charlton trained in interior design at Edinburgh College of Art, decided early that he “would rather employ great designers so we could elevate together”, and moved to Dubai to set up the Middle East studio of Pringle Brandon, the commercial-interiors firm the architect Jack Pringle founded with Chris Brandon in 1986. When Pringle, now chair of the RIBA board of trustees, sold the business to Perkins&Will in 2012, Charlton’s remit widened from fitting out offices to winning architecture for the Dubai developers Emaar and Aldar. A country-scale masterplan changed how he saw the work. “It’s about data, understanding what the infrastructure is going to be in ten, twenty, thirty years,” he says, and the conversations that followed, with Siemens and Schneider, planted the idea behind everything since. He became Perkins&Will’s UK managing director in 2017, ran the London studio for four and a half years and left in 2022 to start i/o atelier, named for the binary of input-output and the atelier, a house of artisans, a “blended business” where machine-learning engineers and designers sit side by side.nHabit emerged from that studio almost by accident. Asked to measure the “vibrancy” of the places i/o was designing, the team-built mapping software that scored London neighbourhoods on amenities, green space, transport, gyms and the rest of the texture of daily life, then triangulated those points of interest into a picture of how appealing an area really was. Bolted onto the language model the studio had already built, the engine turned out to do something else entirely, helping people find somewhere to live. ChatGPT launched roughly six months after Charlton founded the studio, and the doubters came round. “Many people clearly went away and thought he’s lost the plot,” he says. “Over time those same people have come back and said, actually, you were just ahead of the game.”Ambition, and what has been builtThe proprietary work, Milo, the isochrone engine and the graph infrastructure beneath them, is where Charlton sees defensible intellectual property and the prospect of patents. Because the infrastructure is built, new markets switch on quickly: Manchester and Liverpool are ready, and the longer horizon is Paris and New York, cities restless enough to reward the model. “Why can’t we be the Airbnb of residential rental?” he asks, noting that most rental apps he meets abroad are stuck serving a single city. Airbnb itself started in San Francisco.nHabit is self-funded and was founded only in April 2025, and the design business is heading the same way, toward helping occupiers procure design rather than only producing it. An adviser put the trajectory back to him, that he is “becoming a tech business that does design rather than a design business that does tech”, a verdict offered with equal parts admiration and unease. The name says as much. nHabit is “inhabit” with the i taken out, a small act of rebuilding from the letters up, which is roughly what its founder has set out to do to the way Britain looks for somewhere to rent. | — | ||||||
| 5/20/26 | ![]() #245 TR Property’s Marcus Phayre-Mudge on manager-investor alignment and the NAV problem✨ | manager-investor alignmentreal estate cycles+3 | Marcus Phayre-Mudge | Thames River CapitalTR Property Investment Trust | — | property recessionreal estate+5 | — | 56m 38s | |
| 5/15/26 | ![]() #244 PropCast: Tom Sleigh - the City of London's planning optimist✨ | urban planningtransportation+4 | Tom Sleigh | City of London Corporation | City of LondonUK | Tom SleighCity of London+5 | — | 29m 30s | |
| 5/1/26 | ![]() #243 Propcast: Homes England on the future of housebuilding✨ | housebuildinggovernment funding+3 | Ed Jezeph | Homes EnglandNational Housing Bank | — | Homes Englandhousebuilding+3 | — | 35m 26s | |
| 4/17/26 | #242 Grainger's Michael Keaveney on Build-to-Rent and a radical fix for social housing✨ | Build-to-Rentsocial housing+3 | Michael Keaveney | Grainger PLCTransport for London | — | Build-to-Rentsocial housing+5 | — | 47m 48s | |
| 3/27/26 | #241 Coastal regen could solve Britain’s New Towns challenge✨ | coastal regenerationurban revitalization+3 | Stuart HarrisDavid Atkinson+1 | MilliganWillmott Dixon | TorbayWeymouth+2 | coastal regenerationurban development+7 | — | 50m 58s | |
| 3/20/26 | #240 Inside SQUARE, Europe’s anti-MIPIM escape in Ibiza✨ | real estateevents+3 | José María Pons | Lauder Teacher | Ibiza | SQUAREMIPIM+4 | — | 30m 12s | |
| 2/27/26 | #239 Ealing Council’s Economic Strategic Director on London's Housing Crisis, nightlife and why growth needs jobs✨ | London's Housing Crisisurban development+4 | Peter George | Ealing CouncilProperty Week | — | housing crisisEaling Council+5 | — | 38m 16s | |
| 2/20/26 | #238 Atrato - Where private capital in real estate can profit and produce social good✨ | real estatesocial housing+4 | Adrian D’Enrico | AtratoSocial Housing REIT+1 | — | real estatesocial housing+6 | — | 26m 26s | |
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| 2/13/26 | #237 Building up, not out - Bloom’s ultra-urban logistics strategy✨ | ultra-urban logisticswarehousing+3 | Davies | BloomProperty Week | — | Bloomultra-urban logistics+4 | — | 31m 32s | |
| 2/6/26 | #236 𝗥𝗲𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝗦𝘁𝗼𝗰𝗸 𝗘𝘅𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 - 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗳𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲✨ | London Stock Exchangereal estate+3 | Lee Coward | Oxford PropertiesProperty Week | London Stock ExchangeEurope+1 | London Stock Exchangereal estate investors+3 | — | 39m 08s | |
| 1/30/26 | #235 Where capital is going next: DTRE on living, life sciences and the power of data✨ | real estatecapital markets+3 | Harry GlatmanMatt Smith | DTRELauder Teacher | — | capital marketsreal estate+3 | — | 33m 56s | |
| 1/21/26 | #234 A soft patch before the upswing? Berenberg’s Andrew Wishart on the UK economy, housing and why rates matter more than politics✨ | UK economyhousing market+3 | Andrew Wishart | BerenbergProperty Week | UK | UK economyhousing+3 | — | 33m 14s | |
| 1/9/26 | #233 War for talent critical to success in hyper-competitive marketplace - Odgers tells PropCast | A tighter fundraising environment, stickier inflation and higher interest rates continue to muffle capital flows but against that backdrop, higher performing companies are those able to attract and retain the best talent, Nick Hammond tells Andrew Teacher. | — | ||||||
| 11/14/25 | #232 NTT Data’s artificial intelligence guru Bill Wilson on separating AI theatrics from real value creation | On this week’s PropCast in partnership with Property Week, Bill Wilson, head of applied artificial intelligence at NTT Data, joins Lauder Teacher’s founding partner Andrew Teacher to explore how AI can help businesses scale by unlocking the untapped value in the real estate sector’s vast datasets. | — | ||||||
| 11/7/25 | #231 John Slade recounts the deals that defined London’s boom years – and why the city always bounces back | In the latest episode of PropCast in partnership with Property Week, hosted by Lauder Teacher co-founder Andrew Teacher, dealmaking veteran John Slade – who has witnessed the London market’s many booms and busts – speaks candidly about timing, client relationships, and why the capital remains the world’s foremost real estate destination. | — | ||||||
| 10/24/25 | #230 Octopus Capital’s Ed Clough on the investment thesis bridging later living and renewable energy | On this week’s PropCast, Octopus Capital’s head of real estate, Ed Clough, joins Lauder Teacher’s founding partner Andrew Teacher to discuss how Octopus is harnessing its cross-sector investment strategy to scale living, care and renewable energy assets across the UK and Europe, while using its strong track record to build trusted partnerships with global investors. | — | ||||||
| 10/17/25 | #229 Melissa Murphy KC's journey from pirate radio to planning | In this week’s PropCast, in partnership with Property Week, Andrew Teacher speaks with Melissa Murphy KC about her unconventional journey from prosecuting pirate radio DJs to becoming one of the UK’s leading planning barristers. Murphy shares insights on affordable housing, compulsory purchase powers, and heritage protection — all while reflecting on how curiosity, conviction and balance have shaped her remarkable career. | — | ||||||
| 10/10/25 | #228 Criterion Capital’s Halima Aziz on transforming the Trocadero into Zedwell’s flagship hotel, redefining affordable hospitality, and building community at the heart of London | This week on The PropCast, in partnership with Property Week, Andrew Teacher, Founder of Lauder Teacher, sits down with Halima Aziz of Criterion Capital. Halima’s journey into hotel real estate has been anything but conventional. Growing up under the watchful eye of Criterion Capital’s founder — and renowned property entrepreneur — Asif Aziz, she gained a first-hand education in the world of real estate long before entering it professionally. | — | ||||||
| 9/18/25 | #227 How John Lewis Partnership and Aberdeen are reshaping housing through a retail-minded focus on service and operations | On the latest episode of PropCast, our co-founder Andrew Teacher is joined by John Lewis Partnership’s Katherine Russell and Anne Breen of Aberdeen Investments to discuss how their partnership to deliver rental homes is creating long-term value for investors and communities alike. | — | ||||||
| 9/12/25 | #226 Bidwells Head of Data, what AI means to property | The latest PropCast, hosted by Andrew Teacher and in partnership with Property Week, features Ben Lee, Head of Data and AI at Bidwells, who explains how generative AI is already changing what ‘knowledge work’ is and what successfully integrating tech looks like in the property industry. | — | ||||||
| 9/5/25 | #225 Colin MacDonald on mastering relationship-driven property – lessons from Singapore | This week’s PropCast, hosted by Andrew Teacher, brings one of Irish real estate’s most forward-thinking and innovative executives, Colin MacDonald. MacDonald, having followed an unconventional path into property, puts forward a compelling investment thesis as well as offering sage wisdom on the dos and don’ts of commercial real estate in an increasingly complex market. | — | ||||||
| 8/8/25 | #224 Weatherbys CEO and Kensington LGPS warns of competing interests | In this week’s PropCast, Marshall, the current chair of the investment committee for the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea’s Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS) – offers a robust, clear-eyed assessment of how pension money should be managed, what’s wrong with government pooling proposals, and why most investors are paying too much in fees. The conversation, led by Andrew Teacher, was direct, illuminating, and refreshingly free from the usual fog of institutional platitudes. | — | ||||||
| 7/25/25 | #223 Bosses scrambling to reassess 2030 net zero targets, warns Hillbreak founder | Where does ESG find itself within real estate today, and does it have a future? This type of grand strategy within the sector is what Jon Lovell, co-founder of Hillbreak, is best placed to guide, given his role as one of the first movers and shakers in the industry to recognise the need for bridging the gap between financiers and the narrative-driving sustainability types.This week’s PropCast, with Andrew Teacher and in partnership with Property Week, seeks to engage with the big questions, ranging from the huge risk and opportunity of stranded assets, the looming deadline for 2030 net zero targets, the skills deficit on both sides of the ESG fence and, perhaps most importantly, the profound implications of the Paris Accord’s 1.5°C goal being effectively dead in the water. | — | ||||||
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